Germany packed weather crap now. Who's brave enough for Spain

And yet the rate of people tested positive is twice that of UK :unsure:

Pete
Could that be because Spain are actively testing unlike the UK who are testing in dribs and drabs.....if you're lucky?
Dont test as many people and the infection rate will ultimately be lower?
Could be another manipulation of the true extent of the situation here in good old blighty :rolleyes:
 
No test kits anyway here on the south coast of uk some test centres like Warminster have even been closed I was told today
 
Could that be because Spain are actively testing unlike the UK who are testing in dribs and drabs.....if you're lucky?
Dont test as many people and the infection rate will ultimately be lower?
Could be another manipulation of the true extent of the situation here in good old blighty :rolleyes:
:giggler:

Then why is it that the UK has conducted more testing than Spain, France or Germany and most other EU countries. :unsure:


Pete
 
You are not understanding correctly, as that is not what I posted. Please feel free to read my post again. :)

Regards,

Jock. :)
Yes you stated you have vehicle breakdown cover (albeit there maybe greatly affected due to the pandemic) but no valid personal travel health insurance except presumably the EU card which will not be available from Jan 1st 2021 in countries that are on the FOC's advise of not to travel

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
:giggler:

Then why is it that the UK has conducted more testing than Spain, France or Germany and most other EU countries. :unsure:


Pete
I'm definitely no expert on this, and I may well be wrong, but from what I understand, there has been an element of double counting of the UK figures.
I think suavecarve is probably the man to answer this one 🤔.
 
As title says which is my thinking right now
Im in Vianden Luxembourg and will be here or in the area for another week

Plan was to go to the Mosel but weather has turned and its still busy

Im temped to do a month in Spain



Mad or what

Happy to consider other options go a month or more to burn

Mmmm
your going to get it, stay clean,and away from it. youve 19 chances of getting it. 'ar ya reet bor huw your gewin
ok.pj.
 
I'm definitely no expert on this, and I may well be wrong, but from what I understand, there has been an element of double counting of the UK figures.
I think suavecarve is probably the man to answer this one 🤔.

That was the ‘result of more accurate data collection and reporting processes recently being adopted within pillar 2’ – involving tests that take place outside hospitals, such as swab tests carried out at drive-through centres and care homes – and a ‘subsequent recalibration’ of data reported between March 29 and August 11


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/14/gove...tal-due-double-counting-13128241/?ito=cbshare

In Spain back in July........

MADRID (Reuters) - Spain’s COVID-19 death toll could be nearly 60% higher than the official figure of 28,432, according to an investigation by El Pais newspaper published on Sunday.

The country’s official death toll includes only people who were formally diagnosed with the novel coronavirus, not suspected cases who were never tested.

A lack of widespread testing, particularly in the early stages of the outbreak, means the official count could underestimate the virus’ toll, like in many other countries.


Pete
 
Last edited:
Bern in Germany 3 weeks now. Had 1 full day of rain and the rest sunshine!
Its 18 here today at Magdeburg, bright sunshine and sitting outside with a coffee. Thats warm enough for me at the minute without travelling for a few days to get sun.
16013713135845576240288777611791.jpg

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
I'm definitely no expert on this, and I may well be wrong, but from what I understand, there has been an element of double counting of the UK figures.
I think suavecarve is probably the man to answer this one 🤔.
precisely what Tykatem said however I would have put it like this.

2 different counting systems. The one with the dodgy count they had to readjust was for sending out tests and receiving or not receiving them back, sort of double counting or a fraud as some might say to make the figures look better.
The figures for counting daily infections can only really be counted as 1 positive test equates to 1 positive test. They are still in the process of working out how to distort those figures to fit the agenda of the day and the press havent caught them yet.

I woke up cynical this morning
 
We left Switzerland on Tuesday last week with the intention of a bit of southern France sunshine. Came via Annecy, Avignon. Gave up on any chance of weather and headed for Spain. Currently we are in Pineda de Mar. Sun is shining and only two motorhomes on sight. Very quite. (They close on the 12th)
 
Years ago i never had any breakdown cover..If i could not repair it my self i rang a garage,,BUSBY..
Totally agree however these new engines etc require lap tops etc to diagnose faults,. Those were the days when a ladies undergarments would get a Gardner (engine for non lorry drivers ) home 😀
 
Yes you stated you have vehicle breakdown cover (albeit there maybe greatly affected due to the pandemic) but no valid personal travel health insurance except presumably the EU card which will not be available from Jan 1st 2021 in countries that are on the FOC's advise of not to travel
I didn't state anything of the kind. I merely passed on the advice of my insurers, which was in line with the advice others had received from their insurers.

JockandRita said:
Having discussed the matter with my insurers NFU, and reading the same discussion matter from others, it's only travel insurance that may be null and void, should you travel against the FCO's advice for particular countries.
The only concern re motor vehicle insurance, was that due to Covid measures in some countries, any breakdown or recovery assistance may be greatly affected. :(
I thought I might be helping others by passing on that advice from my insurers. I certainly didn't expect my post to be scrutunised, with presumptions being made about what I might, or might not have done. Gordon Bennett! :Eeek:

I'm out of here. :(

Jock.
 
Totally agree however these new engines etc require lap tops etc to diagnose faults,. Those were the days when a ladies undergarments would get a Gardner (engine for non lorry drivers ) home 😀
And what were you doing wearing ladies undergarments in the cab..Some weird lorry drivers around back then.😁😁 BUSBY.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Had a Seddon Atki 401 left it running all night and the boss wondered why a valve burnt out oops he shouldn't be so tight lol.
 
:giggler:

Then why is it that the UK has conducted more testing than Spain, France or Germany and most other EU countries. :unsure:


Pete
& as I posted earlier it is of no use testing 500,000 people per day if you are only getting results each day for 28% of them or 140.000, within 24 hours .That means at the moment as per last Fridays figures 72% of all tests done each day have no results ? Where are they & when will they appear & will it be like here with a huge spike when they come to light?
 
& as I posted earlier it is of no use testing 500,000 people per day if you are only getting results each day for 28% of them or 140.000, within 24 hours .That means at the moment as per last Fridays figures 72% of all tests done each day have no results ? Where are they & when will they appear & will it be like here with a huge spike when they come to light?

I'm not sure where you get the figure of 28% from as the Government aims to return tests results within 48 hours of a swab being taken by officials at regional testing sites, mobile testing sites, satellite centres or NHS facilities. However, test results may take up to 72 hours to be returned for home test kits.
Spain does not give out figures over the weekend due to the difficulty in collecting correct data. Yesterdays figures came in at:- New cases... 31,785 & Deaths ..179

Pete

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
Been in Spain for 2 months now and where we live there has only been a few cases compared to where I have a house the U.K.
All the shops, bars and restaurants are open and everyone is going about there daily lives with obvious caution, masks and SD.

On travel insurance one of my wife’s friends was admitted to hospital on a non virus related issue on Tuesday and never gave her travel insurance a second thought, but it was void as she had arrived here 3 months ago, in breach of the FO travel ban, so she was charged €1100 plus for 1 night in hospital and extra for the drugs, doctor and nurses, she discharged herself as soon as she realised her error and is recuperating at home with her friends helping.
 
Been in Spain for 2 months now and where we live there has only been a few cases compared to where I have a house the U.K.
All the shops, bars and restaurants are open and everyone is going about there daily lives with obvious caution, masks and SD.

On travel insurance one of my wife’s friends was admitted to hospital on a non virus related issue on Tuesday and never gave her travel insurance a second thought, but it was void as she had arrived here 3 months ago, in breach of the FO travel ban, so she was charged €1100 plus for 1 night in hospital and extra for the drugs, doctor and nurses, she discharged herself as soon as she realised her error and is recuperating at home with her friends helping.
Why didn't she use her ehic card?
 
We're still going to Spain over christmas if we can.....safer than over here I think :unsure:
 
Been in Spain for 2 months now and where we live there has only been a few cases compared to where I have a house the U.K.
All the shops, bars and restaurants are open and everyone is going about there daily lives with obvious caution, masks and SD.

On travel insurance one of my wife’s friends was admitted to hospital on a non virus related issue on Tuesday and never gave her travel insurance a second thought, but it was void as she had arrived here 3 months ago, in breach of the FO travel ban, so she was charged €1100 plus for 1 night in hospital and extra for the drugs, doctor and nurses, she discharged herself as soon as she realised her error and is recuperating at home with her friends helping.
Had she not got E111 ? BUSBY.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 
We're still going to Spain over christmas if we can.....safer than over here I think :unsure:
Make sure you have an alternative to the European medical card if you are there beyond the year end or have deep pockets.
 
Make sure you have an alternative to the European medical card if you are there beyond the year end or have deep pockets.
From the NHS website read the last two lines.

Healthcare during the transition period


There will be no changes to healthcare access for UK nationals visiting or living in the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland before 31 December 2020.

You can continue to use your EHIC during this time, as you did before.

An EHIC is not a replacement for travel insurance. Make sure you have both before you travel.

You can continue to use your EHIC in the country you were visiting on 31 December 2020 for the duration of your visit to that country.
 
You can continue to use your EHIC in the country you were visiting on 31 December 2020 for the duration of your visit to that country.
The problem might be, convincing a Spanish Medical Authority of compliance with that ruling. :(

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
From the NHS website read the last two lines.

Healthcare during the transition period


There will be no changes to healthcare access for UK nationals visiting or living in the EU, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland before 31 December 2020.

You can continue to use your EHIC during this time, as you did before.

An EHIC is not a replacement for travel insurance. Make sure you have both before you travel.

You can continue to use your EHIC in the country you were visiting on 31 December 2020 for the duration of your visit to that country.
My apologies I had read that before but had a brain dead moment.

Subscribers  do not see these advertisements

 

Join us or log in to post a reply.

To join in you must be a member of MotorhomeFun

Join MotorhomeFun

Join us, it quick and easy!

Log in

Already a member? Log in here.

Latest journal entries

Back
Top