We have a 5.93m Mercedes Sprinter campervan on order and are considering having a hydraulic self levelling system fitted. Any advice from members who already have it on their campers or motorhomes would be appreciated.
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Recommend Towtal of Longton. They fit the Amplo system but are fully booked until May. They also fit the MA-VE system but IMO the Amplo system is better. https://towtal.co.uk/automatic-levelling/We have a 5.93m Mercedes Sprinter campervan on order and are considering having a hydraulic self levelling system fitted. Any advice from members who already have it on their campers or motorhomes would be appreciated.
"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224I know it shouldn’t irk me, but it does. As someone who didn’t formally qualify as an Engineer but who nonetheless spent the majority of my career working alongside, and managing, professional engineers, it dismays me that, unlike our continental cousins, the great British public do not understand what an Engineer is/does. In the UK it seems that anyone who comes into contact with metal in the course of their job is an ‘engineer’, - we even seem to have photocopy engineers! Most of the trades that people refer to as engineers are fabricators, welders, mechanics, fitters, etc but they’re not engineers.
To be clear, I’m not denigrating any of those trades nor am I denigrating SAP; indeed, if our next van doesn’t have levellers already fitted then I’ll probably be heading straight to SAP to have them fitted (with whatever brackets that they need to fabricate for that purpose ).
It seems that they fabricated and fitted some brackets to facilitate the fitment of the system. It’s unlikely that they confirmed that the brackets fitted could sustain the anticipated stresses. This would be an integral part of the design process for a professional engineer.
I do understand how good they are and will likely use them on my next van. However, as good as they are, they’re clearly fabricators and fitters, not engineers.
Agreed, it is about the interpretation of the term engineer and it’s just a shame that we diminish the standing of proper engineers by lumping them in with trades people. It’s a bit like referring to nurses as doctors (I know that’s probably a poor analogy given nurses require degrees these days), legal assistants as lawyers, accounts clerks as accountants, draughtsmen (do they still exist?) as architects, etc. It just doesn’t happen but, for some reason, the great British public refer to mechanics (and other trades people) as engineers!
I don’t doubt that they are extremely competent fabricators but the fact that they produce metal objects does not make them engineers.
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There you have it, I’ve stood up for the least recognised professional group who are responsible for the whole gamut of technology that we rely on, and use, in our everyday lives!
Time for a beer I think.
Ian
"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224
Level 3 Diploma, which means Advanced Engineering Manufacture Apprenticeship framework.
I've tried to message you, but you don't appear to be accepting messages. Could you please contact me re your HPC levelling. Many thanks.i have HPC and love them. wouldn't be without them despite the hassle I originally had due to crap dealer at the outset who didn't understand what my 5 tonne 8.7m auto-trail Comanche needed! so another vote for AS Air suspension at Warrington great people who sorted my system, just don't go to Bristol for them EVER!
Our E&P levellers take up no space at all inside. SAP provided a waterproof box fitted under the floor to house the pump and all the other gubbins.I'd be very mindful of the storage space you have in a PVC, and the size of the hydraulic pump and oil reservoir.
who fitted your HPC and to what motorhome please?Broken Link Removed
Hi Bill I’ve had self levering on our MH last year the best thing I have bought it’s a HPC you can’t level it with out getting out of your driving seat from a app on your phone and it comes with a 3 year warranty the unit will fit under the MH and you don’t loose any space in MH if you have it serviced on the 3rd year you get another year warranty and every year after as long as you have it serviced and when you replace the MH they will take it off and fit to your new MH and if you have a problem after fitting they will come out to you
thanks i ejoined my membership lapsed when my credit card changed!"Free member" so will be read only and won't get PM's I believe.
Had the HPC system fitted to our 7.2MTR Chauson by LNB towbars Bristol well pleased.
A lot of people working in the Motortrade are known As Technicians , some also have Professional qualifications having studied Law and finance I done in the Motortrade in my hayday 7 years part-time college to gain thes qualifications, trouble is both Engineering and Motortrade has never been in most cases not that well paid"British public refer to Mechanics as Engineers" ? Don't know where you come from, but me and everyone I know would never class a Mechanic as an Engineer, Mechanic is a Mechanic, also to be a copy Engineer, or at least one's that I know, have to advance to C&G 224
Level 3 Diploma, which means Advanced Engineering Manufacture Apprentice
There are also many others including myself who are very happy with LNB and HPCThere are a couple of very unhappy customers of LNB towbars of Bristol and their HPC levelling systems on Youtube.
There are also many others including myself who are very happy with LNB and HPC