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French 'old' campsite for 85k euros .. Motorhome fun club site ????

Landy Andy said:
Do you think a site that is motorhomes only could survive in France with so many aires?
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Camping-car Parks seem to be doing OK and charging around €10 a night. But the only busy sites of their's I've seen are in interesting places. The ones with not much going for them are very quiet outside July and August.
 
Marty Gilly and Pup said:
More realistic with 100 members at a grand each. If it can still be used for camping that is. Still have work and costs to with bookings, problem solving and maintenance etc tho.
Mind you I might buy it as a retirement job. Got friends half an hour away. Hmmm
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10 years ago, when i retired, i would def have seriously considered it. we have a static about 90 mins away and pay £2000 a year site fees. the converted price is £68000, so its ONLY 68 people with a grand each as a start up ....lol

yes there will be ongoing costs, maintenance etc but for someone who could develop it as a business and improve the accommodation/house, i think its a great project.
 
Don't know how French tax would work, or the succession laws, as it would be in France even if all shareholders are British, but yeah I'd have a go at £100 but as someone else said it would be better at 100 investors at £1000 each, so you had a pot to work on.
 
DBK said:
Camping-car Parks seem to be doing OK and charging around €10 a night. But the only busy sites of their's I've seen are in interesting places. The ones with not much going for them are very quiet outside July and August.
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My thoughts exactly. Motorhomers are too tight to make a business of them unless you’ve some thing special to offer.
 
not a great idea to run it at a loss, but if it was then there would be less tax to pay etc. if things work the same as in the UK. Also, its an investment that could potentially increase in value. I dont think its going to be something that will work as a potential shared club site, based on the comments so far. as i said earlier, ten years ago before i invested in UK properties, i would have been all over this.

i am up for investing as a shareholder (up to £1k) though if anyone can come up with a business plan. I wonder if you could get a few statics on there aswell?
 
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It's an interesting idea, but can you imagine it working? Lots of people with different ideas, each one thinking "I'm a part owner, now it should go how I think". I'm on an aires in Tavira at the mo. 2 guys in the kiosk each day. Ground rent, taxes, bils. It's busy, but it's in a good location. The owners must be coining it. But that owner is not a group of investors investing in a low turnover region. It's a single minded highly financed companyin a sought after region. I like the idea, but so much could go wrong.
 
It's a lovely idea in an ideal world & a little bit tempted but in reality probably better if one or two Funsters bought it (or somewhere like it perhaps with more scope for larger numbers) then it would make a great friendly stopping off place for members (y)
 
Silver-Fox said:
I’d be in at 100 or 1000 if it is workable and viable ?
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As an idea I think it's great! BUT with so many members here, would it be an idea to go for something better? France yes, better area? but more pitches, clubhouse? Lots of potential investors here....Buying power! I'm interested.
Jim's input would be invaluable.
 
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There are stacks of places down that way with the same amount of land for a lot less. Owned out there for fifteen years now and the first thing that springs to mind is bureaucracy. Ownership might work better if a UK registered company was set up with shareholders and that purchased the property. IMHO I would stay well away from trying to set it up under French law. Then, who would run it. French employment laws are a nightmare too. One thing I would be confident in saying is, we would not make money from it from a property aspect.
 
There are 12 pitches making 4,380 pitch nights. Given that the winter monthsiare a virtual write-off and assuming the invested members would want to stay there, it probably doesn't leave many nights to sell to pay the running costs and local taxes.

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It isn't a pretty area and not a huge amount to do there. Apart from using it as a transit site on or way back from SW France etc. why else go there and why spend more than a couple of nights there?
 
And when the bills start arriving, and one of the “owners” can’t get on cos it’s full and a decision by consensus can’t be made as to how to operate the place cos there’s too many bosses, and when the grass needs cutting, and when........... sorry, but I can only see problems, the legal document would add another few grand as well, good luck but not for me ta(y)
 
Unfortunately just up the road from this property is La Forêt-sur-Sèvre where there is a lovely free aire which was once a municipal camp site (of roughly the same size). This is approx. 5 kms south west of Bressuire (which incidentally holds a two day classic car Grand Prix - free for spectators). Having FLT tendencies I know where I would rather spend the night. :oops:
 
Taran_Las said:
Unfortunately just up the road from this property is La Forêt-sur-Sèvre where there is a lovely free aire which was once a municipal camp site (of roughly the same size). This is approx. 5 kms south west of Bressuire (which incidentally holds a two day classic car Grand Prix - free for spectators). Having FLT tendencies I know where I would rather spend the night. :oops:
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Good local knowledge is always useful - looks like its not a viable option for a motorhome stopover if there is such a good free aire/facility not too far away :confused:

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If you care to Google , cheap land in France, there's loads of pieces of land far cheaper than this, down to about 5 grand and in far better places, some with a barn or lake which would be a far better bet.
 
Have a look at this, this is my favourite area, and not the cheapest by any means, but puts the op in perspective.
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Sorry that's come up with the general search, you will have to filter for land and price below 30000
 
Seems a lot of money for not a lot in the middle of nowhere.
 
Hi guys, only just seen this. We have investigated this before, we were looking to buy a cheap site in wales. Couldn't get the sums to work, I'll see if I can find them. It needs to be a very busy place with almost as many pitches as investors as it just gets messy. We also looked at buying and then doing timeshares on pitches, but again the returns are just not worth the grief.

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I'm willing to go with the flow if the idea for any plot gets off the ground.
 
Jim said:
Hi guys, only just seen this. We have investigated this before, we were looking to buy a cheap site in wales. Couldn't get the sums to work, I'll see if I can find them. It needs to be a very busy place with almost as many pitches as investors as it just gets messy. We also looked at buying and then doing timeshares on pitches, but again the returns are just not worth the grief.
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Yeah and being France makes it far worse, Aires everywhere, and different laws, and not being here you can't just nip over and have a look at what's happening.
 

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