Don’t use P&O

[BILL 875]

P & O May have made a £100 mil loss last year but paid out £275 mil in profits so not to shabby a profit, DP World tried to buy all the major ports on the west coast of the USA a few years ago the US told them to take a hike so that didnt happen, i wont be using them in the future either. Bill

 

[stewartwebr]

We are booked on a crossing in June from Hull. Usually use DFDS from Newcastle but it is fully booked. Doesn't feel right using them now but no alternative other than drive all the way from Edinburgh to Dover. The right thing to do would be to cancel but being honest I will probably stick with it. However, shall refrain from any other bookings in the future.

 

[David and Sally]

Goverment will do nothing about this because the parent company who owns P&O are the major share holder in the new Freeport’s popping up all over the UK. So in short some Tory MPs are share holders getting back headers from there mates.

Bit of a stab in the dark there. Way off the mark and really just a political jibe.

 

[Nothern Soul]

Facts are facts very few people will not use P&O in the future if the price is right. We all look at the bottom line it’s how it is. Yes political but honest unlike this government.

 

[David and Sally]

Yes political but honest unlike this government.

There you go again. Putting a political dig in something that is irrelevant.

The govt didn’t do this.

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[Nothern Soul]

Ok this is my last reply to this sorry if the truth offends you. However the government rejected a bill/law in the House of Commons to stop things like this happening. So yes it is their fault, go do some reading and educate yourself regarding this issue. The pride of Rotterdam has been crewed by Philippino and Portuguese for some years on £4 an hour unions have been attempting to stop this with Zero results. We are not Dubai we treat workers and people with equal respect.
If I have caused you any upset I apologise.

 

[David and Sally]

go do some reading and educate yourself regarding this issue.
If I have caused you any upset I apologise.

Suggest you read Rule 1

Thanks. Not upset, just can’t see why some have to put their political digs into everything. The matter of foreign crews and other company governance has been going on for decades and under governments of all shades. It’s not only down to this one.


Sorry Nothern Soul just spotted you are new to us. Take the above with a pinch of salt

 

[Wabs]

Might be more effective to boycott PO cruises. In reality we need the ferries to compete with other carriers to keep prices down.

P and O cruises are a different company, they separated ten years ago.

 

[Wabs]

Ok this is my last reply to this sorry if the truth offends you. However the government rejected a bill/law in the House of Commons to stop things like this happening. So yes it is their fault, go do some reading and educate yourself regarding this issue. The pride of Rotterdam has been crewed by Philippino and Portuguese for some years on £4 an hour unions have been attempting to stop this with Zero results. We are not Dubai we treat workers and people with equal respect.
If I have caused you any upset I apologise.

Bit harsh.

 

[VXman]

The world takes all sorts..if everyone agreed with your way of thinking the whole world would grind to a halt due to lack of sense.
Seriously think what you are saying. Asking people to boycott a business and make things worse.
They go bust would you be happy ?

On the other hand patronise companies with no moral integrity and they will think you like the way they do business and continue to operate in that manner - or even encourage them to do worse.

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[VXman]

P and O cruises are a different company, they separated ten years ago.

All owned by DP World though - so arm of the same parent company.

 

[Redken]

800 workers sacked to save £100m doesn’t add up, they would have to be earning £125k each and the blacklegs nothing to make those savings. Perhaps it’s more to do with the £270m paid out to shareholders in dividends whilst U.K. taxpayers have paid them £millions during covid. They are taking us for fools don’t use them.

 

[Wabs]

All owned by DP World though - so arm of the same parent company.

Yes , but because you have an issue with your Virgin mobile bill, would not stop you flying to the States with Virgin Atlantic would it.

 

[Spriddler]

On the other hand patronise companies with no moral integrity and they will think you like the way they do business and continue to operate in that manner - or even encourage them to do worse.

I agree with that. However, businesses know from experience people will still buy products if they are at the 'right' price, e.g. clothes and trainers from Bangladeshi sweat shops to give just one well known example.

 

[Tombola]

On the other hand patronise companies with no moral integrity and they will think you like the way they do business and continue to operate in that manner - or even encourage them to do worse.

doesnt work in an economic level though.
did you stop buying dyson when theymoved,
what about honda, no gennies ?
Ford
Vauxhall
Loyds of London
I could go on, 400+ companies moved all or part of their operations from here since 2019
are we gonna boycott them all

hypocritical if you ask me , until you have looked at your own dealing with every one

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[Beltie]

Didn't realise.

I've only used the Hull/Zeebrugge route once.
Too expensive for my taste so after that we used Dover/ Dunkirk with DSDF.
The saving over Hull gave us £300 of diesel we would have had to budget for.
Took about 6 hours to get to Dover as opposed to 1hr to Hull but well worth the drive

Might be more effective to boycott PO cruises. In reality we need the ferries to compete with other carriers to keep prices down.

Completely different company David. Now owned by Carnival Cruise Lines.

 

[Tombola]

800 workers sacked to save £100m doesn’t add up, they would have to be earning £125k each and the blacklegs nothing to make those savings. Perhaps it’s more to do with the £270m paid out to shareholders in dividends whilst U.K. taxpayers have paid them £millions during covid. They are taking us for fools don’t use them.

you dont know if it is part of a larger restructure?
the way you are talking the whole world would be a mess.

talk about "dummies and pram throwing", I prefer to analyse and see if its right

Union rep past life maybe ??? and anme like RED KEN ??

 

[funflair]

800 workers sacked to save £100m doesn’t add up, they would have to be earning £125k each and the blacklegs nothing to make those savings. Perhaps it’s more to do with the £270m paid out to shareholders in dividends whilst U.K. taxpayers have paid them £millions during covid. They are taking us for fools don’t use them.

I think you are mixing up the £100m losses suffered by P&O with the £270m share payout by the parent company.

 

[Spriddler]

800 workers sacked to save £100m doesn’t add up, they would have to be earning £125k each.

The cost of employing someone is far greater than their salary by the time you add Nat. Ins., pension contributions, sick, maternity/paternity and holiday pay, training, compliance with H&S regs, uniform, protective equipment, recruitment costs...............

 

[Tombola]

Where are the agency workers based they are employing anyone know?

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[The Dotties]

Might be more effective to boycott PO cruises. In reality we need the ferries to compete with other carriers to keep prices down.

P&O cruises are operated by a totally different company. No connection to the ferries.


Beaten to it by DuxDeluxe. Again!

 

[David and Sally]

P&O cruises are operated by a totally different company. No connection to the ferries.

Well boycott them anyway. Guilty by association.

 

[Wabs]

Well boycott them anyway. Guilty by association.

Why not

 

[Spriddler]

I'm old enough to be getting deja-vu of the mid 70's and early 80's......

Influx to U.K. of Ugandan Asians fleeing from that tyrant Idi Amin.
Inflation rate up to 17%.
Mort int. rate up to 14%
Miners' strike.
Energy crisis - 3 day week.
Union provoked strikes, sit-ins and picketing at Ford, Grunwick, Triumph Motorcycles, Dock workers, Post Office staff................
1978/9 Winter of discontent.
1980 recession resulting in record high unemployment level. Rising to 11.9% in 1983. (4.9% in 2021)

(I wonder if we're heading for the house prices crash and negative equity issues of the late 80's?).

 

[15edward]

Unions are a shadow of what they were then with a shadow of the influence they had.
I remember in those days I went to Worcester Cathedral ( of all places) and listened to Heseltine ( of all Tories) arguing that Capitalism had no moral boundaries at all. Market Market Forces would balance everything

so here we are

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[Spriddler]

Unions are a shadow of what they were then with a shadow of the influence they had.
I remember in those days I went to Worcester Cathedral ( of all places) and listened to Heseltine ( of all Tories) arguing that Capitalism had no moral boundaries at all. Market Market Forces would balance everything

so here we are

Ah, but he was a wealthy politician.

 

[dash300]

All owned by DP World though - so arm of the same parent company.

I thought they were owned Carnival Corporation & Plc a British-American cruise operator HQ'd in the UK and US.

 

[Gizmouk]

Sadly avoiding using p&o isn't going to help people get from cairnryan to Larne and back
I feel for the workers and hope they get what their due but it's one of life's realities life goes on

Stenaline are just up the road to P&O at Cairnryan.

 

[Gizmouk]

Yes , but because you have an issue with your Virgin mobile bill, would not stop you flying to the States with Virgin Atlantic would it.

Comparing apples with pears.
Virgin Atlantic is owned by Virgin Group and 49% Delta Airlines.
Virgin Mobile is owned by Liberty Global.

The only link is they both lease the Virgin brand from Virgin Group. Where Virgin Group is wholly owned by Branson.

 

[busby]

It's a sign of the times........... I often hope for some competition against the high price / low service from B.F. but can't see it happening !!

BF a bit pricey but service is excellent in my experience,,BUSBY.

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