Is This Acceptable?

[KD]

Rather large 04 plate Burstner parked near to our car in the Waitrose town centre car park in Christchurch on Saturday. We returned a couple of hours later to find it dumping its grey waste tank :-(. Doesn't seem right to us, but there again we are new to this game.

 

[KD]

Do you know for sure it was grey waste? I’ve had to dump the contents of my plumbing and boiler when I sprung a leak? No doubt if someone saw me they would jump to the same conclusion.

I'm not sure that your plumbing or boiler would include soapy bubbles if they leaked?

 

[Googlebot]

I wouldn’t do it but then again I don’t get worked up about others doing it. It’s only a bit of water with bits in, hardly the end of the world.

Public shaming on forums is an awful way to operate IMO. We never know the full facts so judging is never helpful.

Someone does need to tell them however to wait till it’s dark or raining.

 

[nicholsong]

Rather large 04 plate Burstner parked near to our car in the Waitrose town centre car park in Christchurch on Saturday. We returned a couple of hours later to find it dumping its grey waste tank :-(. Doesn't seem right to us, but there again we are new to this game.

Quite unacceptable in Waitrose CP. Should have gone to Aldi CP for that - after shopping in Waitrose!

 

[gus-lopez]

How should we collect the grey water when washing the car on the drive?

technically illegal in the Uk .ground water contamination .& why petrol stations have to have there own external drainage back to a cleansing system & scrapyards are only legal on totally concrete surfaces with drainage.
Spain was far ahead of the Uk on that and any type of vehicle washing either in the road or even inside your own property is totally illegal & why you will see standalone car washes with nothing else there.

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[Silver-Fox]

scrapyards are only legal on totally concrete surfaces with drainage.

We have a scrappy that operates on nine hard surface.

They empty all fluids in a specific area so maybe that’s how they get around it.

 

[RandallC]

Can’t see all the fuss over any of it really, the myth of carrots and peas killing moterbikers and the world will end because of some soap in the water, it’s all rubbish in my opinion. I get the part about not simply letting it empty across
an area where people would step into it etc, but other than that, let it go.

Ever noticed how the very same water is drained from narrow boats into canals and I bet there’s not Narrowboatfun site running it down. Don’t hurt the fishies, ducks, moorehens etc.
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Isn't the whole point that a little pollution is unlikely to do much if any harm BUT multiply that bit by the many who argue tis only a little, what harm can my little bit (80-90 Litres) of soapy water with grease and bits in do.

A recent visit to a CMC site illustrated this very well. A camper opened the tap and drove off pitch leaving a trail. Two days later the trail was still visible whether rain washed or dry.

(Edit) Aaah quick edit to advise we left the site after the second day so maybe lasted longer

 

[nicholsong]

technically illegal in the Uk .ground water contamination .& why petrol stations have to have there own external drainage back to a cleansing system & scrapyards are only legal on totally concrete surfaces with drainage.
Spain was far ahead of the Uk on that and any type of vehicle washing either in the road or even inside your own property is totally illegal & why you will see standalone car washes with nothing else there.

So how do the E. Europeans get away with car washes on S/Market CPs?

 

[L' Hobo]

IF nothing else I think it shows laziness and disrespect.

To the general public and Authorities, the M/H fraternity has a bad enough ( mostly unfounded I hope) reputation and when people see practices like this happening, it's hardly going to get Authorities to change their minds about allowing 'aires' in their district, is it?

I also mention disrespect. When I see a M/H trailing water out of the gate of a site, I think, IF I was a person who had cut the grass, cleaned the toilets and always tried to be cheerful and make the punters stay a happy one and IF, despite there being M/H service areas, I saw this trail of waste water, (containing who know what) along the roadway, I would make a note of the number and during the busy months, when the site was heaving and this owner tried to book, as far as they were concerned, we would be FULL.

Why have disrespectful client when you could, possibly, have considerate ones??

PS. IF there's nothing wrong with doing, why cannot be taken home and dumped on ones own driveway??

 

[L' Hobo]

So how do the E. Europeans get away with car washes on S/Market CPs?

These sites, and CP run off, has to be given permission from the planning authorities

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[L' Hobo]

BUT I have more than once forgotten to close my grey waste and have managed to leave a trail on the road or on car parks, and even once on an Aire. So people who live in glass houses ......................................................

I wonder, have you ever forgotten to unplug you EHU? not more than once, I'll bet!

Making sure one has unplugged the EHU and closed the drains comes with practice and how important one thinks it is.

I have never forgotten to close my drains because I think its important to present a good impression to the public and the site owner.

It also makes me feel good in the knowledge that, should I wish to return, I have given a good impression.

PS. I also make a point of saying 'Goodbye and Thankyou!'

 

[Richard n Ann]

I've washed the van several times on the pitch in Benidorm, nobodie's ever said anything

 

[L' Hobo]

I've washed the van several times on the pitch in Benidorm, nobodie's ever said anything

Personally, I think there is a great difference in washing ones vehicle in an area where you are pitched and emptying ones waste water.
How many times have you done that on you pitch were you stopping?

 

[Richard n Ann]

Personally, I think there is a great difference in washing ones vehicle in an area where you are pitched and emptying ones waste water.
How many times have you done that on you pitch were you stopping?

I'm going to plead the 5th on that one

 

[Richard n Ann]

Our neighbour caravan in benidorm just let the grey water go, and it was on the edge of our pitch too, I kept putting bleach in it to stop the smell.

After that I noticed nobody else ever emptied their grey buckets they must have been laughing at me walking over to the toilet block every day with the bucket.

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[Jonno1103]

Can’t see all the fuss over any of it really, the myth of carrots and peas killing moterbikers and the world will end because of some soap in the water, it’s all rubbish in my opinion. I get the part about not simply letting it empty across
an area where people would step into it etc, but other than that, let it go.

Ever noticed how the very same water is drained from narrow boats into canals and I bet there’s not Narrowboatfun site running it down. Don’t hurt the fishies, ducks, moorehens etc.
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All the hire boats on every river they're on in the U.K. and Europe empty the grey waste directly into whatever they're floating on. When in the country side how much of what comes out of the back livestock ends up in a water course? Let's not forget silage either.

 

[L' Hobo]

All the hire boats on every river they're on in the U.K. and Europe empty the grey waste directly into whatever they're floating on. When in the country side how much of what comes out of the back livestock ends up in a water course? Let's not forget silage either.

What about Silage, it's only grass encouraged to ferment in black plastic??

 

[RandallC]

All the hire boats on every river they're on in the U.K. and Europe empty the grey waste directly into whatever they're floating on. When in the country side how much of what comes out of the back livestock ends up in a water course? Let's not forget silage either.

assume therefore that makes it OK ???

Happy to hear the justification for polluting the place everyone lives in, OH and silage / manure heap run off is a problem it kills fish big time.

 

[PP Bear]

Go stop at Scotts Farm in the Witterings, they ask you to release onto the grass, especially in the driest months, plus their grey waste drains, are directly connected to the irrigation ditch that runs around the site.

No smells, no flies and no harm, think everyone should just calm down and each to their own, honestly, plus why is there supposed to be grease in the grey water and bits of food, in all my years I’ve never witnessed this, so I’m guessing that people mustn’t care what they wash down their sinks into their grey tanks, get a strainer and even then, there’s never peas, carrots, small children, grease of puppies caught in it.

Im enjoying the tread mind, as its so emotive this hazardous waste that’s going to kill the planet.

 

[L' Hobo]

Happy to hear the justification for polluting the place everyone lives in, OH and silage / manure heap run off is a problem it kills fish big time.

I, personally, have NEVER justified the polluting of ANYTHING (check my posts) but, phosphate and other chemicals are responsible for most of the polluted rivers. What kills the fish is the growth of Alge thus lowering the oxygen levels.

A lot of this comes from the residual Phosphate fertiliser, left in the ground after the war when farmers were told that this was the way to meet the demands of the nation by the Ministry of Ag & Fish because of food shortages.
More river pollution comes from sewerage drain overflow and industry than from Farmers 'run off'.

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[Stealaway]

If you plan to drop your grey waste, at least be discreet about it.

As above Even wet grass is acceptable but don't make amess of a car park.

I'd been wondering what happened to their grey water and assume it went into a holding tank and was pumped out so was surprised when I learned it was pumped straight out of the side into the canal!

In France all boats have 'sea toilets' so even the black waste goes from the toilets goes straight in the canal/river

 

[L' Hobo]

In France all boats have 'sea toilets' so even the black waste goes from the toilets goes straight in the canal/river

I though, as in Britain, the EU banned them sometime ago for inland waterways which is the reason for canal 'pump out' stations?

 

[RandallC]

I, personally, have NEVER justified the polluting of ANYTHING (check my posts) but, phosphate and other chemicals are responsible for most of the polluted rivers. What kills the fish is the growth of Alge thus lowering the oxygen levels.

A lot of this comes from the residual Phosphate fertiliser, left in the ground after the war when farmers were told that this was the way to meet the demands of the nation by the Ministry of Ag & Fish because of food shortages.
More river pollution comes from sewerage drain overflow and industry than from Farmers 'run off'.

Not saying ANY individual has compromised anything.

Just saying we all contribute to greater or lesser extent.

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All it needs for our children's future's to fail is for the US to do nothing in the present! Every little helps.

Sorry sound like a eco warrior, AM not but understand from a life in industry that what we do/allow to happen to the wold we call home will come back to haunt us big time

 

[Stealaway]

I though, as in Britain, the EU banned them sometime ago for inland waterways which is the reason for canal 'pump out' stations?

As far as I know only on UK canal's. Cassette and pump out tanks.

 

[Nirvanauk]

Actually that was one of the tips the we picked up hiring before buying. I asked the hire company the dumb question of how to empty the waste tank, and they told me that they supplied a bucket. I'll let you guess one of the first things that we put into the garage when we collected our own MH

Remember to put a small hole in the bottom of the bucket…

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[gus-lopez]

We have a scrappy that operates on nine hard surface.

They empty all fluids in a specific area so maybe that’s how they get around it.

Possibly but the area woulld have to be concrete.

So how do the E. Europeans get away with car washes on S/Market CPs?

No idea? Unless the supermarkets have the drains run in to their own holding& treatment tanks.?

I've washed the van several times on the pitch in Benidorm, nobodie's ever said anything

No I doubt if they would .Many spaniards don't even know it is illegal? I have actually seen an old spaniard start washing his car in the road down in Mazarron then 2 old bill came out the tabac opposite, crossed the road & stopped him & gave him a fine.
I wash mine at home occasionally but even using potable water you get streaks so better gioing down the car wash where the water is osmotized & doesn't leave streaks.

 

[Ian.s]

I completely agree that dumping grey should be only be done in the right place. Be careful though before you accuse. My water tank has an overflow pipe at the top. When filling before I leave a park it overflows there before it comes out of the filler. I have been accused by others that I’m dumping my grey until I point it out it’s fresh water. Granted if there’s sweet corn and rice in it then point it out

 

[L' Hobo]

I completely agree that dumping grey should be only be done in the right place. Be careful though before you accuse. My water tank has an overflow pipe at the top. When filling before I leave a park it overflows there before it comes out of the filler. I have been accused by others that I’m dumping my grey until I point it out it’s fresh water. Granted if there’s sweet corn and rice in it then point it out

Travelling with full fresh water tanks, unless your wild camping, is not looked upon as the efficient way of travelling.
More weight, Less MPG's!

 

[peterc10]

Travelling with full fresh water tanks, unless your wild camping, is not looked upon as the efficient way of travelling.
More weight, Less MPG's!

I keep a careful note of our mpg and it never makes much difference. Remember that your motorhome has the air resistance of a brick and that is what drops the mpg.

When travelling in Europe we rarely know where we will end up for the night and what the facilities will be (if any). So full water and empty grey and cassette whenever we can.

 

[Ian.s]

Travelling with full fresh water tanks, unless your wild camping, is not looked upon as the efficient way of travelling.
More weight, Less MPG's!

My motorhome weight 7200kg. After travelling with and without full tanks it makes zero difference to mpg on the trip meter. Plus I never know if I'm going to wild camp or not....better to be prepared

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[Ian.s]

I keep a careful note of our mpg and it never makes much difference. Remember that your motorhome has the air resistance of a brick and that is what drops the mpg.

When travelling in Europe we rarely know where we will end up for the night and what the facilities will be (if any). So full water and empty grey and cassette whenever we can.

Couldn't agree more