Doc on tour, France, Spain, Morroco.

[Carol]

Adhd itself isn't but often adhd sufferers have other conditions that are classed as mental illnesses , I was offered tests for autism etc when I was younger but I refused as I didn't want the stigma ...I never really used to tell folk till In my 30's
My son however has had the tests and Is on the spectrum

Fortunately now Tam think most of the stigma has gone and lots more understanding, one of the big things I did not mention in my previous post is anxiety which can be really bad but being aware of it and the triggers help a lot. You will always get those who dismiss these things and say we never had that just got on with it, but now more people are understanding , things, as with you sharing it all helps others.

scotzsue sleep deprivation is a awful part of my grandsons symptoms but cannabis oil for that can help a bit.

 

[Northernraider]

Fortunately now Tam think most of the stigma has gone and lots more understanding, one of the big things I did not mention in my previous post is anxiety which can be really bad but being aware of it and the triggers help a lot. You will always get those who dismiss these things and say we never had that just got on with it, but now more people are understanding , things, as with you sharing it all helps others.

scotzsue sleep deprivation is a awful part of my grandsons symptoms but cannabis oil for that can help a bit.

Yes it helped a bit when I did research years back in to who had adhd , Einstein etc and many others .
I've had the " that didn't exist " etc comments for a long time too.

 

[Minxy]

I never saw it

I did, nothing in it that hadn't already been said so just going over old ground about bringing stuff over for you. No one made him, he offered.

Don't worry about it.

 

[15edward]

My granddaughter neuro diverse very clever girl Absolutjey crippled with anxiety school refuser totally distressed every morning etc etc
Those on the spectrum 40% more likely to suffer from anxiety
Strongest antIdepressants ADHD drug and beta blockers

Now with that cocktail dealing with her mental illness we see our Asd girl

 

[Northernraider]

Paul has sent me what he wanted to say via WhatsApp.

I've read it and I understand a lot of it, I will post it up later when I'm out the sun as I struggle to see the screen easily .

The whole thing is a mess , I think there's been a lot of misunderstanding on both sides and the timing of me being hit with it all hasn't helped.

I'll post it later .

Meantime let's just leave it for now

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[JockandRita]

Yes they were aware , garry certainly was ...he told me himself he doesn't understand mental illness and has little empathy with it. Jackie also fully aware but still shit stirring

She's on dave n marshas polarsteps everyday lately yet not prior to the last few weeks

Strange that eh


Anyway that ship has sailed , you're correct everyone needs friends but fairweather friends that bail during hard times can actually be worse than not having any.

I've said many times I'm not the easiest person to get along with and I can fully understand people needing timeout or space etc etc but I prefer someone to be direct and just say that rather than ignore or distance which then makes my mind try to solve the problem.


Jackie's lies I can't forgive I'm afraid and whilst I can understand garry perhaps being fooled I though he knew me better than to just believe it without talking to me.


Paul is a different story I've no idea what his problem is other than getting upset about bringing the part over for me ....I tried talking to him about it I even apologised for any hurt caused or misunderstanding and he just completely dismissed it .

His choice and makes a complete mockery of all the stoic stuff he kept telling me

Jesus Christ Tam!!! Can we give it a rest please???

Paul has sent me what he wanted to say via WhatsApp.

I've read it and I understand a lot of it, I will post it up later when I'm out the sun as I struggle to see the screen easily .

The whole thing is a mess , I think there's been a lot of misunderstanding on both sides and the timing of me being hit with it all hasn't helped.

I'll post it later .

Meantime let's just leave it for now

We don't want to know, as it's between you and Paul/them.

Best regards,

Jock.

 

[Northernraider]

Jesus Christ Tam!!! Can we give it a rest please???

We don't want to know, as it's between you and Paul/them.

Jock ...with respect if you don't want to know then you don't have to read it.

Paul asked me to post it up because he wanted to air his side of it . Which is fair enough.

 

[Al n Val]

Jock

if you don’t want to know then simply scroll on by

Have you thought Tam might want to get it off his chest as well and his only way is on here

Seems he has to please others first before himself f.f.s

 

[Cookieboy68]

And it's Northernraider's thread

 

[Grummyb]

Tam ive kept out of the whole sorry thing with you and the others but after your comment about people beliving your a conman or a thief my take is this. anyone who has believed what has been said about will have made the decision not to read your threads so no point getting upset about it and trying to put your side because they have already p****d off however everyone who is still here and reading the threads will realise its just handbags in the playground and will continue to support you and be either virtual frinds like me or real frinds if they have met you (which hopefully i will 1 day) I know its easy for me to say but try and put it behind you most on here will be rooting for you.

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[Northernraider]

I'm trying to do the right thing.


Paul contacted me because I had said I didn't fully understand what his problem was with me ....so he has told me and because he couldn't post it up here he asked me to do it.

As I said I've read it , he makes a few fair points , it's clear there's been a lot of misunderstandings on both sides , maybe there should have been more discussion perhaps on the phone or via text rather than posts on here which were missed or misinterpreted I don't know, some of the things he's said I wasn't even aware I did or said , other things were a result if feeling cornered, betrayed etc. As I said perhaps timing also played a part, I'd just received the text I got from garry and then Paul announced he was cutting ties etc .. I was stressed ,upset and confused. As I said the whole thing is a big mess.
In my defence I didn't expect Paul to rush/ruin his holiday to deliver the parts to me super quick , I misunderstood when he said he'd see me soon etc , from previous conversations I thought he was going to be heading south faster than he obviously intended too. He misunderstood my comment saying he moved further south quicker 2 years ago as an attack when I didn't intend it to be.

Anyway as I said there's been many misunderstandings ....I can't go through all of them its just going to be confusing as hell. Bottom line is I was always grateful for the help I was given and I did make that clear. I was also grateful for the help collecting the part for me and bringing it over etc ..... I guess we both just didn't think of the timing and logistics of it as I'm already in to my second month and on my return trip back to Spain and he's only heading out so it probably wasn't the best idea to do it this way. But the stress of having no brakes and various other issues clouded that.

Once again I apologise if things came across differently....I've tried to explain why that happens.
Things said and done after the messages last week have obviously been influenced because of that .

It's a mess



But regardless this was Paul's post .



"Tam as I have previously explained to you via WhatsApp my issues with you are how you were expecting me to come straight down approx 1000km from where I was to where you were in Tafraoute in a very short space of time a few days I think you said but no matter what I felt that I was being put under pressure to get to you quickly which when I agreed to bring the stuff & the brake cylinder I had no idea would be the case, so to help you out & relieve the pressure on me to get this part to you quickly I discussed possibly using a courier or postage service at which you seemed very reluctant to do and after checking online I agreed that the Moroccan postal service seemed to be crap, but other couriers here in Morocco could of still been an option but you dismissed that idea which is fair enough, your part, your money so that was fine, I then went looking for Steve Barchetta who I knew was in Asilah at the same time as me and he had discussed with me previously that he was thinking about going the full length of Morocco to Dakhla so I thought happy days Steve might be able to bring this stuff on down southwards to you, and I actually hunted the campsites to find Steve and when I found his van he was out and I waited for nearly an hour until he returned and I asked would he be kind enough to bring this stuff down to you as he was more than likely to be down south a hell of a lot quicker than me, bearing in mind Steve doesn't even know you I felt a bit of nuisance doing this but I was just focused on trying to help you out, but then you questioned why was I not coming straight down south for the weather etc and I explained to you that I actually hate the sun and too hot weather and only go to hot sunny places for my wife who loves the sun and the heat and that I was in no hurry whatsoever to get down to warmer & sunnier parts of Morocco and which point you as good as called me a liar and said I flew off down south last time you were in Morocco like as in your words shit of a shovel, and I thought wait a minute here this is bollocks I'm trying to do this guy a favour among all the other favours I have done for you since knowing you and now I'm having to justify why and how I spend my holidays and your coming off with this crap, I explained to you that in fact I'd went to Kenitra just below Asilah and you then came back and said yes but you were in Sidi Kaouki 13 days or something after I'd left you in Asilah and I thought what the feck is going on here! I'm having to constantly defend myself against all this crap when all I was trying to do was help you out! So I just said feck this I have had enough and I withdrew myself from your thread and wanted to let things settle a bit before I decided what to do next and this bullshit mockery your now calling my stoic philosophy actually teaches us that in difficult and negative situations is to try to detach yourself and your thoughts from it all which is what I did, I've found you too be much too demanding on someone you refer to as just an acquaintance and not really a friend in spite of me helping you out on numerous occasions in all kinds of ways and I actually thought we were friends, you then went on to say stuff like I think I can buy your friendship etc and then drop in another deliberate lie that I had in your words dumped your number plates somewhere in Kenitra when In fact I had WhatsApp you exactly where I had arranged to leave them safely for you even sending you a map with a drop pin of the exact location of the campsite where I had left them for you and informing you that reception spoke perfect English and there was lots of easy parking for your van outside it, there are other things you have said but to be honest I can't even recall it all as your opinions of me have been made quite clear
I see you mentioned about your mental issues well your not alone as I have told you I spent most of youth teenage years and early 20s in and out of institutions and prisons and I was actually a victim of historical institutional abuse and only 3 years back had to testify in a room full of strangers some of the abuse I suffered as a child at the hands of those who were supposed to be protecting and helping us but I turned it all around and through my stoicism and mindfulness I created a new me and went on to establish several very successful businesses which made me very wealthy and very happy but it was a tough road and I bear many many mental scars from it all, and that is the reason I sent you those recordings etc to try to help you, just like I was trying to help you with your vehicle parts etc but unfortunately Tam through maybe no intentional faults of your own you have mistaken kindness for softness which is a fatal error with me
I've wished you all the best and good luck in my WhatsApp messages to you outside the forum, I never brought any of our fall out or cross words into this domain, that was you, as regards Garry, Jackie etc I haven't even met up with them yet and have no idea of what the reasons are behind their decisions I can only account for myself
So I'll say it again here on your thread good luck, all the best, I wish you no ill will but as far as I'm concerned too much has been done & said unfortunately
Paul"




I'm posting it because I feel its fair , not to create another lot of drama .

 

[Northernraider]

Hindsight being the wonderful thing it is I just wish I'd went with my gut instinct at Christmas and not returned to Morocco, its just been a disaster since the offset. The only benefit was getting the van painted although the state of it at present you'd never know.

Between the brakes and other things it's just put me in a negative mindset from the off ....it is a marmite country and I've never liked marmite .

For me it's like a huge field of broken glass with the odd jewel scattered here n there. But I gave it a second chance.... so I know now not to return.

It does create future problems though for my lifestyle.

 

[Stonemags76]

Is Albania in Schengen? It’s supposed to be very beautiful & Motorhome friendly as far as I know?

 

[WESTY66]

Is Albania in Schengen? It’s supposed to be very beautiful & Motorhome friendly as far as I know?

It isn’t, but it’s not quite that warm in January, the peeps go to Morocco for two reasons, 1, to escape Schengen, 2, for the winter sun cos as per reason 1 they can’t stay in Spain any longer.
Oh the joys of 2016

 

[Northernraider]

Is Albania in Schengen? It’s supposed to be very beautiful & Motorhome friendly as far as I know?

No it's outwith shengen but not great in winter months.. I was there in october/November last time and it was cold n wet .

But if I'm returning to Greece next winter I'll most likely have to go that way as the ferry from Italy to Greece is difficult with 4 dogs

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[Northernraider]

It isn’t, but it’s not quite that warm in January, the peeps go to Morocco for two reasons, 1, to escape Schengen, 2, for the winter sun cos as per reason 1 they can’t stay in Spain any longer.
Oh the joys of 2016

Yes that's why I'm here , if it wasn't for the 90 days thing I doubt I'd have ever come.

I was quite happy on my first 2 trips spending 10/11 months round Spain and Portugal.

I only ever do 6 months max nowadays but if we had only even negotiated the same 180 days deal that eu citizens can do in UK it would have been better .

90 days is shit .

 

[WESTY66]

Yes that's why I'm here , if it wasn't for the 90 days thing I doubt I'd have ever come.

I was quite happy on my first 2 trips spending 10/11 months round Spain and Portugal.

I only ever do 6 months max nowadays but if we had only even negotiated the same 180 days deal that eu citizens can do in UK it would have been better .

90 days is shit .

We didn’t negotiate naff all, we were told what they were giving us and we said “oh ok”
They did the negotiating, I could have done a better job myself, even like for like would be better than what we have now, that’s all I’m saying before I end up down the M69

 

[Minxy]

Fresh 'virtual' cod being prepared for 2 funsters on their way to Coventry!

 

[jumar]

Phew...glad we have a simple life...and also live as EU residents...

 

[Dutch 68]

Yes that's why I'm here , if it wasn't for the 90 days thing I doubt I'd have ever come.

I was quite happy on my first 2 trips spending 10/11 months round Spain and Portugal.

I only ever do 6 months max nowadays but if we had only even negotiated the same 180 days deal that eu citizens can do in UK it would have been better .

90 days is shit .

It may serve you well to follow through with your plan to get the 6 month visa Tam, you might even turn lucky one day and find the love of your life with a EU country passport , or even better maybe they change the rules at some point and return the favour

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[Minxy]

Oh, and Tam ... I'm not talking about a fish supper!

 

[Minxy]

It may serve you well to follow through with your plan to get the 6 month visa Tam, you might even turn lucky one day and find the love of your life with a EU country passport , or even better maybe they change the rules at some point and return the favour

Not unless he/she looks like a camel or donkey!

 

[MichaelT]

I'm trying to do the right thing.


Paul contacted me because I had said I didn't fully understand what his problem was with me ....so he has told me and because he couldn't post it up here he asked me to do it.

As I said I've read it , he makes a few fair points , it's clear there's been a lot of misunderstandings on both sides , maybe there should have been more discussion perhaps on the phone or via text rather than posts on here which were missed or misinterpreted I don't know, some of the things he's said I wasn't even aware I did or said , other things were a result if feeling cornered, betrayed etc. As I said perhaps timing also played a part, I'd just received the text I got from garry and then Paul announced he was cutting ties etc .. I was stressed ,upset and confused. As I said the whole thing is a big mess.
In my defence I didn't expect Paul to rush/ruin his holiday to deliver the parts to me super quick , I misunderstood when he said he'd see me soon etc , from previous conversations I thought he was going to be heading south faster than he obviously intended too. He misunderstood my comment saying he moved further south quicker 2 years ago as an attack when I didn't intend it to be.

Anyway as I said there's been many misunderstandings ....I can't go through all of them its just going to be confusing as hell. Bottom line is I was always grateful for the help I was given and I did make that clear. I was also grateful for the help collecting the part for me and bringing it over etc ..... I guess we both just didn't think of the timing and logistics of it as I'm already in to my second month and on my return trip back to Spain and he's only heading out so it probably wasn't the best idea to do it this way. But the stress of having no brakes and various other issues clouded that.

Once again I apologise if things came across differently....I've tried to explain why that happens.
Things said and done after the messages last week have obviously been influenced because of that .

It's a mess



But regardless this was Paul's post .



"Tam as I have previously explained to you via WhatsApp my issues with you are how you were expecting me to come straight down approx 1000km from where I was to where you were in Tafraoute in a very short space of time a few days I think you said but no matter what I felt that I was being put under pressure to get to you quickly which when I agreed to bring the stuff & the brake cylinder I had no idea would be the case, so to help you out & relieve the pressure on me to get this part to you quickly I discussed possibly using a courier or postage service at which you seemed very reluctant to do and after checking online I agreed that the Moroccan postal service seemed to be crap, but other couriers here in Morocco could of still been an option but you dismissed that idea which is fair enough, your part, your money so that was fine, I then went looking for Steve Barchetta who I knew was in Asilah at the same time as me and he had discussed with me previously that he was thinking about going the full length of Morocco to Dakhla so I thought happy days Steve might be able to bring this stuff on down southwards to you, and I actually hunted the campsites to find Steve and when I found his van he was out and I waited for nearly an hour until he returned and I asked would he be kind enough to bring this stuff down to you as he was more than likely to be down south a hell of a lot quicker than me, bearing in mind Steve doesn't even know you I felt a bit of nuisance doing this but I was just focused on trying to help you out, but then you questioned why was I not coming straight down south for the weather etc and I explained to you that I actually hate the sun and too hot weather and only go to hot sunny places for my wife who loves the sun and the heat and that I was in no hurry whatsoever to get down to warmer & sunnier parts of Morocco and which point you as good as called me a liar and said I flew off down south last time you were in Morocco like as in your words shit of a shovel, and I thought wait a minute here this is bollocks I'm trying to do this guy a favour among all the other favours I have done for you since knowing you and now I'm having to justify why and how I spend my holidays and your coming off with this crap, I explained to you that in fact I'd went to Kenitra just below Asilah and you then came back and said yes but you were in Sidi Kaouki 13 days or something after I'd left you in Asilah and I thought what the feck is going on here! I'm having to constantly defend myself against all this crap when all I was trying to do was help you out! So I just said feck this I have had enough and I withdrew myself from your thread and wanted to let things settle a bit before I decided what to do next and this bullshit mockery your now calling my stoic philosophy actually teaches us that in difficult and negative situations is to try to detach yourself and your thoughts from it all which is what I did, I've found you too be much too demanding on someone you refer to as just an acquaintance and not really a friend in spite of me helping you out on numerous occasions in all kinds of ways and I actually thought we were friends, you then went on to say stuff like I think I can buy your friendship etc and then drop in another deliberate lie that I had in your words dumped your number plates somewhere in Kenitra when In fact I had WhatsApp you exactly where I had arranged to leave them safely for you even sending you a map with a drop pin of the exact location of the campsite where I had left them for you and informing you that reception spoke perfect English and there was lots of easy parking for your van outside it, there are other things you have said but to be honest I can't even recall it all as your opinions of me have been made quite clear
I see you mentioned about your mental issues well your not alone as I have told you I spent most of youth teenage years and early 20s in and out of institutions and prisons and I was actually a victim of historical institutional abuse and only 3 years back had to testify in a room full of strangers some of the abuse I suffered as a child at the hands of those who were supposed to be protecting and helping us but I turned it all around and through my stoicism and mindfulness I created a new me and went on to establish several very successful businesses which made me very wealthy and very happy but it was a tough road and I bear many many mental scars from it all, and that is the reason I sent you those recordings etc to try to help you, just like I was trying to help you with your vehicle parts etc but unfortunately Tam through maybe no intentional faults of your own you have mistaken kindness for softness which is a fatal error with me
I've wished you all the best and good luck in my WhatsApp messages to you outside the forum, I never brought any of our fall out or cross words into this domain, that was you, as regards Garry, Jackie etc I haven't even met up with them yet and have no idea of what the reasons are behind their decisions I can only account for myself
So I'll say it again here on your thread good luck, all the best, I wish you no ill will but as far as I'm concerned too much has been done & said unfortunately
Paul"




I'm posting it because I feel its fair , not to create another lot of drama .

Like the other thread

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I'm drawing a line

 

[WESTY66]

Like the other thread

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I'm drawing a line

You’ve done two

 

[Northernraider]

It may serve you well to follow through with your plan to get the 6 month visa Tam, you might even turn lucky one day and find the love of your life with a EU country passport , or even better maybe they change the rules at some point and return the favour

I've given up on ever finding the love of my life . Whatever I do I'm destined to do it alone. Well apart from the dogs.

I'm in a catch 22 situation these days , vsnlife is hard work but living in a flat with 4 dogs would also be hard work .

But I got myself in to the situation... I just gotta push on somehow

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[JockandRita]

Jock ...with respect if you don't want to know then you don't have to read it.

Paul asked me to post it up because he wanted to air his side of it . Which is fair enough.

Jock

if you don’t want to know then simply scroll on by

Have you thought Tam might want to get it off his chest as well and his only way is on here

Seems he has to please others first before himself f.f.s

And it's Northernraider's thread

Fine, but having contributed to what I thought was about a thread supporting a fellow Funster, with the same model of Niesmann+Bischoff as ours, with his desire to explore countries afar. Despite it being "Tam's" thread, it has turned into something absolutely totally different.

Previous advice and help on this and Tam's previous thread, has gone unacknowledged, which ties in with the acknowledgement of others, ie, you are still driving about with dodgy brakes.

Sorry, but I can't believe you would do that.

Regards,

Jock.

Jock.

 

[Dutch 68]

I've given up on ever finding the love of my life . Whatever I do I'm destined to do it alone. Well apart from the dogs.

I'm in a catch 22 situation these days , vsnlife is hard work but living in a flat with 4 dogs would also be hard work .

But I got myself in to the situation... I just gotta push on somehow

The love of your life might find you instead, sometimes things come to you without having to look for it, stranger things have happened

 

[Barriesimpson]

I can see this post

I'm unsure what is happening here, I can no longer see the post and I get this error:

Oops! We ran into some problems.​

The requested post could not be found.