Fiat Comfort Matic Specialist wanted

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As my post says Im looking for a Comfortmatic gearbox specialist that deals with these issues all day everyday

Prepaid to travel for the right guy although Im based Milton Keynes

Must be an independent that knows his stuff

Not interested in Fiat Professional set up

Who do you know that's good

Cheers
GB
 
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Has nobody ever thought about or had quoted for converting back to a manual. If as said the box ect is the same as the manual. Remove the additional parts for comformatic. Add a pedal and away you go.
Surly a couple of hundred quid :p
 
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Fragle said:
Has nobody ever thought about or had quoted for converting back to a manual. If as said the box ect is the same as the manual. Remove the additional parts for comformatic. Add a pedal and away you go.
Surly a couple of hundred quid :p
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Doubt it is that quick and simple. Not only do you need to add the mechanicals of the gear lever mechanism and clutch pedal levers, stripping out the comfortmatic clutch robotics, but there is the whole integration of the various ECU's to overcome. To operate correctly the comfortmatic ECU is "talking" to the engine, braking, axles and all sorts to understand when it might need to change up / down, hill start, and so on and will be partly controlling engine, brakes and similar (hence some referring to brake problems causing comfortmatic issues).
 
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Kannon Fodda said:
Doubt it is that quick and simple. Not only do you need to add the mechanicals of the gear lever mechanism and clutch pedal levers, stripping out the comfortmatic clutch robotics, but there is the whole integration of the various ECU's to overcome. To operate correctly the comfortmatic ECU is "talking" to the engine, braking, axles and all sorts to understand when it might need to change up / down, hill start, and so on and will be partly controlling engine, brakes and similar (hence some referring to brake problems causing comfortmatic issues).
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Ok pedal and ecu

In reality the loom probably not an issue as they probably use one loom for both.

If you’re facing a large comformatic bill it’s certainly a question I’d be asking just to remove the whole fear you have spending so much money with no real guarantee of a fix
 
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Fragle said:
Ok pedal and ecu

In reality the loom probably not an issue as they probably use one loom for both.

If you’re facing a large comformatic bill it’s certainly a question I’d be asking just to remove the whole fear you have spending so much money with no real guarantee of a fix
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Plus gear leaver, gear cables, linkages, mounting brackets for gear leaver (Comformatic is just a complicated switch) and all the bits that go with them, cables alone are over £300 for a manual so probably so thoes bits probably heading towards a grand.
I think you would be looking at quite a few grand to convert to manual.

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Lenny HB said:
Plus gear leaver, gear cables, linkages, mounting brackets for gear leaver (Comformatic is just a complicated switch) and all the bits that go with them, cables alone are over £300 for a manual so probably so thoes bits probably heading towards a grand.
I think you would be looking at quite a few grand to convert to manual.
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I have been thinking about a manual conversion using second hand gear change/ clutch hydraulic components from a breakers yard. As said it's the electronics that are the problem.
DP
 
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Lenny HB said:
Plus gear leaver, gear cables, linkages, mounting brackets for gear leaver (Comformatic is just a complicated switch) and all the bits that go with them, cables alone are over £300 for a manual so probably so thoes bits probably heading towards a grand.
I think you would be looking at quite a few grand to convert to manual.
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I’ve often thought of this and whether anyone has had it done by a competent person/firm and has had good results, if someone could do it for say £3k surely it would be a viable alternative to getting the comfortmatic fixed only to maybe go again a few years later!
As an aside and maybe dunnah01 can answer this, now my truck is now over 47k with no issues, and I’d like it to do the same again with no issues, what could I possibly do to do this?
Change clutch?
Change/inspect flywheel?
Replace seals?
Replace fluid?

Anything else? And then in theory I should be good to go again?

In a nutshell I’m a big believer of preventative measures to get me there and back including taking any major spares that will keep me moving, if only to the nearest competent garage, and at some point I’d like to do turkey and Morocco (yes it’s probably at least 3 years away) but I don’t want the fiasco that has just happened in another thread, I’d if I can prevent 💩 happening, I will.👍
 
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Lenny HB said:
Most Fiat Professional dealers don't even understand Comformatic, no chance with an in dependant they don't even know how to change the clutch fluid neither do a lot of Fiat Professionals.

Only one place to go and they are a Fiat Professional, Adams Morey at Portsmouth, the service manager runs a Comformatic himself.
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So where do all the NHS ambulance trusts go for their maintenance?
 
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I know there are lots on here who are satisfied with this gearbox but from the amount of failures why was this gearbox ever invented , why not a proper tested full auto ?
 
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chaser said:
I know there are lots on here who are satisfied with this gearbox but from the amount of failures why was this gearbox ever invented , why not a proper tested full auto ?
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Probably along the lines of the merc shift, to cut emissions as they are usually more efficient than a slushy auto..
The problem is people still drive them as a full auto when they are an automated manual box, bet nobody keeps the full revs on when they change gear in their manual motorhome!

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Has nobody ever thought about or had quoted for converting back to a manual. If as said the box ect is the same as the manual. Remove the additional parts for comformatic. Add a pedal and away you go.
Fragle said:
Surly a couple of hundred quid :p
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DP+JAY said:
I have been thinking about a manual conversion using second hand gear change/ clutch hydraulic components from a breakers yard. As said it's the electronics that are the problem.
DP
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WESTY66 said:
I’ve often thought of this and whether anyone has had it done by a competent person/firm and has had good results, if someone could do it for say £3k surely it would be a viable alternative to getting the comfortmatic fixed only to maybe go again a few years later!
As an aside and maybe dunnah01 can answer this, now my truck is now over 47k with no issues, and I’d like it to do the same again with no issues, what could I possibly do to do this?
Change clutch?
Change/inspect flywheel?
Replace seals?
Replace fluid?

Anything else? And then in theory I should be good to go again?

In a nutshell I’m a big believer of preventative measures to get me there and back including taking any major spares that will keep me moving, if only to the nearest competent garage, and at some point I’d like to do turkey and Morocco (yes it’s probably at least 3 years away) but I don’t want the fiasco that has just happened in another thread, I’d if I can prevent 💩 happening, I will.👍
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But it would be better to sell the auto and go for a manual van, there is a 3-6k premium on auto vans so by changing the auto to a manual not only will you be spending a few grand on converting it you would also be losing out on 3-6k+…

Two exactly the same motorhomes one manual one auto, the auto will be 6k more…
 
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Just smiffy said:
Has nobody ever thought about or had quoted for converting back to a manual. If as said the box ect is the same as the manual. Remove the additional parts for comformatic. Add a pedal and away you go.






But it would be better to sell the auto and go for a manual van, there is a 3-6k premium on auto vans so by changing the auto to a manual not only will you be spending a few grand on converting it you would also be losing out on 3-6k+…

Two exactly the same motorhomes one manual one auto, the auto will be 6k more…
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Never ever seen one like mine, Carthago i49 LE 16 plate 3.0L with a manual gearbox!
You wouldn’t necessarily be losing it Gary if the comfortmatic was knackered, probably just an offset in losses.
If mine was knackered and it was 5k to repair the comfortmatic or I could professionally get it put to manual for 5k I’d spend the cash on the manual conversion, if nothing else but just to future proof myself.
I also get it that some peeps like your good self haven’t got the fortune to choose👍
 
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I'm thinking of opening a campsite as near as possible to Adam Morley looks like it will be busy all year round

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Lenny HB said:
I thought most Ambulances were Auto.
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Looking on this website, the sprinter ones are auto but the ducato ones are manual.
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WESTY66 said:
I’ve often thought of this and whether anyone has had it done by a competent person/firm and has had good results, if someone could do it for say £3k surely it would be a viable alternative to getting the comfortmatic fixed only to maybe go again a few years later!
As an aside and maybe dunnah01 can answer this, now my truck is now over 47k with no issues, and I’d like it to do the same again with no issues, what could I possibly do to do this?
Change clutch?
Change/inspect flywheel?
Replace seals?
Replace fluid?
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The only preventative maintenance really is changing the DOT 4 clutch fluid and Dexron III hydraulic fluid plus checking the wiring loom is not close to chafing on anything. These fluid changes and a KISS point reset should see you OK for many more miles. The clutch itself should be good for 100k+ miles so changing it would be a costly approach to preventative maintenance.
 
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Riverbankannie said:
Looking on this website, the sprinter ones are auto but the ducato ones are manual.
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Probably depends on the local authority.

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WESTY66 said:
Never ever seen one like mine, Carthago i49 LE 16 plate 3.0L with a manual gearbox!
You wouldn’t necessarily be losing it Gary if the comfortmatic was knackered, probably just an offset in losses.
If mine was knackered and it was 5k to repair the comfortmatic or I could professionally get it put to manual for 5k I’d spend the cash on the manual conversion, if nothing else but just to future proof myself.
I also get it that some peeps like your good self haven’t got the fortune to choose👍
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Which is good if you are going to keep it for some considerable time and can take a loss on resale, but I agree would help the auto anxiety….

My budget for a motorhome/camper is always going to be 20-25k if I’m lucky….
 
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Also buying secondhand you never know if the previous owner did a sneaky partX as the auto box had a few “issues“ and they didn’t fancy dealing with it.
 
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chaser said:
So in theory then, can you stick it in ,say third gear by hand and get yourself to a garage.
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Unfortunately there's no way to get back to neutral even if the ecu & tcu would let you start the engine so unless you're OK with stalling the engine to stop then probably not worth having a go
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Presumably if anyone bought an auto it was because they wanted one so why would they put a manual in?

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dunnah01 said:
Unfortunately there's no way to get back to neutral even if the ecu & tcu would let you start the engine so unless you're OK with stalling the engine to stop then probably not worth having a go
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This was only a suggestion to get the van to a garage but apparently it can't be put in gear so it doesn't occur.
 
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