Go Outdoors

[The Wino]

Some customers might not shop BECAUSE the staff are wearing masks when the law doesn’t require it anymore .

Exactly my point at the end about people with the opposite view.

 

[AG 2602]

The rules changed last Monday. Masks are no longer required.

Yes my mask is gone! I don’t have a problem if people want to continue wearing them if they think they are being protected but personally I’m relying on the vaccine. I fully expect to catch COVID at some point as I think will most of us! In the vaccine I trust!

 

[Manic]

Been watching a particular sleeping bag, but every time there is a. Sale its not included. Just bought the same one from Millets a much cheaper. When it arrived there was a form in case it had to be returned for any reason. The address covered

millets, Blacks and Go Outdoors. Just wondered if they are connected why the large difference in listed prices.

I also saw some sandals in Go outdoors , went home to check for reviews and found them £6 cheaper from Millets eBay store with free delivery.
I also noticed the list of shops.

 

[The Wino]

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I also saw some sandals in Go outdoors , went home to check for reviews and found them £6 cheaper from Millets eBay store with free delivery.

I got a pair of Berghaus walking boots in Blacks and they matched the millets in store price no quibble a couple of years ago.

 

[Jonno1103]

Im not saying they're decision is wrong just that as a retailer need to know how their customers feel. If their customers feel unwilling to stay in the store because the staff choose not to wear masks it's up to go outdoors if they require their workers to wear masks or not. It's not the law that workers wear uniforms it's their employers decision.
Part of deciding how to manage our own risk is choosing where we go. It could be some decide to avoid crowded shops some decide to only go in shops that still require social distancing etc. I see nothing wrong with saying to a retailer why you decide not to go there whether it's because you feel uncomfortable because staff aren't wearing masks or vice versa because you don't agree with some still restricting the numbers admitted at once.

As I said, the store will provide a medical mask to those customers who wish one. I'm sure the prospective purchaser was wearing a mask anyway?

Until July 2020 hardly any shop staff wore a face covering of any kind, it didn't stop shoppers who had no protection so why now when those most at risk have been double jabbed is it an issue?

Manage our own risk? The country has moved on. We can all hang on every statistic published or we can begin to get on with our lives, the virus is never going away regardless of what we do.

Perspectives.

I've had the thing, I'm in cohort 4, had two jabs. I was at risk of catching all kinds of nasties deadly or otherwise pre Feb'/March 2020, for me the risk has never changed.

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[Pusscat]

Yes my mask is gone! I don’t have a problem if people want to continue wearing them if they think they are being protected but personally I’m relying on the vaccine. I fully expect to catch COVID at some point as I think will most of us! In the vaccine I trust!

wasn’t one point of masks was to prevent it spreading from the infected if they were a mask wearer to others? It’s a two way street. i’m confident that if I get it now, being fully vaccinated i’ll be asymptomatic or just go down with a relatively mild form, but without a mask, i can more easily pass it to others?

 

[sueandjohn]

Some customers might not shop BECAUSE the staff are wearing masks when the law doesn’t require it anymore .

Yes it’s a difficult one … no right answers I guess

 

[XxAnthxX]

but without a mask, i can more easily pass it to others?

Potentially, but there are various thoughts and studies on that, results particularly depending on the type of face coverings in use, however Public Health England studied more than 500,000 households in England and estimated that unvaccinated people infected around 10% of people in their households. But that rate was nearly halved, to around 6%, if the original person had been vaccinated.

I’d have thought If it’s as transmissible as it is meant to be, one person with it in your household would infect virtually 100% of those living in close proximity In that household.

Still It appears vaccination is the key……

 

[MattR]

Yes my mask is gone! I don’t have a problem if people want to continue wearing them if they think they are being protected but personally I’m relying on the vaccine. I fully expect to catch COVID at some point as I think will most of us! In the vaccine I trust!

Don't rely on the vaccine giving your full protection; I know of a few people who have been double vaccinated, caught covid and are still suffering the medium-term effects of it. They have lost a lot of fitness and it took them several weeks just to be able to go up and down stairs without becomming out of breath. I know that they would have probably suffered a lot more without the vaccine but there appear to be far too many risks being taken by peeps who think that "Freedom day" means that the risk is reduced significantly. I know of more people infected and self-isolating in the last 30 days than I've known that have caught it or had so isolate since the pandemic started.

 

[Pusscat]

i agree…the Covid vaccines we are using are so incredibly effective, the best vaccines we’ve ever had? It’s so sad to read about people who are severely ill / have died that didn’t want the jab when it likely would have resulted in a better outcome for them.

I know we’ve had an admirable vaccination plan in this country but I can’t help thinking a lot of time was wasted when vaccines were in good supply, that we should have been vaccinating more and quicker. I had hoped all that could be would be fully jabbed by now.

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[TheMachMan]

The challenge now is getting the younger generation to take their jabs. The update has slowed. We know or have heard of several that won’t take it because they think that even if they become infected are unlikely to become seriously ill. Forgetting the fact they could still pass it on.

 

[XxAnthxX]

Not much in it…….

Anyway….back to Go Outdoors.

 

[69473]

Go Outdoors loss was Cotswalds Outdoors gain.
Ordered when i came back from Cambridge, just had email, boots have been dispatched.

 

[MsT2]

I feel sorry for staff who are expected to wear a mask all day in hot weather even though it isn’t a legal requirement anymore . I wonder if the people moaning about no masks have tried wearing one all day in the hot weather we just had, it’s not very easy .

I wear one all day with no choice as a Social Carer, and a disposable mask at that. So, in conclusion... Zero sympathy for moaners!

 

[georgio]

The facts are out there . People are still getting infected and whilst I do not regard the NHS as my god, its better if we do not overwhelm it with seriously ill people if avoidable. I will as I have said before wear a mask whenever I feel its risky not to do so. It also helps other diseases from spreading also.

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[Spriddler]

I'm quite happy to wear a mask as I can leave my dentures out.

 

[Wack]

As been mentioned it's not now a legal requirement to wear masks, however, i will wear when entering shops or anywhere indoors for that matter. If i am not comfortable with the staff or customers not wearing i will leave or will not enter. My choice and this is what my wife and i will do for the foreseeable.

best get used to not going out much then, it's over , until the government makes it mandatory again

 

[bobnick]

Don't think me wanting to wear a mask will alter my social life that much. I'll wear a mask if i have to go indoors anywhere, Outside not so much of course.

 

[Langtoftlad]

More than happy if the paranoid mask wearers stay out of the shops I want to go in... it's space not a mask that will protect you... and let me get on with living life.

 

[glenn2926]

Im not saying they're decision is wrong just that as a retailer need to know how their customers feel. If their customers feel unwilling to stay in the store because the staff choose not to wear masks it's up to go outdoors if they require their workers to wear masks or not. It's not the law that workers wear uniforms it's their employers decision.
Part of deciding how to manage our own risk is choosing where we go. It could be some decide to avoid crowded shops some decide to only go in shops that still require social distancing etc. I see nothing wrong with saying to a retailer why you decide not to go there whether it's because you feel uncomfortable because staff aren't wearing masks or vice versa because you don't agree with some still restricting the numbers admitted at once.

You’re not saying their decision is wrong just they need to know how their customers feel? Surely you mean some of their customers? I for one am glad masks are no longer required and won’t be wearing one unless the premises I enter require one.

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[TheMachMan]

Not much in it…….

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Anyway….back to Go Outdoors.

In the paper today, shows the younger Generation still have a way to go…

 

[XxAnthxX]

In the paper today, shows the younger Generation still have a way to go…

Is that not because the youngest of that cohort have only been eligible since earlier this month?

68% in such a short period of time compared to the 95+% cohorts that have been running and available for the best part of this year or more…..I don’t think they’re doing too bad.

 

[TheMachMan]

Is that not because the youngest of that cohort have only been eligible since earlier this month?

68% in such a short period of time compared to the 95+% cohorts that have been running and available for the best part of this year or more…..I don’t think they’re doing too bad.

Let’s see how it pans out but most reports suggest some vaccine centres are seeing a decline in numbers and are under used. This has been linked to the under 30’s.

 

[The Wino]

Let’s see how it pans out but most reports suggest some vaccine centres are seeing a decline in numbers and are under used. This has been linked to the under 30’s.

I think it's a harder decision if you're in an age group who are less likely to suffer severe illness and spend time on social media listening to idiots.
A friend of ours has teenagers and she says things which I suspect must come from social media like the original scare about petrol pumps being a big spreader of covid there supposedly being a case of a death 3 days after vaccination due to a sudden increase in heart size etc etc. I think she wants to be young like them! There's a lot of bollo*** out there about vaccination and infertility too.
Our kids are both vacced. Despite both having masters in science subjects one still wavered a bit until we pointed out how crazy the theories were.

 

[hja]

Yes, I am sure Mum thinks that she hears better without her mask. Dad thinks he hears better if he shouts at me!

people with hearing difficulties have been hit hard by mask wearing. Many hard of hearing lip read. Actually we all do to some extent. Also my OH is not alone on having to take his hearing aids out when wearing a mask. He has tried different types but the loops pull hi aids out. Probably would be better with a face shield, but they are not as effective at preventing transmission.

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[Puddleduck]

people with hearing difficulties have been hit hard by mask wearing. Many hard of hearing lip read. Actually we all do to some extent. Also my OH is not alone on having to take his hearing aids out when wearing a mask. He has tried different types but the loops pull hi aids out. Probably would be better with a face shield, but they are not as effective at preventing transmission.

I am deaf in one ear and can't wear a hearing aid so I lip read and I totally agree that the mask wearing has been difficult.

I made masks that have elastic round the head rather like the shields and they don't interfere with hearing aids (also boil wash and iron to sterilise them).

 

[Grianan]

I think it's a harder decision if you're in an age group who are less likely to suffer severe illness and spend time on social media listening to idiots.
A friend of ours has teenagers and she says things which I suspect must come from social media like the original scare about petrol pumps being a big spreader of covid there supposedly being a case of a death 3 days after vaccination due to a sudden increase in heart size etc etc. I think she wants to be young like them! There's a lot of bollo*** out there about vaccination and infertility too.
Our kids are both vacced. Despite both having masters in science subjects one still wavered a bit until we pointed out how crazy the theories were.

My kids are both doubly vaccinated now with Pfizer (17 and 23).

The heart thing is a real issue but usually occurs within 14 days of second vaccine and is treatable if you seek help after symptoms. We’re keeping close eye for next 10 days.

i spent Saturday trying to avoid maskless tourists at House of Bruar - where masks are still mandatory (Scotland). Amazing how many couples BOTH have asthma so can’t wear a mask.

I think Boris has made a mistake with this one. Masks are an easy tried and tested way of reducing infection - n seeking hers immunity he is risking three things - vaccine résistant mutations, a surge in long Covid infections across all age groups, thé virus devastating the older age groups again as AZ immunity wanes.

 

[AG 2602]

Don't rely on the vaccine giving your full protection; I know of a few people who have been double vaccinated, caught covid and are still suffering the medium-term effects of it. They have lost a lot of fitness and it took them several weeks just to be able to go up and down stairs without becomming out of breath. I know that they would have probably suffered a lot more without the vaccine but there appear to be far too many risks being taken by peeps who think that "Freedom day" means that the risk is reduced significantly. I know of more people infected and self-isolating in the last 30 days than I've known that have caught it or had so isolate since the pandemic started.

I don’t disagree I also know more people who have recently caught the virus. Three of my colleagues met up for business in Liverpool from various parts of the country. Met in a pub the night before the meeting to watch England V Germany whilst the rules were still in place.
They pre booked a table wore masks into the pub and sat at their table for the match.
All arrived home with the virus 1 30 years no jabs no symptoms 1 35 years 1 jab headache for 2 days 1 47 years loss of taste for two weeks apart from that nothing.
They passed it on to their wife’s and kids. Wife’s similar symptoms kids no symptoms.
I don’t believe mask wearing will stop the spread but they will help to top up land fill sites!

 

[69473]

I think the main concern for Retail business in towns and cities is convincing all parties its safe to visit. Reduced footfall for many high street operator's will bring closures.

 

[MattR]

I don’t disagree I also know more people who have recently caught the virus. Three of my colleagues met up for business in Liverpool from various parts of the country. Met in a pub the night before the meeting to watch England V Germany whilst the rules were still in place.
They pre booked a table wore masks into the pub and sat at their table for the match.
All arrived home with the virus 1 30 years no jabs no symptoms 1 35 years 1 jab headache for 2 days 1 47 years loss of taste for two weeks apart from that nothing.
They passed it on to their wife’s and kids. Wife’s similar symptoms kids no symptoms.
I don’t believe mask wearing will stop the spread but they will help to top up land fill sites!

Wearing masks slows the movement of the virus... one of several measures that seem to have been abandoned as this variant spreads rapidly. Shops and folk will be complaining when we go into the next lockdown but few will look back and acknowledge how they were responsible for the spread of the virus and the emergence of new variants.

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