Hydraulic Self Levelling Advice

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We have a 5.93m Mercedes Sprinter campervan on order and are considering having a hydraulic self levelling system fitted. Any advice from members who already have it on their campers or motorhomes would be appreciated.
 
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Had Ma-Ve system fitted last year to 9m tag.

Can't level a tag on the rear with ramps, makes a lot of difference as people have said with sink+shower etc.

Doubt a PVC would have this issue but mine sits really low on the front so you'd always need to be on the "to step" of the Quattro ramps and you could smell the clutch sometimes coupled with thr bickering with thr Mrs "how much more, it the spirit level in the middle etc" it seems good money spent.

Only issue is the front being low it uses most of the ram lift to get the front level on flat ground so uprated springs about to be fitted which will allow me to drop the rams down.
 
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We have a 5.93m Mercedes Sprinter campervan on order and are considering having a hydraulic self levelling system fitted. Any advice from members who already have it on their campers or motorhomes would be appreciated.
Recommend Towtal of Longton. They fit the Amplo system but are fully booked until May. They also fit the MA-VE system but IMO the Amplo system is better. https://towtal.co.uk/automatic-levelling/
 
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I know it shouldn’t irk me, but it does. As someone who didn’t formally qualify as an Engineer but who nonetheless spent the majority of my career working alongside, and managing, professional engineers, it dismays me that, unlike our continental cousins, the great British public do not understand what an Engineer is/does. In the UK it seems that anyone who comes into contact with metal in the course of their job is an ‘engineer’, - we even seem to have photocopy engineers! Most of the trades that people refer to as engineers are fabricators, welders, mechanics, fitters, etc but they’re not engineers.

To be clear, I’m not denigrating any of those trades nor am I denigrating SAP; indeed, if our next van doesn’t have levellers already fitted then I’ll probably be heading straight to SAP to have them fitted (with whatever brackets that they need to fabricate for that purpose 😉). 👍



It seems that they fabricated and fitted some brackets to facilitate the fitment of the system. It’s unlikely that they confirmed that the brackets fitted could sustain the anticipated stresses. This would be an integral part of the design process for a professional engineer.



I do understand how good they are and will likely use them on my next van. However, as good as they are, they’re clearly fabricators and fitters, not engineers.



Agreed, it is about the interpretation of the term engineer and it’s just a shame that we diminish the standing of proper engineers by lumping them in with trades people. It’s a bit like referring to nurses as doctors (I know that’s probably a poor analogy given nurses require degrees these days), legal assistants as lawyers, accounts clerks as accountants, draughtsmen (do they still exist?) as architects, etc. It just doesn’t happen but, for some reason, the great British public refer to mechanics (and other trades people) as engineers! 🤷‍♂️



I don’t doubt that they are extremely competent fabricators but the fact that they produce metal objects does not make them engineers.

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There you have it, I’ve stood up for the least recognised professional group who are responsible for the whole gamut of technology that we rely on, and use, in our everyday lives!

Time for a beer I think. 😎

Ian
"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224

Level 3 Diploma, which means Advanced Engineering Manufacture Apprenticeship framework.​

 
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"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224

Level 3 Diploma, which means Advanced Engineering Manufacture Apprenticeship framework.​


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i have HPC and love them. wouldn't be without them despite the hassle I originally had due to crap dealer at the outset who didn't understand what my 5 tonne 8.7m auto-trail Comanche needed! so another vote for AS Air suspension at Warrington great people who sorted my system, just don't go to Bristol for them EVER!
I've tried to message you, but you don't appear to be accepting messages. Could you please contact me re your HPC levelling. Many thanks.
 
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I'd be very mindful of the storage space you have in a PVC, and the size of the hydraulic pump and oil reservoir.
Our E&P levellers take up no space at all inside. SAP provided a waterproof box fitted under the floor to house the pump and all the other gubbins.
 
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I've tried to message you, but you don't appear to be accepting messages. Could you please contact me re your HPC levelling. Many thanks.
"Free member" so will be read only and won't get PM's I believe.
 
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Hi Bill I’ve had self levering on our MH last year the best thing I have bought it’s a HPC you can’t level it with out getting out of your driving seat from a app on your phone and it comes with a 3 year warranty the unit will fit under the MH and you don’t loose any space in MH if you have it serviced on the 3rd year you get another year warranty and every year after as long as you have it serviced and when you replace the MH they will take it off and fit to your new MH and if you have a problem after fitting they will come out to you
who fitted your HPC and to what motorhome please?
 
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Had the HPC system fitted to our 7.2MTR Chauson by LNB towbars Bristol well pleased.
 
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"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224

Level 3 Diploma, which means Advanced Engineering Manufacture Apprentice​

A lot of people working in the Motortrade are known As Technicians , some also have Professional qualifications having studied Law and finance I done in the Motortrade in my hayday 7 years part-time college to gain thes qualifications, trouble is both Engineering and Motortrade has never been in most cases not that well paid
 
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There are also many others including myself who are very happy with LNB and HPC

I quite agree, but for balance, the views of those not satisfied and the problems they have had may well be useful to those thinking that certain suppliers and installers are without problems, do you not agree?

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We had the HPC system fitted at LNB. The rear rams were fitted to struts that were too weak and ended up bending out of line. However to their credit they took the van back and fitted much stronger pieces and we have had no trouble since. Companies can make mistakes but the sign of a good one is how they rectify the problem.
 
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I had a 1948 MG Y saloon car it had 4 jack's you could jack up front, rear separately or all 4 , pumped by a simple hand pump, if that system was available now , it would be lighter and cheaper than one with an electric pump I'm pretty sure.
 
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We have the system fitted by SAP and cannot fault it. Merc 519 so ramps not an option but the best money spent for eliminating the wobble and keeping the van level when parked up. It was an awkward installation but the original quote was honoured
 
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Had mine fitted by Glide Rite in Birkenhead great company to deal with and nothing seems to be to much of a problem had to problem with a bit of when using it in manual but they sorted it out fitted to a Elddis Accordo 105
 
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HPC LEVERING just to continue at Glide Rite because they was no place to fit the bump in the van they put the bump in a steel box under the van and the problem I had was in manual it was a bit aggressive but they sorted it
 
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