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[Vipar]

Run mine off 13amp socket every night cheap rate. Been doing this for 5 years

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Run mine off 13amp socket every night cheap rate. Been doing this for 5 years

Mine wont fully charge overnight,

 

[Ejaydee]

For those people who charge their EV at home, do you have a dedicated fast charging point? I ask because the layout of my property means it would be devilishly difficult to install one.

I have a 7Kw charger (Polar) on the wall of the house. I tend to plug the car in during daytime (if needed) to get the benefit of "free leccy" from the solar panels on the roof, otherwise it comes off the grid. Just before the charger was 3 years old, it had to be replaced (Chinese built replaced with German built) under warranty. The reason for the replacement was the old unit completely messed up the car's 'brain' which had to be reset and reprogrammed. The new unit has not been any trouble.

 

[Beltie]

Cheshire Cat,

Since we had the house extended to the front of the old garage, the incoming main cable/meter/consumer unit now terminates in what is now effectively the middle of the house. Consequently any cable would have to be brought out through the extension.
I suppose I could, at great expense have the incoming cable diverted.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

What you really need to do is to run a new 32amp ring from wherever your consumer unit ( fuse board) is to the outside wall where your charger may sit
( in simple terms, imagine you are putting a cooker on your drive and you need a fresh circuit)
Of course , your consumer unit may nit be up to this addition without an upgrade

If you are going with a 3 pin only, then a 13amp ring will cost less, but only a short-term solution and charging time is much longer
Depends what type of EV you are looking at and the size of its battery
Happy to help/advise though
The bonus is, my free advice comes with a comprehensive money-back guarantee

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[Wh05apk]

Depending on use a 3 pin plug can be realistic, I am currently charging mine with a 90kw battery with a 3 pin charger, since lock down I am working from home and not travelling as much so can top up each day using surplus solar power for free, and can normally get an extra 30-40 miles each day, topping up if necessary over night using the 7kw charger off peak.

 

[kevenh]

Are home charging stations an optional extra that can be negotiated when choosing an EV company car or privately purchased one?

 

[gus-lopez]

, there is a brilliant long hill which can be coasted down at 50 to 60 mph,

Bloke I used to work with did that all the time in a 5 tonne van. Still does ,slightest slope & wacks it in neutral. sometimes you can run faster

I`m far to impatient, to sit around in Motorway services waiting for a re-charge. My attitude is get in get filled up, pee, and get back on the road. Except when in the `van, then I would be looking for Non Motorway routes with lots of stops and scenery!.

& me. in, fill,pay ,out. I liken it to a pitstop. absolute shortest time possible.

, I am impatient, often on the way to appointments, unlike a petrol or diesel car, there is no need to fill to 100%, so I can stop off somewhere, put on charge, come back after 20 minutes,

If you can wait 20 minutes you aren't impatient.

over 250 miles you would probably save £25 in fuel costs at least, for that, I would sit around for 20 minutes or so.

If you are an employee you aren't paying.If self employed/business the tax man is paying.

Remember the real "driver" for me is that as a company car, its FREE to me with no Inland Revenue charge and it's the company's electric

& to me it is a form of discrimination.

I am fleeced by the tax man by having what is effectively a works vehicle on my drive that I dont need for personal use.

If you could leave it at work then none of that would be payable.

As well as being inordinately cheap to run we get free parking in York car parks and plenty fo free charging round and about. What's not to like?

As above it is discrimination.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Are home charging stations an optional extra that can be negotiated when choosing an EV company car or privately purchased one?

The issue is that the grant for a home charger is for an individual,not the company
It is not just as simple as ticking a box on an option list and is subject to home survey to check eligibility for grant

All do-able if you can garner the will , but the company needs to fully be on-board with the benefits to them

 

[kevenh]

Bloke I used to work with did that all the time in a 5 tonne van. Still does ,slightest slope & wacks it in neutral. sometimes you can run faster

Unless the vehicle isn’t so ancient as to not have any ECU type engine management It is safer AND more fuel efficient to leave the vehicle in gear to coast downhill.
The engine management system will then actually cut fuel delivery to the engine.

In neutral, fuel is used to keep the engine running.

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[SpeedyDux]

I'd be interested in the real range

and the payload - and if it could be wheelchair adapted.

Nowhere to charge it near my parent's house so ideally I would need to be able to do 220 miles up and down hills in the middle of the winter to make it viable.

This might be of interest to you.

Tomorrow I have booked a test drive of the new Honda Jazz hybrid. One consideration is that the magic seat feature would allow a wheelchair to be carried in the back, if or when we get to the stage where Duxette's mum needs a wheelchair. The new Jazz is basically a self-charging EV with the petrol engine used as a generator for the Lithium battery until you reach motorway speed when it will switch to engine drive. The effective range is only limited by the size of the petrol tank but at 60+ mpg it should do 220 miles easily. It is not plug-in.

 

[SpeedyDux]

Unless the vehicle isn’t so ancient as to not have any ECU type engine management It is safer AND more fuel efficient to leave the vehicle in gear to coast downhill.
The engine management system will then actually cut fuel delivery to the engine.

In neutral, fuel is used to keep the engine running.

My dad had a Rover 75 with a "freewheel" knob on the dashboard. My recollection is the Saab 96 may have had a similar feature. 1960s technology for saving petrol. Being re-invented by today's car designers.

 

[Puddleduck]

This might be of interest to you.

Tomorrow I have booked a test drive of the new Honda Jazz hybrid. One consideration is that the magic seat feature would allow a wheelchair to be carried in the back, if or when we get to the stage where Duxette's mum needs a wheelchair. The new Jazz is basically a self-charging EV with the petrol engine used as a generator for the Lithium battery until you reach motorway speed when it will switch to engine drive. The effective range is only limited by the size of the petrol tank but at 60+ mpg it should do 220 miles easily. It is not plug-in.

Yes, of great interest....... but our nearest dealer is over 50 miles away and they don't have one for us to look at Actually they were quite rude, and wouldn't give me any information which has put me off. I know it might be 3 months before we can get out and about (extended shielding after we have both had health issues).

I'd be interested to see how they would manage the ramps and the hoist as I have been told the battery is in the way so they can't be fitted to most of the electric vehicles. (and deployment uses electric which cuts down the range - although I wouldn't think that would have a massive effect).

It always makes me smile when I see the phrase "self charging hybrid". It's a petrol car but the petrol is used in a different way.

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Yes, of great interest....... but our nearest dealer is over 50 miles away and they don't have one for us to look at Actually they were quite rude, and wouldn't give me any information which has put me off. I know it might be 3 months before we can get out and about (extended shielding after we have both had health issues).

I'd be interested to see how they would manage the ramps and the hoist as I have been told the battery is in the way so they can't be fitted to most of the electric vehicles. (and deployment uses electric which cuts down the range - although I wouldn't think that would have a massive effect).

It always makes me smile when I see the phrase "self charging hybrid". It's a petrol car but the petrol is used in a different way.

Its a HYBRID car where the charging is done in a different (to plug in) way

 

[Jev88]

Colleague ordered one of these for a personal car and also had to wait 10 months.

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[gus-lopez]

Unless the vehicle isn’t so ancient as to not have any ECU type engine management It is safer AND more fuel efficient to leave the vehicle in gear to coast downhill.
The engine management system will then actually cut fuel delivery to the engine.

In neutral, fuel is used to keep the engine running.

yes I know that. One of the reasons I gave up working with him, plus his love of pulling away in 2nd .He even does that in his alfa & the new Peugeot c5 he has. Does my head in.

 

[7735]

I certainly think electric cars are the future but don’t be fooled into thinking you are saving the planet the resources and precious earth materials that go into building them far outweigh any “green” benefits.

spongy

 

[Puddleduck]

Its a HYBRID car where the charging is done in a different (to plug in) way

It's still petrol powered though

At home I would prefer one that would plug in so we could make use of our own micro generation systems (solar / wind).

 

[Cheshirecat57]

I certainly think electric cars are the future but don’t be fooled into thinking you are saving the planet the resources and precious earth materials that go into building them far outweigh any “green” benefits.

spongy

Im under ZERO illusion of that

Im in the category that an EV can work for me AND the tax breaks have pushed me over into getting one

Lots of co car users will do the same to boost sales of new EVs

Ergo, there will be plenty of 3or 4 year old ones (in 3 or 4 years) at a lot less than new ones

Challenge will be if the tech has marched on so fast that a 3 year old “only” has 275 mile range

 

[Scotsblood]

Cheshirecat57 may I ask how you are getting on now a few months have passed?
Any words of wisdom or opinion now the initial shine has started to dull!

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[Solwaybuggier]

It's still petrol powered though

At home I would prefer one that would plug in so we could make use of our own micro generation systems (solar / wind).

We‘ve just bought a used Niro Self-charging Hybrid, which we love so far. We’d have loved an e-Niro, but couldn’t begin to justify the expenditure out of our own pocket - are there any used ones around yet? And the PHEV Niro is pretty rare used too. Maybe move to an EV next time we change, though - by which time hopefully there will be more used EVs around with sensible range.
In the meantime, we are at least getting diesel levels of fuel consumption.

 

[bobnick]

I just cannot get excited about leccy cars.
Interesting topic though
Wonder when Mr Exchequer at #11 will come calling on leccy car owners cause as sure as i have a hole in my bottom he will.
Scuse me whilst i go fire my V8 twin turbo M5 up for a listen. On a good day if i take it nice and easy i can get 20 mpg.

 

[joe and sue]

We went electric a year ago, and there is no going back, so smooth, performance is unreal and running costs are peanuts. Rarely need to charge away from home, and so nice always having a "full tank" in the morning, with the car warmed up or cooled down ready to go.

What are you running please.
Can an EV of any type be used as a toad, does anyone have an answer please
Joe

 

[wiljoy]

I just cannot get excited about leccy cars.
Interesting topic though
Wonder when Mr Exchequer at #11 will come calling on leccy car owners cause as sure as i have a hole in my bottom he will.
Scuse me whilst i go fire my V8 twin turbo M5 up for a listen. On a good day if i take it nice and easy i can get 20 mpg.

Snap, the more I hear about electric cars the more I'm keeping away from them. Love your V8. In an earlier life I purchased an ex track car from Janspeed. The sound was unbelievable and just to hear it gave me a fix.
My neighbour works for a large main dealer. They are contacting all customers who have purchased Hybrid cars as they are having unrepairable problems. To temporarily cure the problem they are totally disconnecting the electric part so it will only run on petrol.

 

[chrisgreen]

A genuine question, what happens to the range in winter when you want the heater, heated screens, fan and lights on?

winter range is a lot different from the summer range depending on the temperature you could lose up to 40% of range in the winter.

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[gus-lopez]

Can an EV of any type be used as a toad, does anyone have an answer please

No. On a trailer ,yes.

 

[The Wino]

No. On a trailer ,yes.

I would have thought they must weigh a fair bit more with the battery and motor

 

[gus-lopez]

I would have thought they must weigh a fair bit more with the battery and motor

probably do & it wouldn't be too many vans capable of towing a trailer with that weight on?

 

[Gromett]

winter range is a lot different from the summer range depending on the temperature you could lose up to 40% of range in the winter.

Depending on the car and on if you do the preheat thing while still on charge.

 

[The Lord Squid]

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