Caution! Diesel heaters warning from trading standards

[pappajohn]

Why can't Chinese manufacturers employ professional translators rather then some bloke on the production line who understands a little English?

 

[Gromett]

Why can't Chinese manufacturers employ professional translators rather then some bloke on the production line who understands a little English?

WHy go to the expense when us westerners buy them as fast as they can make them already.

 

[pappajohn]

We have a diesel heater in our house....actually it's sec28 kerosene but can run on diesel.
It's in the utility room with the exhaust (flu pipe) exiting through the wall.
It's no more sealed to room than our open fire place.
It works on exactly the same principle as these diesel heaters.
Kerosene is injected at pressure to a fan fed combustion chamber.
Instead of heat transfer to air it's transfer to water.
It's been doing this since 2002 and we're still here.

 

[MisterB]

Gadget John has had a problem with his case melting on his heater, haven't watched it fully so not sure what the problem is ...or was ..


Just noticed it's already been highlighted on here, sorry for the duplicate post !

 

[dna]

We have a diesel heater in our house....actually it's sec28 kerosene but can run on diesel.
It's in the utility room with the exhaust (flu pipe) exiting through the wall.
It's no more sealed to room than our open fire place.
It works on exactly the same principle as these diesel heaters.
Kerosene is injected at pressure to a fan fed combustion chamber.
Instead of heat transfer to air it's transfer to water.
It's been doing this since 2002 and we're still here.

A suggestion in the video was that travelling about in a motorhome with a heater installed may have caused the problem by vibrating the bolts loose. If you heater is not installed on your washing machine / spin dryer (remember them!) it shouldn't suffer from loose bits

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[pappajohn]

A suggestion in the video was that travelling about in a motorhome with a heater installed may have caused the problem by vibrating the bolts loose. If you heater is not installed on your washing machine / spin dryer (remember them!) it shouldn't suffer from loose bits

Whoever made that suggestion should look a bit further than their monobrow.
Strange how nothing else like the onboard blow heater, fridge or water boiler suffers loosening bolts due to vibrations when driving.
The suggestion is nothing more than grasping for an answer to something which is doubtful happens

 

[Raul]

Whoever made that suggestion should look a bit further than their monobrow.
Strange how nothing else like the onboard blow heater, fridge or water boiler suffers loosening bolts due to vibrations when driving.
The suggestion is nothing more than grasping for an answer to something which is doubtful happens

Indeed, if that would be the case, we would loose a bolt every mile, then the engine and the rest will just fall apart.

 

[Gromett]

Whoever made that suggestion should look a bit further than their monobrow.
Strange how nothing else like the onboard blow heater, fridge or water boiler suffers loosening bolts due to vibrations when driving.
The suggestion is nothing more than grasping for an answer to something which is doubtful happens

I sniggered when I mentally started counting how many nuts and bolts go into a vehicle and imagined them all coming loose.

Either they weren't tightened up to start with, OR he has had a play and didn't put it back together properly. I suspect the latter.

 

[Gromett]

Indeed, if that would be the case, we would loose a bolt every mile, then the engine and the rest will just fall apart.

Beat me to it

 

[jockaneezer]

First time Ive watched a Gadget John video and I'm struggling to understand why he called the combustion process "an explosion" and why didn't he show any pictures of his failed heater ?

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[Two on Tour]

Gadget John at his best being a knobhead, the one thing his is really good at.

 

[Dazzola]

I still standby my feeling that they are very safe to buy and use, check them over when it arrives, without dismantling the main parts but fit them properly, with a good seal onto a turret through the floor.
Use good fuel pipe, not the green stuff it comes with, and hang the pump from tie wraps and insulate the pump to keep them quiet.
I've fitted them in my last 2 vans and they have been 100% reliable, my vans a daily driver and over the cold couple of months being able to switch it on remotely from the house has been a blessing in a morning!
I'm sure some go wrong, but it's usually low voltage on startup or over priming before a first fire up.
I'll even be using an all in one 8kw for my home next winter, in a box outside just ticking over and piping warm air in to keep the house warm.

 

[dna]

Can I just clarify I only posted this to mention that a possible problem had been covered in the video and some people may want to bear this in mind.

Apologies if anyone feels this wasn't a valid concern.

 

[NigelNovice]

I used to tell my learner groups that the Insurance companies and the fear of litigation have changed more to our way of life than any trade union movement or government legislation, so we have to cater for the Morlocks that walk among us, I have known folks with a PHd unable to put a flat pack together or a shelf up, these people have to pay the gifted ones although a motto of mine is RTFM - Read The F*cking Manual I sometime only have to refer to it for torque settings, fuel ratio, passwords or Wifi name etc.

 

[TinaLes]

First time Ive watched a Gadget John video and I'm struggling to understand why he called the combustion process "an explosion" and why didn't he show any pictures of his failed heater ?

I guess he had sent the defective unit back to Amazon for refund at the same time as ordering a replacement.
What I am more concerned about is that he has fitted his diesel heater under the drivers seat and placing the inlet/outlet heater pipes, plus the diesel pump, filter, and pvc feed pipes right over the vans exhaust box, with only a tin thin metal heat shield to protect them from melting.
Of all the suitable places to fit the heater why there!???
You may notice he misses showing how or where he secured the diesel pump, and filter, but with that short length of fuel pipe, it could only have gone in above the vans exhaust box.
Boom! Boom!
LES

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[Lenny HB]

I guess he had sent the defective unit back to Amazon for refund at the same time as ordering a replacement.
What I am more concerned about is that he has fitted his diesel heater under the drivers seat and placing the inlet/outlet heater pipes, plus the diesel pump, filter, and pvc feed pipes right over the vans exhaust box, with only a tin thin metal heat shield to protect them from melting.
Of all the suitable places to fit the heater why there!???
You may notice he misses showing how or where he secured the diesel pump, and filter, but with that short length of fuel pipe, it could only have gone in above the vans exhaust box.
Boom! Boom!
LES

Up to his usual high standards then.

 

[Otter Spotter]

I guess he had sent the defective unit back to Amazon for refund at the same time as ordering a replacement.
What I am more concerned about is that he has fitted his diesel heater under the drivers seat and placing the inlet/outlet heater pipes, plus the diesel pump, filter, and pvc feed pipes right over the vans exhaust box, with only a tin thin metal heat shield to protect them from melting.
Of all the suitable places to fit the heater why there!???
You may notice he misses showing how or where he secured the diesel pump, and filter, but with that short length of fuel pipe, it could only have gone in above the vans exhaust box.
Boom! Boom!
LES

Taking into consideration the absolutely crap crash protection most Ducato cabs have, would you really want a diesel heater under your seat, especially when the fuel tank is sat between the seats. How many vanners drive with the heater running? Frightening to think about what could happen.

 

[Dazzola]

Diesel is a pretty safe fuel as far as ignition is concerned, but yes, I wouldn't want to sit on top of a functioning unit.
Fit them in the garage area, or somewhere in the back away from the cab.
There is a massive amount of open space under the back section of vans to fit the heaters exhaust and intake, why cram it into a small space.

 

[rod_vw]

Diesel is a pretty safe fuel as far as ignition is concerned, but yes, I wouldn't want to sit on top of a functioning unit.
Fit them in the garage area, or somewhere in the back away from the cab.
There is a massive amount of open space under the back section of vans to fit the heaters exhaust and intake, why cram it into a small space.

Standard place to fit blown air heaters on VW and MAN (maybe Mercedes) vans by the manufacturers is under the right front seat BUT outside under floor level.

 

[Minxy]

Up to his usual high standards then.

Even higher if it explodes . Maybe he has doubled it up to provide an ejector seat and just needs to cut the hole in the roof, maybe his next bodge?

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[mitzimad]

try lighting a fire with deisel its virtually impossible

 

[Minxy]

try lighting a fire with deisel its virtually impossible

You do know that some funsters are daft enough to accept that challenge don't you!

 

[Carpmart]

Gadget John - oh dear!

I heard him say in the video, the bolts weren’t tight, I have no doubt that is down to him… I also heard him say that the plastic melted as not enough airflow, so he hadn’t fitted the shrouding back on the heater properly, so down to him.

Finally, he has the audacity to return it to Amazon as faulty. What a complete bloody oxygen stealer he is.

Finally, at the end of the video, he admitted that no one wanted to support him with his Ukraine, let’s make some more content appeal, so that was disappointing… Oh Please!, help out a genuine aid charity John and stop capitalising on Ukraine for your content creation.

Finally, what an abomination of a van he is building. The thing looks like a pile of crap.

Final Finally… I have to stop watching the GJ car crash videos as I’m ultimately supporting him, which really frustrates me! A lot!!!

 

[dazandandrea]

Unclear instructions from a Chinese supplier? Never

 

[Neckender]

I’ve fitted a 2kw Chinese heater to my VW T6.1 underneath my van chassis over the Christmas period and it works brilliantly, so does the 8 kw Chinese diesel heater that I fitted in my garage a year ago.
Would I buy again ? definitely.

John.

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