How much for an Oil & Filter change

[dunnah01]

Not that posh , a Porsche 911

I remember having to buy 12l of Mobil 1 back in the day to fill the dry sump oil tank on my 1978 SC.

 

[Steve-N]

£307.14 for oil and filters , oil £50 a gallon so £250, oil filters £10, pollen filter £20 so what cost £220 + labour?
Perhaps I am living in the past but it does seem a bit steep.

5 gallons of oil (22.7 litres) !!!
That's one big sump

 

[robnchris]

Don't forget to reset the oil change in the computer, Fiats have two resets one for a service and one for an oil change.
The computer will send a message when the oil needs changing, if you don't reset the computer then the message will change from "Change Oil" to "Stop Engine"

 

[Mikeyv60]

I remember having to buy 12l of Mobil 1 back in the day to fill the dry sump oil tank on my 1978 SC.

Think it was the £250 an hr labour which slightly hurts.
But got to admit the Porsche stamps in the book kept its value, admittedly covid helped, but hardly lost any money in 5 years of motoring

 

[gwyntaxi]

It probably equates to 1.5 hrs labour.

Check the size of wrench required
Find wrench
Locate oil catcher.and wheel into place
Undo sump plug .
Drain oil.
Undo oil filter
Drain oil
WATCH ALL THE OIL DRAIN
Replace sump plug with new washer
Fill oil filter with oil
Remove oil catcher.
Fit oil filter
Fill engine with oil.
Put tools away ,
Clean up.
Check dipstick oil level.

1.5 hrs looks to be OK.
Plus Top price for oil and filter..

Bl@@dy Rip off.

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[Beekeeper]

Today , when finishing installation of new compressor fridge in van , discussed in another thread I thought I would change the oil and filter in my Peugeot boxer Elddis 255. So oil drain tray found and moved under van . Allen socket on sump plug and removed. Oil filter removal tool on socket handle. Filter removed. So close to drain plug the filter oil dropped into tray. I then left to drain while I got on with other jobs . When it had stopped dripping, new filter on, drain plug replaced , funnel into oil filler port and new oil in. It is the easiest oil change I do . I have four cars , four motorbikes, kubota mower, JCB 8015. Believe me the motorhome is the simple. About 20 minutes at most. It took longer to find the tray and afterwards pour the oil into suitable container. I also know it is done correctly with the correct parts.

 

[Gooners on Tour]

10 month old Ducato based MoHo. Below quote from Fiat Professional (HTC Belvedere) for oil & filter change (not service). 5L can works out more expensive than per litre price (£15.89)? Pretty sure they just pump from 45gal drum anyway. Total = £331.75 inc VAT. Extortionate?

1 hour labour @ £150
Oil filter £19.66.
Sump washer £1.43
Oil - 7 litres in total, 5 litre can £79.43 + 2 litres @ £12.97 each
+ vat

 

[Beekeeper]

Crazy. Who pays these prices?

 

[gus-lopez]

Oil - 7 litres in total, 5 litre can £79.43 + 2 litres @ £12.97 each

I'd have refused to pay until they reduced the 5 litre price down to the individual price/litre along with "don't take the piss ****"

& as said it comes out a 50 gallon drum.

 

[Gooners on Tour]

Crazy. Who pays these prices?

Looks like I will be
Probably best to stick to main dealer whilst under warranty.

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[dunnah01]

10 month old Ducato based MoHo. Below quote from Fiat Professional (HTC Belvedere) for oil & filter change (not service). 5L can works out more expensive than per litre price (£15.89)? Pretty sure they just pump from 45gal drum anyway. Total = £331.75 inc VAT. Extortionate?

1 hour labour @ £150
Oil filter £19.66.
Sump washer £1.43
Oil - 7 litres in total, 5 litre can £79.43 + 2 litres @ £12.97 each
+ vat

They'd have charged an extra 1/2hr labour to put in 7 separate litre cans of oil so they've done you a favour.

 

[RV72 SAM 🏴]

Yes why as only 10 month's old??? Fiat not due till 24 month's, so why do it a year early, as it won't help in the long run.
Just means doing it twice unless you only done short town journeys, which I doubt very much, or you covered 20k in 10 month's, mines same age done 6,500 miles !

P.s. Oil quote is right OE Petronas Selenia is £15+ a litre, filter is retail, but labour is rediculous especially when it's only 20-30 mins to change. Also not 7 litres so make sure they give you what was left for topping up.

So the upshot is you don't have to spend a penny with Fiat main stealers while it's within it's 24 month warranty.
If you want to use Petronas it's available on Ebay, but there's a Millers or Mobil 1 equivalent that is the same spec .
Approved specialist's are available with a stamp, you do have to send supplying dealer a copy of Invoice as proof.

 

[Mikeyv60]

Crazy. Who pays these prices?

Every 2 years genuine stamp in the book on newer vehicles that cost thousands, i dont see what the issue is

 

[Mikeyv60]

Looks like I will be
Probably best to stick to main dealer whilst under warranty.

Yes why as only 10 month's old??? Fiat not due till 24 month's, so why do it a year early, as it won't help in the long run.
Just means doing it twice unless you only done short town journeys, which I doubt very much, or you covered 20k in 10 month's, mines same age done 6,500 miles !

P.s. Oil quote is right OE Petronas Selenia is £15+ a litre, filter is retail, but labour is rediculous especially when it's only 20-30 mins to change. Also not 7 litres so make sure they give you what was left for topping up.

So the upshot is you don't have to spend a penny with Fiat main stealers while it's within it's 24 month warranty.
If you want to use Petronas it's available on Ebay, but there's a Millers or Mobil 1 equivalent that is the same spec .
Approved specialist's are available with a stamp, you do have to send supplying dealer a copy of Invoice as proof.

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Yes why as only 10 month's old??? Fiat not due till 24 month's, so why do it a year early, as it won't help in the long run.
Just means doing it twice unless you only done short town journeys, which I doubt very much, or you covered 20k in 10 month's, mines same age done 6,500 miles !

P.s. Oil quote is right OE Petronas Selenia is £15+ a litre, filter is retail, but labour is rediculous especially when it's only 20-30 mins to change. Also not 7 litres so make sure they give you what was left for topping up.

So the upshot is you don't have to spend a penny with Fiat main stealers while it's within it's 24 month warranty.
If you want to use Petronas it's available on Ebay, but there's a Millers or Mobil 1 equivalent that is the same spec .
Approved specialist's are available with a stamp, you do have to send supplying dealer a copy of Invoice as proof.

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My local fiat commercial dealer carried out warranty work on mine at 30 months, having it serviced with them definitely helped.

 

[RV72 SAM 🏴]

How did this help, as they would still have had to carry out all warranty work if you hadn't spent an additional £350???

Where as you actually didn't comply with the servicing schedule that states 24 month's or 30,000 miles (Whichever sooner)

Was the warranty work related to the engine being faulty???
Probably not as these euro 6 motor is now in a different class to all it's predecessors, and they should have advised you were wasting your money, but they're not going to do that are they unless you physically asked them the question ! ! !

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[RV72 SAM 🏴]

Look I'm not trying to be pedantic, just trying to emphasise the fact you don't require a 1st year service that's all !

I'm presuming from what you said you would have had serviced it twice in the 30 month's 12/24 at a cost of nearly £700. That's a lot of money to the average working class guy.
You could have had a full service at 24 month's instead at a lot less cost than that, would have made more sense to me.

 

[Mikeyv60]

How did this help, as they would still have had to carry out all warranty work if you hadn't spent an additional £350???

Where as you actually didn't comply with the servicing schedule that states 24 month's or 30,000 miles (Whichever sooner)

Was the warranty work related to the engine being faulty???
Probably not as these euro 6 motor is now in a different class to all it's predecessors, and they should have advised you were wasting your money, but they're not going to do that are they unless you physically asked them the question ! ! !

I had it serviced with the 24 months, it was out of warranty so would have been chargeable if they hadnt been helpful.
Engine related im afraid
Your Fiat Professional-based motorhome warranty offers:

• Warranty on the Fiat Professional base (24 months).
• Warranty specifically relating to Paintwork on the base (24 months).
• Warranty specifically relating to Perforating Corrosion on the base (8 years).

 

[enark]

Selenia forward 0w-30 is expensive, just picked up 6 litres for £83.

Oil filter - maybe a tenner…

 

[enark]

Yes why as only 10 month's old??? Fiat not due till 24 month's, so why do it a year early, as it won't help in the long run.
Just means doing it twice unless you only done short town journeys, which I doubt very much, or you covered 20k in 10 month's, mines same age done 6,500 miles !

P.s. Oil quote is right OE Petronas Selenia is £15+ a litre, filter is retail, but labour is rediculous especially when it's only 20-30 mins to change. Also not 7 litres so make sure they give you what was left for topping up.

So the upshot is you don't have to spend a penny with Fiat main stealers while it's within it's 24 month warranty.
If you want to use Petronas it's available on Ebay, but there's a Millers or Mobil 1 equivalent that is the same spec .
Approved specialist's are available with a stamp, you do have to send supplying dealer a copy of Invoice as proof.

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First oil change should not be left for 24 months if you want reliability from an engine.

And that is for regular mileage vehicles.

 

[swemmy666]

You've got to be kidding

It should take 15 -20 mins at most. That's how long it would take me lying underneath it. Access to drain plug and filter is very easy. They are taking the piss. I'd ask why it takes a trained mechanic with all the tools and ramps that long.

He was just unlucky the job started just before the lunch break and didn't finish to just afterwards

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[gilbaro]

As an aside, anyone recommend a dipstick oil removal pump. Seems to be a lot less messy than cracking the sump plug.

Lidl were selling a pump this week for 10.99. Don't know whether it's any good and whether you get all the dirty oil out

 

[pelican]

Dont

It probably equates to 1.5 hrs labour.

Check the size of wrench required
Find wrench
Locate oil catcher.and wheel into place
Undo sump plug .
Drain oil.
Undo oil filter
Drain oil
WATCH ALL THE OIL DRAIN
Replace sump plug with new washer
Fill oil filter with oil
Remove oil catcher.
Fit oil filter
Fill engine with oil.
Put tools away ,
Clean up.
Check dipstick oil level.

1.5 hrs looks to be OK.
Plus Top price for oil and filterDon't forget the engine flush oil!

 

[IRHP]

Lidl were selling a pump this week for 10.99. Don't know whether it's any good and whether you get all the dirty oil out

Tried one of them on my boat engine once. Complete waste of money. The sump plug on the Fiat is easily accessible, not even a jack required.

 

[WillysMB]

just paid £290 for an oil change at a Fiat approved garage to adhere to the Fiat warranty side of things, asked them about swapping my wheels around ( front to back and back to front ) quoted £110.00 ...said no and did it myself in 30 mins using standard jack at home in the road and not on a ramp ...

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Dont

Don't what?
And by the way I forgot to add... "locate correct oil filter from stores".

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[enark]

just paid £290 for an oil change at a Fiat approved garage to adhere to the Fiat warranty side of things, asked them about swapping my wheels around ( front to back and back to front ) quoted £110.00 ...said no and did it myself in 30 mins using standard jack at home in the road and not on a ramp ...

Ive just paid £81 for the oil and £31 for the filter. Will take me 30 mins when the sun shines.

 

[Outdoors Dad]

Robbing buggers. I've just done the oil on my daily drive vivaro van crawling about on the drive £52 for correct spec oil 7l and filter took one hour and that included a Wyns cleaning additive that takes 15 mins warmup before draining. These garages get they warranty money that's for sure.

 

[enark]

Robbing buggers. I've just done the oil on my daily drive vivaro van crawling about on the drive £52 for correct spec oil 7l and filter took one hour and that included a Wyns cleaning additive that takes 15 mins warmup before draining. These garages get they warranty money that's for sure.

Interested to know where you got 7l of Selinia wr forward 0w-30 from for £52? Best i could get was £81

 

[pelican]

D

Don't what?
And by the way I forgot to add... "locate correct oil filter from stores".

Don't forget the flushing Oil!
Probably a queue at the stores aswell

 

[Outdoors Dad]

Interested to know where you got 7l of Selinia wr forward 0w-30 from for £52? Best i could get was £81

My van 5w 30, incidentally my transit MH is 5w 30 and also 7l but I paid £8 more for a shell oil. Vivaro I used monoil.

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