Perhaps but I bet the total number of failures is a small percentage by comparison to the amount on the road. And some on here are the same tales just retold every time somebody new asks. I see on some car forums.I’m sure there’s lots of happy owners and we only hear about the failures. However, I’m not sure I’ve seen as many manual gearbox problem threads.
I suppose it’s the frightening costs involved when the Comformatic ones go wrong.
Ignore all the bad news stories, they are a great gearbox, possibly better than the merc auto…Hi
Newish member herewe are in the market for a used MoHo, I would prefer an auto, at my price range that means mainly the only one will be the Fiat Comfortmatic, how bad are these? There are a few horror stories about but I would like to find out from the experts on here as to their thoughts, I know there are a couple of other makes like ford or merc but most seem to be the Fiat
what do you mean by ”Adapting your driving style”. I’ve been driving auto cars for many years and don’t believe I drive differently in either. Apart from the fact one weighs more than twice as much and handles a bit differently in the bends!
now we learn the 9 speed auto from fiat may soon be dropped !
Robotic gearboxes tend to change gear just when you don't want them to in my experience, and also tend to change gear slower with a slight pause before drive is restored, just what you don't want when joining a busy roundabout or pulling into traffic, which means dropping into manual mode to negotiate these circumstances, that is adapting your driving style, with a torque converter box the power delivery and changes are smoother.
I think that's Stellantis trying to move every brand to use the same engine and running gear. I think only the Fiats had the 2.3 with the ZF 9 Speed? It sounds like there's a suitable Citroen-Peugeot engine that they have an in-house automatic box. So I'm guessing all brands will use that engine going forwards. It might make the auto option cheaper than the £3.5k plus non optional extras that they currently charge now.
I had a Merc torque converter auto on my last motorhome and driving my current Comfortmatic is nicer than the Merc.
The Merc auto was just the same, the ECU drops the power to help the gear change on both of them.
If it suits you that's fine, my merc auto doesn't drop the revs and neither did my Mitsubishi Delica, both are a smooth as silk and the Mitsi did over 200,000 miles with no gearbox issues at all.
There's quite a few reports of them failing too.
Stick yo one foot driving, you won't have any problems. On the Comfortmatic you can't increase revs if your foot is on the brake. In fact it causes a problem if you are inadvertently touching the brake pedal at the same time as trying to pull away.
That's what I said?
On mine the engine cuts out.
Did you? I couldn't really tell what you were saying. You mentioned using a left foot on the brake. That's not a thing you should do with any automatic.
I’ve had loads of problems with my comformatic, loads of them.
But 100% of them are user error. Usually “Put your foot on the brake before moving the stick fatty” or “How many times do I have to tell you to leave me in 1st gear before switching me off idiot“
Oh yeh, I forgot about that shortyI also get “put someone else’s foot on the brake you legless barsteward”
I’m an idiot, I still leave it in neutral…..
Ive got a fiat 2.2 with a 9speed auto, undersatnd a ZF product? Are Stelantis phasing them out too?
Not sure that the bit about it being a Ford based engine with timing chain is true. Having done a quick scan of the Fiat Forum there appear to be differences between the Fiat 2.2l and the Peugeot/Citroen 2.2l engines. The discussion here
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