Ford engine problems (2 Viewers)

[Miggs]

Friend of mine has a Benimar on a Ford platform, 2020, 12,000 miles.
He noticed lumpy tickover and loss of power at speed.
We assumed the notorious injectors and they were replaced (£2k), made absolutely no difference. Garage dug deeper and found very low compression on number one cylinder. It has been decided that an exchange engine at £8000 is best plan . If it were mine I would strip it and investigate but time is not on his side.
Seems Ford have forgotten how to make decent engines, I was reading about the horrendous failure rate of their Ecoboost range as well!

 

[Landy Andy]

Was chatting the other day to my best mate who is a mechanic. He has a non stop supply of Fords having replacement engines. Not good.

 

[Basildog]

It seems it’s not just Ford , many manufacturers seem to have problems these days as it seem along with pretty much everything else that is manufactured these days the quality is not there anymore.
I always try and buy decent brands but you can’t really trust a brand name anymore these days
I better go and have my nap before I get started

 

[chaser]

Was chatting the other day to my best mate who is a mechanic. He has a non stop supply of Fords having replacement engines. Not good.

So what is the problem, are they all on the same cylinder, ? Would new rings or whatever is causing the problem cure it rather than a whole engine.

 

[Landy Andy]

So what is the problem, are they all on the same cylinder, ? Would new rings or whatever is causing the problem cure it rather than a whole engine.

Different things with different engines. The current couple he is doing are both failed “wet belts”. Another new but pisspoor idea/design. And something that Ford themselves have no interest in. It’s always owner fault.
They are having problems with fitting reconditioned engines as they are poor, and very bad to deal with if any problems occur after fitting. He has just fitted one from Ivor Searle, who are very well know. Made a horrendous noise when first started. They were told by Ivor Searle to fit new timing parts to it (on new engine). Still horrendous noise. Then they were given a second engine, fitted that and now Ivor Searle are saying “nothing wrong” with the previous one, so are charging them for two engines. But they won’t be able to test run the other engine, so are talking crap, and mate has videos of the first engine making the noise.

Getting to a point where any replacement engines will be main dealer only, and we all know what means ££££££, so will just scrap lots of vehicles.

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[Sandancers]

Friend of mine has a Benimar on a Ford platform, 2020, 12,000 miles.
He noticed lumpy tickover and loss of power at speed.
We assumed the notorious injectors and they were replaced (£2k), made absolutely no difference. Garage dug deeper and found very low compression on number one cylinder. It has been decided that an exchange engine at £8000 is best plan . If it were mine I would strip it and investigate but time is not on his side.
Seems Ford have forgotten how to make decent engines, I was reading about the horrendous failure rate of their Ecoboost range as well!

I would ask the garage how they measured the compression. As if they measured it through a glowplug hole the loss in compression could be something as simple (and cheap) as the copper washer under the injector.

As per the video below. Mind, the video is about a different engine.

 

[The general]

Yes duratorg, puma engines where good .are ford engines still manufactured bin bridge end and transported to turkey ?

 

[Northernraider]

These new fandangled environmentally friendly engines are shit.


12k miles is a disgrace

 

[Richard n Ann]

Might be the cylinder head gasket

 

[chaser]

Different things with different engines. The current couple he is doing are both failed “wet belts”. Another new but pisspoor idea/design. And something that Ford themselves have no interest in. It’s always owner fault.
They are having problems with fitting reconditioned engines as they are poor, and very bad to deal with if any problems occur after fitting. He has just fitted one from Ivor Searle, who are very well know. Made a horrendous noise when first started. They were told by Ivor Searle to fit new timing parts to it (on new engine). Still horrendous noise. Then they were given a second engine, fitted that and now Ivor Searle are saying “nothing wrong” with the previous one, so are charging them for two engines. But they won’t be able to test run the other engine, so are talking crap, and mate has videos of the first engine making the noise.

Getting to a point where any replacement engines will be main dealer only, and we all know what means ££££££, so will just scrap lots of vehicles.

You can't get your head around these ford engine problems, they used to be unbreakable, and now they are as they are made of chocolate . We have fordson tractors here that havnt seen a spanner in over 50 years.
Where did it all go wrong

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[Sandancers]

You can't get your head around these ford engine problems, they used to be unbreakable, and now they are as they are made of chocolate . We have fordson tractors here that havnt seen a spanner in over 50 years.
Where did it all go wrong

When accountants became more important than engineers.

 

[neilydun]

You can't get your head around these ford engine problems, they used to be unbreakable, and now they are as they are made of chocolate . We have fordson tractors here that havnt seen a spanner in over 50 years.
Where did it all go wrong

It went wrong @ Euro6 !

 

[Landy Andy]

If the injectors were fitted fairly recently then they should come out ok. If so a proper compression test should be done, and then apply an air supply to a cylinder if low compression found. The air will escape from either the exhaust, the inlet manifold (air intake), the oil filler, or another cylinder via its removed injector hole. This will indicate where the fault is.

 

[Jo662]

It seems to me that manufacturers , the last 5-10 years , have had a dead line forced on them to produce ev’s ,so new diesel and petrol engines, to meet emission targets,have suffered with poor design.

 

[Landy Andy]

You can't get your head around these ford engine problems, they used to be unbreakable, and now they are as they are made of chocolate . We have fordson tractors here that havnt seen a spanner in over 50 years.
Where did it all go wrong

It went wrong when people wanted max power out of a small cubic capacity engine, whilst also trying to be “green”. All this planet saving crap is killing engines, and as so is being far less “green” than they claim.
Your tractor works and always works because it’s simple and basic. No EGR, no throttle body, no add blue, no cat, no DPF. Just simple suck, squeeze, bang, blow.

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[David and Sally]

No EGR, no throttle body, no add blue, no cat, no DPF. Just simple suck, squeeze, blow.

Did you miss out Bang?

 

[Landy Andy]

Did you miss out Bang?

Corrected

 

[David and Sally]

Bloody tech. Swapped my bang for a blow.

You still need a blow……………oooeeerrr Mrs

 

[Coolcats]

It went wrong when people wanted max power out of a small cubic capacity engine, whilst also trying to be “green”. All this planet saving crap is killing engines, and as so is being far less “green” than they claim.
Your tractor works and always works because it’s simple and basic. No EGR, no throttle body, no add blue, no cat, no DPF. Just simple suck, squeeze, blow.

engines are more complex these days and whilst the simple analogy you make fits most diesel and petrol engines these days tolerances are much tighter.

I have a 1800 for cylinder engine which produces 200bhp it needs a bit of TLC when starting and doesn’t want to be driven until it reaches 40c even then it needs consideration until it reaches normal operating temp, then you can go nuts with it it revs to 8,200 rpm back in the mid 90’s that engine would be about £10k new

Thinking about more modern engines they do have to be more eco-much finer tolerances for not burning oil and other emissions. I don’t think they are ponies but whilst a view taken is you don’t have to run in a modern engine, I think it’s actually the opposite, sho it mechanics sympathy and slowly increase power and higher rev’s after a few thousand miles. There will be some who disagree but never had an issue on.any vehicle I have treated this way.

 

[Landy Andy]

I also question some of these very very thin oils these days, which in my opinion aren’t chosen for the health/longevity of the engine.

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[Coolcats]

I also question some of these very very thin oils these days, which in my opinion aren’t chosen for the health/longevity of the engine.

possibly but wouldn’t use the old 20-50 Duckhams oil on a modern engine the viscosity would probably blow it up

Have to say just mentioning Duckhams makes me recall the smell of opening a fresh can !

 

[jerryz]

FORD =FRAUD

 

[Coolcats]

FORD =FRAUD

Harsh

 

[jerryz]

Harsh

Based on Experience of Fords over 50 years some older ones were good Cortinas etc but modern ones are badly engineered , poorly built and thirsty and planned to fall apart when outside warranty like German cars

 

[gus-lopez]

When accountants became more important than engineers.

The same problem that Boeing are now finding.

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[Coolcats]

Based on Experience of Fords over 50 years some older ones were good Cortinas etc but modern ones are badly engineered , poorly built and thirsty and planned to fall apart when outside warranty like German cars

You can’t mean the Pinto engine ! Horrible thing

 

[Sue and Rick]

Peugeot use some ford engines, as do other manufacturers.
A neighbour just had his wet belt replaced ( before the usual disintegration) £1500.
Included loads of other bits including oil pick up filter. Probably just incase the old wet belt had already started to fall apart. Give me chains anyday.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Peugeot use some ford engines, as do other manufacturers.
A neighbour just had his wet belt replaced ( before the usual disintegration) £1500.
Included loads of other bits including oil pick up filter. Probably just incase the old wet belt had already started to fall apart. Give me chains anyday.

Yes my Peugeot van uses the ford 2.2 euro 5 and cam chain

 

[meanders]

Those of us with very long memories will remember the three bearing cranks in the early Cortina's etc that bent under pressure. Then the Essex engine with it's plastic timing cogs that just fell apart and the early Transit gearbox with Nylon gears that just stripped... Yes, Ford have always built unbreakable engines... Not.

 

[Landy Andy]

The Ford Tdci 2.2 and 2.4 on the Defenders are a regular failure item too.