charging electric car from pitch ?

[Tombola]

What's a more realistic miles/kWh for an EV car towing a caravan though, as presumably the Volvo is?

Hard to say, depending on battery/weight/wind against etc but it will be woeful. I put the tow hook on mine once and towed a box trailer from my work down the dual carraigeway and a roads about 15 miles, i could virtually count the mile range dropping per minute. Aprt from that it pissed the tow

The top gear episode where they tested 3 evs towing vans was funny but also gave a but of an insight.

 

[Swiss]

Tis the season to be jolly, la la la la la la la……what the heck has it got to do with us lot!!!

Phone the site, unplug the vehicle, set booby traps and barbwire wire fences.

I’m pretty sure the site warden will have clocked it by now and if not, then nought to do with any of us!

Ba blooming humbug

Exactly, why don't people find out the facts before applying for the jobs of judge, jury and executioner!

 

[Richard Mason]

We are on a site today in Northumberland . The guy on the next pitch has his electric Volvo plugged into the vacant pitch next to him . How can sites stand the cost of charging electric cars ? . Very cheeky using a vacant pitch to charge his car . I guess he can’t use the supply on his pitch as he will be using all the power to heat his caravan . What makes it worse is the site is giving a free night for booking two nights .How many miles does he do a day..If it’s 200 plus he owes about antennae.mid the average daily of 9 it’s about bugger all. He should ask first though.

 

[Richard Mason]

Well, it would go down by about the same as an ICE towing. Maybe around 2.5 - 3 miles/kWh.

Electric cars make excellent tow cars, BTW. Someone stuck a towbar ontoa 150kW Hyundai Kona, (not legal in this country, I believe, as no MTW on the plate). They seemed to think it was vastly superior to an ICE car in terms of performance, with the maximum torque available at rest. The low down battery weight makes them much more stable than the equivalent ICE). The only issue is that the batteries do need to be a lot larger to make it practical for long distance travel. Basically, not quite there yet, but the future looks bright.

All that torque and low down weight. I agree with your point but the are still too many experts on here who know nothing about evs but spout out of date negatives.

 

[two]

Typically the granny cable will draw 10A or 13A (i.e. 2.3kW - 3kW). My car gets 4.3 miles/kWh, so about 10 to 13 miles per hour recharge. Overnight (12 hours) that would be 120 to 160 miles recharge a day. That would be a useful amount (obviously not much electricity left from the bollard for more than a fridge and battery charging).

However, the problem is that the electrical design of the campsite is unlikely to be able to sustain everyone doing this. Everyone focusses on the last bollard, thinking it is 16A, so everything is OK. However, the campsite supply itself will be designed using a concept called "diversity", which uses judgement and experience to determine how many of those bollards they think will be taking how much power.

These assumptions may prove pretty flawed if everyone started turning up in electric cars wanting to charge overnight, when the calculations were based on empirical evidence of what people actually drew before the popularity of electric cars.

It could end up like WiFi: Only a dribble each.
Some folk expect others to pay for them. Where did we go wrong?

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[Richard Mason]

It could end up like WiFi: Only a dribble each.
Some folk expect others to pay for them. Where did we go wrong?

Your talking the national grid not AOL. Don’t worry there’s enough electricity.
also keep quite but the ehu post harvests electric back when the lights go out. Sshhh.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

So how many peeps would be kicking off if said Volvo was plugged into a 13A socket inside of his motorhome/caravan? It’s no different.

 

[gus-lopez]

So how many peeps would be kicking off if said Volvo was plugged into a 13A socket inside of his motorhome/caravan? It’s no different.

Me. I wouldn't supply ehu to anyone for anything.

Tis the season to be jolly,

for some.For others it gets far more miserable the closer it gets & the sooner it passes the better.

 

[Helen Ariel]

*shakes head at the self-appointed campsite police*

 

[cmcardle75]

It could end up like WiFi: Only a dribble each.
Some folk expect others to pay for them. Where did we go wrong?

If only it worked that way. What would happen is that the entire campsite would either trip out, or its switchgear would set on fire.

What is needed is a reappraisal of how it all works. I doubt unmetered electricity for £4 a day will last as a concept, with some using 20p to charge batteries and others needing £15 worth to run their car and electric heating all night.

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[Spriddler]

So how many peeps would be kicking off if said Volvo was plugged into a 13A socket inside of his motorhome/caravan? It’s no different.

I don't have any opinion either way but the difference is that the Volvo was plugged into a vacant bollard socket provided for another pitch which hasn't been 'paid for' in the pitch fee so he has the potential to use double the amount of electricity than would be available if he was plugged into a socket inside his m/h.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

So the main issue here is one of principle, rather than that of the cost of the electricity? An EV will not use any more electrical power whether its connected via a commando socket on a post or a 13A socket in the M/H.
What about ppl charging their eBikes? What about ppl using more electricity to run their Christmas fairy lights? Where does this end? People complaining because 'next-door' has had three showers today? People will be jumping on forums to complain next ....

 

[Two on Tour]

So the main issue here is one of principle, rather than that of the cost of the electricity? An EV will not use any more electrical power whether its connected via a commando socket on a post or a 13A socket in the M/H.
What about ppl charging their eBikes? What about ppl using more electricity to run their Christmas fairy lights? Where does this end? People complaining because 'next-door' has had three showers today? People will be jumping on forums to complain next ....

People complaining about people complaining.

 

[AndyPK]

Ad infinitum……..

 

[Coolcats]

Its a bit cheeky if the guy hasn't paid for the electricity but if he has good on him we should applaud him for using an EV and taking the challenge to go camping with it. It is a wake up call for the future of investment requirements for Campsites. If all MoHo's were electric there will be a huge demand for charging points....

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[Barryh]

Its a bit cheeky if the guy hasn't paid for the electricity but if he has good on him we should applaud him for using an EV and taking the challenge to go camping with it. It is a wake up call for the future of investment requirements for Campsites. If all MoHo's were electric there will be a huge demand for charging points....

Our campsite was in a National park. Back in around 2010 the Park was pushing its green credentials and giving grants for EV charging points. They approached us to have a couple installed on our car park. The deal was free installation and maintenance of the charging points, but we paid for the electricity, and passed it on for free to our campers or any other member of the public passing by. It would have been good publicity, but we decided too much potential hassle and cost. So the point is, EV charging really shouldn’t be a surprise future investment for campsites, especially for cars.

 

[glenn2926]

Our campsite was in a National park. Back in around 2010 the Park was pushing its green credentials and giving grants for EV charging points. They approached us to have a couple installed on our car park. The deal was free installation and maintenance of the charging points, but we paid for the electricity, and passed it on for free to our campers or any other member of the public passing by. It would have been good publicity, but we decided too much potential hassle and cost. So the point is, EV charging really shouldn’t be a surprise future investment for campsites, especially for cars.

They could certainly make a little money from this idea. The charger at the college I work at was fitted by a third party and cost £10 per hour to use. I must admit though, I have yet to see it being used. It has only been there just over a year so may not be a particularly well known charge point yet. Perhaps as we are a rural college and about a mile and a half from anywhere, that also has a bearing on the lack of use.

 

[Kozikot]

Some on here want to mind they don't get a bloody Nose...

 

[glenn2926]

Some on here want to mind they don't get a bloody Nose...

There are a few on here that do like to tell others how to live their lives.

 

[Kozikot]

There are a few on here that do like to tell others how to live their lives.

Brave behind the Keyboards, I'd say

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[tacr2man]

"My Dad's bigger than your Dad "

 

[sueandjohn]

The rights and wrongs of this specific incident aside , it is going to become an issue that has to be addressed sooner rather than later . This is not only camp sites but , for example , holiday lets . A cottage neighbour let their cottage for a week and the folk charged their ev every day - free motoring on holiday ?

 

[cantonalegod]

They could certainly make a little money from this idea. The charger at the college I work at was fitted by a third party and cost £10 per hour to use. I must admit though, I have yet to see it being used. It has only been there just over a year so may not be a particularly well known charge point yet. Perhaps as we are a rural college and about a mile and a half from anywhere, that also has a bearing on the lack of use.

Assuming it's a 7kW charger, at £10 an hour you are unlikely to see anyone using it anytime soon,

 

[PP Bear]

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[Jamesh]

At least we know that the Volvo owner is not circumcised, ............................ because you have to be a complete prick to buy a Volvo.

What's wrong with a Volvo?
Nice cars without the snob factor of the big three.....

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[glenn2926]

Assuming it's a 7kW charger, at £10 an hour you are unlikely to see anyone using it anytime soon,

I have absolutely no idea what a 7kw charger means but £10 per hour does sound expensive. One of my work colleagues has a hybrid car and he won’t use it as it’s too expensive.

 

[glenn2926]

What's wrong with a Volvo?
Nice cars without the snob factor of the big three.....

Agree completely. I would have another Volvo before any of the German equivalents. I had a 740 estate many years ago. Probably the best car I’ve owned.

 

[icantremember]

At least we know that the Volvo owner is not circumcised, ............................ because you have to be a complete prick to buy a Volvo.

Oi! I resemble that remark.

I've had my current Volvo for 16 years from new and can't bring myself to sell it as it is so practical and the performance will see off most other cars on the road.

 

[Andy_Elddis125]

When we went to the New Forest in the summer (only 30 miles away) we took the EV as there are so many restrictions at the car parks and roads there. There was an EV charging point at the site (CAMC Brockenhurst) but none of the wardens knew how it worked (and they had none of the tokens required). So I plugged into the motorhome. In the summer I usually use very little electricity so had a bit better value this time although we probably only used 4 or 5 kWh a day.

 

[cyberyacht]

Exactly, why don't people find out the facts before applying for the jobs of judge, jury and executioner!

Have to have some replacement entertainment after the discontinuing of family outings to Tyburn.

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