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Ducato 9 Speed Auto Gearbox Overheating (2 Viewers)
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They have transfer box on the back of gearbox to provide front and rear , and also high low range.
If you are interested there's an interesting 'post' about the ZF gearbox on Wikipedia. Here's the link:
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ZF 9HP transmission - Wikipedia
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According to this write up I didn't realise the 9HP was built 100% in America, also it might answer the question why Chrysler have had problems with the box as they make their own 9HP under license themselves so could this be the reason for reliability issues?
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I would like to add to the original thread, I had exactly the same issue in southern Germany in September. It was fine once cooled down, then drove about 700 miles home without further incident. Booked in with local fiat professionals and they apparently had to wait around 4 weeks for a special tool to check the gearbox level!. Once checked they said it was half a litre low, they topped it up after checking quality of oil & carried out some sort of update. No further faults & have done another 1500 miles so far (currently in Spain) fingers crossed 
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Can't help noticing it's the same box in a FIat 500 as in a Ducato van - how times change 
Don't VW put the same DSG in Polos, Crafters and 350bhp Golfs?Can't help noticing it's the same box in a FIat 500 as in a Ducato van - how times change
The ZF8 goes in cars from 150bhp to 1000bhp.
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Yeah - that's because they're all behemoths nowadays
The Golf R is only 315hp.
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Wow! Dethleffs factory was affected with all motorhomes awaiting delivery! The insurers paid out but insisted they 'roof' all stock storage areas! (Acres of roofs!!)
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Thanks, is it from a recognised converter?
4 weeks for a tool!!! Couldn't they drain and measure how much came out then put it back in?I would like to add to the original thread, I had exactly the same issue in southern Germany in September. It was fine once cooled down, then drove about 700 miles home without further incident. Booked in with local fiat professionals and they apparently had to wait around 4 weeks for a special tool to check the gearbox level!. Once checked they said it was half a litre low, they topped it up after checking quality of oil & carried out some sort of update. No further faults & have done another 1500 miles so far (currently in Spain) fingers crossed
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Computer said no !
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Good YouTube break down of box here.
Apparently not!!! In the end I called them on a Friday & was told they still haven’t received it, I then contacted fiat uk and miraculously on the Monday it had arrived!
Just updating everyone on the ZF replacement gearbox for our new (8 months old) Sonic. I had a surprise message on 4th January saying the gearbox had arrived. The techies had started prepping the vehicle the day before (3rd Jan.), and on the 5th I got another message saying the vehicle was ready for collection. I picked it up on Monday 8th and have given it a couple of short test runs over the past week, probably covering a couple of hundred miles, and I'm pleased that all seems well. Long may that continue (he says with fingers crossed!).
The next hurdle will be to update the maps on the Uconnect 10 - a task that I started looking into 4 months ago when the vehicle broke down!
The next hurdle will be to update the maps on the Uconnect 10 - a task that I started looking into 4 months ago when the vehicle broke down!
Fingers crossed for you
. We are currently in Wissant to catch ferry home today.We have done around 3000miles since the gear oil top up & update with no further faults so hoping its sorted for good.
. We are currently in Wissant to catch ferry home today.We have done around 3000miles since the gear oil top up & update with no further faults so hoping its sorted for good.
Hi all. You might remember I picked up a new Sonic last May, after waiting 18 months. Five thousand miles later, in Aug. '23, the ZF9-speed gearbox failed in Belgium. The vehicle was off the road for 4 months, and a new gearbox was fitted in January this year. If that wasn't bad enough on a brand new vehicle, it's just happened again. Less than a mile away from the house, whilst heading for France last Thursday, exactly the same symptoms kicked in and the vehicle now languishes in the pound at the Fiat Professional dealership once more. The techies are at a loss as to why this has happened yet again. Come on Fiat! What's wrong with you? The vehicle isn't a year old yet!!!
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Hi 125BEER. That's the million dollar question. The techies that carried out the gearbox replacement (and analysis) didn't know what had gone wrong with the original box, and Fiat claimed to not know either. Still a mystery.Sorry for your yet another failure but do you know what happened to the original box they replaced...?
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The same problem again?, this just blows my mind.
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