Dashcams - Blessing or Curse?

[Jaws]

Ever tried to reason with an intoxicated person .... umpteen years running pubs teaches one that is like pushing water uphill with a fork ... and risky with it

Umpteen years of dealing with drunks taught me otherwise
And what was you doing flogging booze to someone already drunk ? ( not a serious comment, just leg pulling )
Woman has a personal victualler licence and I am forever getting lectured about the rules and regs

 

[Barclaybasher]

How could one (amateur) view of an incident be used as evidence?

What if it ends up that police could seize anyone's dashcam?

Could evidence of speeding by the owner, recorded on the camera, be used?

A slippery slope?

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[RioRob]

The drawback with the dashcam is that it records all your conversations while driving so I can imagine the trouble that will cause if the clip is ever to be used in evidence. The microphone on mine is way too sensitive!

Memo to self- I must moderate my comments about others' bad driving.

Just turn the microphone off

 

[filopastry]

What if it ends up that police could seize anyone's dashcam?

Could evidence of speeding by the owner, recorded on the camera, be used?

A slippery slope?

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Not sure but would not be surprised if the police could seize a dashcam as evidence and there have been numerous numpties who have posted videos of their foolish antics and been prosecuted on the basis of their own footage (I believe) but this only proves with very limited intelligence of some moving freely amongst us

 

[MattR]

Don’t follow. Can you clarify?

Ian

Should we tolerate dangerous driving?

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[MattR]

It's not our job as members of the public to accept or reject dangerous driving, if what some driver does is unacceptable the police (if they catch them) will deal with it. we don't have a responsibility to police the roads.
We're in danger of turning into a self despising nation of snitches... Similar things happened under Pol Pot and NAZI Germany.

You seem to be condoning dangerous driving. I reject it and will share video footage of dangerous driving if my cameras catch it. It isn't about "snitching" - it is about reducing the likelihood that people will take risks with my life.

 

[Ivory55]

I guess it’s like who decides how smelly a fart is. One persons view can be greatly different from another’s as is the angle or position of a camera view.

 

[2657]

The drawback with the dashcam is that it records all your conversations while driving so I can imagine the trouble that will cause if the clip is ever to be used in evidence. The microphone on mine is way too sensitive!

Memo to self- I must moderate my comments about others' bad driving.

Turn the sound off

 

[Richard n Ann]

You seem to be condoning dangerous driving

Definitely not. Dangerous driving is bad

 

[MattR]

Definitely not. Dangerous driving is bad

But you wouldn't provide evidence of dangerous driving to the police?

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[Richard n Ann]

But you wouldn't provide evidence of dangerous driving to the police?

I would if they asked me. But I wouldn't take it upon myself to try and punish people, enforce the law, dob people in etc. Because that's what it is. Sometimes they may deserve it right enough (like that idiot in the pick-up yesterday) . It's difficult to draw a line as mentioned earlier.

My line is, if people get injured or vehicles get damaged the police or owner should know you have footage. Otherwise I'll mind my own business.

 

[pappajohn]

The drawback with the dashcam is that it records all your conversations while driving so I can imagine the trouble that will cause if the clip is ever to be used in evidence. The microphone on mine is way too sensitive!

Memo to self- I must moderate my comments about others' bad driving.

I have the option to turn off audio record.
Mio mi-view (sp)
Thought all the better ones did.

 

[iandsm]

What about speeding? Or not indicating? It's a slippery slope once you start. I agree a drunk driver is fair game though. I personally wouldn't report them, maybe I'm morally wrong there.

You are absolutely right it's a slippery slope but I think anyone seeng someone driving or attempting to dive when obviously drunk has a moral duty to do something about it. I certainly would not hesitate, I could not live with myself with the thought that I could have prevented a serious accident perhaps involving the death of innocent people.

I have seen the carnage of such accidents several times, it ain't nice.

 

[Camdoon]

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Otherwise I'll mind my own business.

Is that not what happened in Nazi Germany? First they took...

 

[ivorantony]

How could one (amateur) view of an incident be used as evidence?

What if it ends up that police could seize anyone's dashcam?

Could evidence of speeding by the owner, recorded on the camera, be used?

A slippery slope?

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Of course it can and has been used because the morons speeding post it on social media , In Japan a guy with a Ferrari filmed himself doing 180 km and was surprised he got done by the police, also a motorcyclist with helmet cam driving like a looney in the Yorkshire dale came off on a tight bend catapulted over a stone wall and rolled down the hill, luckily not harming himself or any one else, was also too stupid to realise that putting it on Facebook meant the coppers had him bang to rights,
Many more examples on line if you bother to look,
If you want to Race go to a race track and don’t inflict your stupidity on a innocent road user,
In a previous life I would clean up after a road traffic accident and many times the person who caused the accident through drink/Drugs or aggressive driving would walk away leaving some poor innocent sod bleeding or dying,

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[MattR]

I would if they asked me. But I wouldn't take it upon myself to try and punish people, enforce the law, dob people in etc. Because that's what it is. Sometimes they may deserve it right enough (like that idiot in the pick-up yesterday) . It's difficult to draw a line as mentioned earlier.

My line is, if people get injured or vehicles get damaged the police or owner should know you have footage. Otherwise I'll mind my own business.

In my opinion, the line was drawn when they endangered others.

 

[Larrynwin]

I find it difficult to understand that in the event of an accident potential incriminating video evidence is not volunteered.

 

[Ivory55]

In my opinion, the line was drawn when they endangered others.

There is the thing endangered others. You might’ve endangered others and get a worse sentence then someone who actually harmed someone. The case of the girl who was training to be a dr who stabbed a fella as an example. Am not condoning bad anything but people do get more high and mighty about what could happen then what actually does happen.

 

[Tea Bag]

Hi.
Question. What happens when You/the Driver ? Whoever,is in the wrong in a given situation ? The other driver insists a copy of Your?whoever's dash cam footage ? Is it a case of..."I had it switched off at the time/It does not work ?
In the event of an accident further up the road,and you have dash cam footage of their reckless driving,you could become a witness,even without a dash cam,however,if you complete your journey and STILL report the in your eyes " Bad driving",a day/days later, are you "Aiding and Abetting" their actions...ooooooops,by letting them continue to drive dangerously.hardly a Win Win. It has been posted about drivers "Speeding up" when you are trying to overtake them,then slowing of when you pull in behind them........ Welcome to one of the joys of lorry/Mk3 Land rover and C/van, etc. driving
Also, you could trawl through the "Cam" footage,noting HGV's travelling along,where and when,and report this to VOSA,they in turn can then contact the haulier and make him produce the Tacho records for that vehicle that day and perhaps catch a sinner........ "Come here...there's more Jimmy Cricket "
The plus is, some people will video the drivers who do 40mph in a 30 zone and 40 mph in a 50zone.. Average drivers?.
Next idea,"Lapel Cams". You could then record every second of your lives,who did what ,when and where,you could perhaps get an allowance as not only have you made policing a lot easier,this allowance will go towards replacing your windows daily.
Tea Bag
Support you local police force..... While One of their own drove off.......Lest we forget

 

[tonyidle]

No I'd just keep the cyclist video. Someone crossing a solid white line is their decision, their risk, they know the consequences if something goes wrong. If no one is hurt it's not my business or duty to report them. And I hope no one would report me if I was in a massive hurry either.

I certainly would too. I see no issue with passing dashcam footage to the Police. It is their decision whether to follow it up or not. And I have reported a driver over the limit.

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[tonyidle]

Question. What happens when You/the Driver ? Whoever,is in the wrong in a given situation ? The other driver insists a copy of Your?whoever's dash cam footage ? Is it a case of..."I had it switched off at the time/It does not work ?

That is where your honesty is important. I would pass any footage unmodified whether it showed me in a good light or not.

 

[pappajohn]

That is where your honesty is important. I would pass any footage unmodified whether it showed me in a good light or not.

Like the Japanese driver a year or two back who filmed his speedo climbing to 200mph on a public motorway then posting it on social media.
The police soon took action against him.

 

[Tea Bag]

That is where your honesty is important. I would pass any footage unmodified whether it showed me in a good light or

Hi.
Good for you,i also carry a St Christopher medallion,it was given to me by a very concerned wife.NO,Jennifer
Tea Bag

 

[MattR]

There is the thing endangered others. You might’ve endangered others and get a worse sentence then someone who actually harmed someone. The case of the girl who was training to be a dr who stabbed a fella as an example. Am not condoning bad anything but people do get more high and mighty about what could happen then what actually does happen.

Perhaps better than doing nothing. Let the police or jury decide.

 

[Barclaybasher]

Speeding? Jumping red lights? Vehicles with only one headlight? Drivers using phones?...........etc etc

I see these every day driving 5 miles to work and back

Where do you start or finish?

Who decides who to prosecute?

The Thought Police?

If everyone does it there won't be any problems on the roads............or traffic !!

See you all on Youtube.........

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[Ivory55]

Perhaps better than doing nothing. Let the police or jury decide.

I am sure some people are living in different worlds.

 

[Eggs]

I live in a rural part of Suffolk, if those people who keep the local pub open didn't drive home the pub would close.

I'm not saying it's right, just how it is.

I'm not in the 'telling tales after school brigade', each to there own though.

 

[MattR]

I live in a rural part of Suffolk, if those people who keep the local pub open didn't drive home the pub would close.

I'm not saying it's right, just how it is.

I'm not in the 'telling tales after school brigade', each to there own though.

Interesting situation.... at what point would you call the police? Before or after someone is hurt?

 

[Frankiej]

I would if they asked me. But I wouldn't take it upon myself to try and punish people, enforce the law, dob people in etc. Because that's what it is. Sometimes they may deserve it right enough (like that idiot in the pick-up yesterday) . It's difficult to draw a line as mentioned earlier.

My line is, if people get injured or vehicles get damaged the police or owner should know you have footage. Otherwise I'll mind my own business.

So, you wait until they cause an accident....?

 

[Eggs]

Interesting situation.... at what point would you call the police? Before or after someone is hurt?

I wouldn't. I'd take them home and pick them up in the morning to collect their motor if need be. After all we are a community.

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