Has anyone had a decal that degrades? (2 Viewers)

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I have a rollerteam T590 2017. I have attached a picture of the worst decal and how it has degraded. I have approached the dealer who says “It’s out of warranty, and will cost over 2K to replace all the decals that are affected”. Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it?
 

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Stealaway

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Jan 8, 2013
8,496
11,546
Dronfield - Derbyshire
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24,202
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Burstner Lyseo 690G
Exp
Happy FLT since 2011
I have a rollerteam T590 2017. I have attached a picture of the worst decal and how it has degraded. I have approached the dealer who says “It’s out of warranty, and will cost over 2K to replace all the decals that are affected”. Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it?
Take a pattern and a photo to your local van sign writer they will cut you some
 
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May 23, 2008
2,511
3,587
Near Durham City
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2,787
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Carthago
Exp
Since 1984
The problem is cheap ink used in the printing process coupled with rubbish vinyl and no laminated prrotection. It all adds up to a very short life.
Very easy job for a sign company. I'd recommend specifying a normal vinyl with a good lifespan and you'll not have any more issues I've signwritten over 27,000 vehicles and never had any complaints. That includes thousands of emergency vehicles.
Good luck.

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Tombola

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Nov 21, 2020
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Rapido 8094DF
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Since 2004
all good advice but make sure your "sign maker" is using cast vinyl for vehicle graphics and not just the same as they use for signs especially if they use the cheaper "calandered" .
Can be applied and removed easier, plus doesnt shrink as much or fade as quick as calandered vinyl (cheaper)
over lamination is an option which helps fading but not a requirement if using 10 year cast, and its self can "de laminate" slightly over time
 
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Aug 19, 2013
3,107
4,576
Wells, Somerset
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Elddis 115
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since 2004
Couldn't it be painted over? I suspect my van although an AT, is made by RT, and the darker stripes look just the same. So did consider overpainting which would be cheaper, but not sure which kind of paint to use.
 
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May 23, 2008
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Since 1984
Couldn't it be painted over? I suspect my van although an AT, is made by RT, and the darker stripes look just the same. So did consider overpainting which would be cheaper, but not sure which kind of paint to use.
Overpainting vinyl will crack.All vinyl breathes which means it expands and contracts with temperature so any overpaint will not be as flexible.
 
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Stealaway

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Feb 5, 2020
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Smileo 202
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Was a Newbie but getting the hang of it now.
Got a similar set of marks on a 2019 Benimar
Dealer wanted £600+ to replace.
Have asked in writing for them to confirm why not covered by warranty also is it a common problem and what guarantees that it will not return.
It's just on the nearside windows at present.
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Nearside rear hab window
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Nearside front hap window.

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Feb 2, 2015
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7,274
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IH Tio RL
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Learning to appreciate what time we have left
I don't think it's just RT or AT to be honest. I know ours is fading on all the silver decals. Ours is a 2015 . Ours is booked in to the vehicle and sign writing in Shrewsbury to have them replaced. Autotrail wanted £650per side of silver only!
£240 Inc fitting Shrewsbury....no brainer really. ;) (y)
 
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May 2, 2023
889
3,265
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Auto-Trail Frontier
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I'm a newbie
Can recommend Motique Plastics, Warrington (01925 767868) who printed a set for our Autotrail recently as ours were looking faded, cracked and tired. OH did a great job applying them, MH looks great.
 
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Nov 2, 2014
1,125
1,088
somerset
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34,099
MH
coachbuilt
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2011
I have a rollerteam T590 2017. I have attached a picture of the worst decal and how it has degraded. I have approached the dealer who says “It’s out of warranty, and will cost over 2K to replace all the decals that are affected”. Has anyone else had this problem and how did you fix it?
ours are melted and baked
ours are melted and baked
Just about to have mine done by RT signs in bridwater, I've took my old ones off and new ones ordered 700 pounds to supply and fix 21 year old van



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Jul 16, 2020
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108
Hungerford, West Berks.
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73,085
MH
AutoSleeper Nuevo 04
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30+ years
Older Autosleepers (2004 Nuevo) have same problem. Graphics faded and peeling, some get away with it, some don’t!

Easily solved although a bit of hard work - stripped the lot off, cleaned and polished up leaving a smart, clean, white motorhome.

Actually think it looks better ‘naked’.
 
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Aug 21, 2009
72
60
leeds
Funster No
8,084
MH
C class
Exp
Since 2009
Yes, Globecar are terrible for it. Im looking for a good vinyl person to make me some new ones in or near Leeds
I also live in Leeds. If you find a decent vinyl person would you please pass his details on to me as I have a scratch on the side of my motorhome that would look better covered. Thanks, Mike
 
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May 2, 2023
889
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Kent, UK
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95,687
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Auto-Trail Frontier
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I'm a newbie
Were they able to match the originals please? Or are they different ?
Any chance of any pics 👍
Hi, yes a perfect match, bearing in mind our MH is a 2010. I gave them the make/model and they emailed an Autotrail numbered sheet showing all the decals to select what we needed. They were a perfect match, cost about 300 for both sides and around rear lights.



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hja

May 8, 2020
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Globecar Summit Prim
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Since 2019
Yes, Globecar are terrible for it. Im looking for a good vinyl person to make me some new ones in or near Leeds
Yes. Our 2021 Globecar has slightly peeling decals on one side. It’s the side that sits in the sun when the van is at home! May or may not do something about it. If it is going to cost £700 as above, probably not.
 
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Feb 5, 2020
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Our Benimar (69 plate) has had to have some replaced under warranty but paid for fitting. There are now others that have gone the same way on the sun exposed side. May go for the stripped look.
 
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Jul 13, 2023
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All over Europe now
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97,311
MH
Adria 680ST Gold
I did not notice on my Adria 690st Gold until it was repaired recently , now the Decalls on the right hand side are Bronze /Gold but the left hand side are originals and have faded to a silver / bronze colour,, if i sell the van I will get a car wrap/ signwriters company to make some new ones to match
 
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Feb 13, 2019
69
53
LLANELLI
Funster No
58,531
MH
Rollerteam Zefiro 685
Exp
6 years
Can recommend Motique Plastics, Warrington (01925 767868) who printed a set for our Autotrail recently as ours were looking faded, cracked and tired. OH did a great job applying them, MH looks great.
How much did they charge and were they fitted or supply only Cheers
 
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May 2, 2023
889
3,265
Kent, UK
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95,687
MH
Auto-Trail Frontier
Exp
I'm a newbie
How much did they charge and were they fitted or supply only Cheers
Around 300ish, supplied only. My partner removed old and replaced them, took a bit of time but wasn't too difficult he said and he will do any others as they deteriorate. MH looks much tidier so worth the money.
 
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