caravan club - all change !

[joe and sue]

We were on a site in Ötzal Austria . Been a few times.

I asked my wife to come and look at the washing up facilities. I said to her, what’s missing. She looked all over, all around, up, down. I kept it going for a while, then she got a bit angry and I told her.

There is not a single sign anywhere.

No signs to say,

Water may be hot,
Water may be wet,
Caution, slippy floor,
Please leave the drains clean

Just a nice pristine wash area. All complete with private bathrooms.

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Maybe because most of their visitors apply common sense and respect for others.
Plus us British seem to be obsessed with queuing and signage

 

[EuroTrotters]

Maybe because most of their visitors apply common sense and respect for others.
Plus us British seem to be obsessed with queuing and signage

That an the Blame and Claim Culture we picked up from the good old US of A

 

[The Wino]

That an the Blame and Claim Culture we picked up from the good old US of A

I think the CMC obsession with signage started well before that I used to think they were all ex military a bit like the Sargent major out of " it ain't half hot mum" spending their time whitewashing stones and putting up signs.

 

[Gellyneck]

If that was the case they would need to have two separate memberships and paid two separate membership fees .
I have membership , my partner also has membership but we both share the same membership number
If I booked a site and my partner tried to book a different site it wouldn’t work.

It's a number of years back but I am aware of, at least, one couple having two independent memberships (both having paid the equivalent of the £54 nowadays) with different membership numbers as opposed to a lead and second membership. They had both a caravan and a campervan and were able to book two different sites as, sometimes, they travelled independently of each other. Not sure if that's still the case with the new system but how would it be able to stop you if partners both paid as lead members?

I’d like to know where you heard that

See above but also was told by a Warden a few years ago when talking to them about the no-show situation that they had a situation where they had a no-show and when calling the member to see if they were going to arrive late to be told something along the lines of "I don't think so as we're already pitched up on a different site. I must have forgot to cancel the booking with yourself!".

Just checked yes we have the same membership numbers

Are you two individual paid up members or lead and second member on one membership?

the online system doesn’t allow two bookings on different sites on the same date by one member

Correct and don't believe, in at least the last 10 years or so, you have been able to. Can't remember further back than that but found out on a few occasions where I've inadvertently got confused (ain't that difficult!) and tried to book the same date (normally cause I'd overlapped the "moving date".

 

[MillyMoHo]

From the several older emails, CAMC changed their site 11th Sept

And not for the best.

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[ronboyracer]

It seems the cravan club has had a major shakeup and not for the better.

i have just used the new booking form on Caravan Club - with great difficulty as well.
Not only has it thrown away my outfit details and forgotton who i am ect. They now want a 25% deposit or all of it at the time of booking. This of course flies in the face of the gentleman club that they used to be where they trust you to turn up and treat you like grown ups. NO MORE it seems.
This has now placed them equal footing with " the friendly club " which of course isnt . Having just returned from south of france where we stayed at a 4 star site with 3 pools, a club, and a lake for 16 euros im more than pissed off to be told to pay 28.20 at Brean sands in October.
The - by comparison, fleecing folk for every penny for any reason make me sick of uk sites and the mentality of charging for people children and dogs to push up the profits - if europe can do a good site for 15 quid - why does a site in the uk think 30-40 quid is ok ?? no wonder we all bugger off abroad..

Ronboyracer, totally agree with you, just been to a club site on Anglesey and the wardens are well fed up with the latest changes to the booking system.

 

[JamesEngland]

I support the new deposit booking scheme. Previously was impossible to book popular sites, selfish types would book months in advance on a just in case basis, then don’t show or cancel last minute at no cost.

 

[bigtwin]

Ronboyracer, totally agree with you, just been to a club site on Anglesey and the wardens are well fed up with the latest changes to the booking system.

Why would wardens be fed up with the system?

Ian

 

[Kenny-55]

It seems the cravan club has had a major shakeup and not for the better.

i have just used the new booking form on Caravan Club - with great difficulty as well.
Not only has it thrown away my outfit details and forgotton who i am ect. They now want a 25% deposit or all of it at the time of booking. This of course flies in the face of the gentleman club that they used to be where they trust you to turn up and treat you like grown ups. NO MORE it seems.
This has now placed them equal footing with " the friendly club " which of course isnt . Having just returned from south of france where we stayed at a 4 star site with 3 pools, a club, and a lake for 16 euros im more than pissed off to be told to pay 28.20 at Brean sands in October.
The - by comparison, fleecing folk for every penny for any reason make me sick of uk sites and the mentality of charging for people children and dogs to push up the profits - if europe can do a good site for 15 quid - why does a site in the uk think 30-40 quid is ok ?? no wonder we all bugger off abroad..

Out of interest what was the site in south of France you were on sounds great

 

[Kenny-55]

It seems the cravan club has had a major shakeup and not for the better.

i have just used the new booking form on Caravan Club - with great difficulty as well.
Not only has it thrown away my outfit details and forgotton who i am ect. They now want a 25% deposit or all of it at the time of booking. This of course flies in the face of the gentleman club that they used to be where they trust you to turn up and treat you like grown ups. NO MORE it seems.
This has now placed them equal footing with " the friendly club " which of course isnt . Having just returned from south of france where we stayed at a 4 star site with 3 pools, a club, and a lake for 16 euros im more than pissed off to be told to pay 28.20 at Brean sands in October.
The - by comparison, fleecing folk for every penny for any reason make me sick of uk sites and the mentality of charging for people children and dogs to push up the profits - if europe can do a good site for 15 quid - why does a site in the uk think 30-40 quid is ok ?

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[Bluemooner]

We are

It's a number of years back but I am aware of, at least, one couple having two independent memberships (both having paid the equivalent of the £54 nowadays) with different membership numbers as opposed to a lead and second membership. They had both a caravan and a campervan and were able to book two different sites as, sometimes, they travelled independently of each other. Not sure if that's still the case with the new system but how would it be able to stop you if partners both paid as lead members?

See above but also was told by a Warden a few years ago when talking to them about the no-show situation that they had a situation where they had a no-show and when calling the member to see if they were going to arrive late to be told something along the lines of "I don't think so as we're already pitched up on a different site. I must have forgot to cancel the booking with yourself!".

Are you two individual paid up members or lead and second member on one membership?

Correct and don't believe, in at least the last 10 years or so, you have been able to. Can't remember further back than that but found out on a few occasions where I've inadvertently got confused (ain't that difficult!) and tried to book the same date (normally cause I'd overlapped the "moving date".

We are lead and second member on one membership

 

[Langtoftlad]

Never had a problem with the old system... suspect I'll not have any problems with the new one.

 

[MichaelT]

I support the new deposit booking scheme. Previously was impossible to book popular sites, selfish types would book months in advance on a just in case basis, then don’t show or cancel last minute at no cost.

And your proof of this is?

 

[Kups]

Just pitched on a CAMC site using an long standing no deposit booking. Asked the warden what she thought of the new system "long overdue " was the answer. She added that she'd had her first deposit paid no show, "his loss, our gain" was her comment. No phone call, nothing. His loss. More money than manners?

 

[Mistiebleu 73]

It seems the cravan club has had a major shakeup and not for the better.

i have just used the new booking form on Caravan Club - with great difficulty as well.
Not only has it thrown away my outfit details and forgotton who i am ect. They now want a 25% deposit or all of it at the time of booking. This of course flies in the face of the gentleman club that they used to be where they trust you to turn up and treat you like grown ups. NO MORE it seems.
This has now placed them equal footing with " the friendly club " which of course isnt . Having just returned from south of france where we stayed at a 4 star site with 3 pools, a club, and a lake for 16 euros im more than pissed off to be told to pay 28.20 at Brean sands in October.
The - by comparison, fleecing folk for every penny for any reason make me sick of uk sites and the mentality of charging for people children and dogs to push up the profits - if europe can do a good site for 15 quid - why does a site in the uk think 30-40 quid is ok ?? no wonder we all bugger off abroad..

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[Mistiebleu 73]

My partner and I are newbies to motoerhome living and can totally relate it's way to expensive to be on any site in this country at anytime of year they need to visit sites in Europe and see just why we all go abroad

 

[LesW]

And your proof of this is?

It’s a well know issue, when we were looking to join one of the clubs, we spoke to some agents on the CAMC stand at the Peterborough show (in 2018 I think), I ask them about people multi booking and not turning up, they told me the club was aware of the problem and were trying to change things.

We joined the other lot.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

And your proof of this is?

There was a member on here last year who said he had all booked different sites for weeks in the summer, presumably he would then pick and choose where and when he went.
I’m all for paying when booking as it was a pain trying to get dates when I belonged to the clubs.

 

[The Wino]

There was a member on here last year who said he had all booked different sites for weeks in the summer, presumably he would then pick and choose where and when he went.
I’m all for paying when booking as it was a pain trying to get dates when I belonged to the clubs.

When our son lived in Edinburgh we always struggled to book then if we kept ringing eventually we would get a space often having to book days as they became available. I'm sure it was cancellations. What I don't know is how many nights were lost due to no shows who never bothered to cancel. I do know from years of working with the public that although the vast majority are polite trustworthy and reliable if you assume they all are your going to be dissapointed. Our problem at work was often people elegible for an NHS funded eye exam who thought as it was free if something else cropped up theyd just not turn up. In the end with repeat offenders we asked for a £30 deposit on booking if they arrived they could have a refund. A few got the hump and went elswehere but good riddance.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

When our son lived in Edinburgh we always struggled to book then if we kept ringing eventually we would get a space often having to book days as they became available. I'm sure it was cancellations.

We have been to a few sites that when I booked where nearly full but when we stayed had a fair few empty pitches

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[DT]

I don't mind paying deposits if it frees up pitches from the greedy few.

 

[Wack]

It's pure greed all ways have with caravan club

The key word there is 'club' if you're not happy with the way it's run then don't join it.

We have been to a few sites that when I booked where nearly full but when we stayed had a fair few empty pitches

York is like that, always booked but many don't turn up or cancel so the warden said

 

[joe and sue]

The key word there is 'club' if you're not happy with the way it's run then don't join it.

York is like that, always booked but many don't turn up or cancel so the warden said

that's why we rarely book when travelling, just call a site during the afternoon, and check availability, works for us most of the time, nearly always a no-show, if not then there is always a car park or pub nearby

 

[Miggs]

I went to Brean Sands once.......never again, awful place but opinions differ.

 

[Neil S]

I went to Brean Sands once.......never again, awful place but opinions differ.

Is that a club site ?
Neither clubs website's seem to have a site by that name

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[Miggs]

Is that a club site ?
Neither clubs website's seem to have a site by that name

The area in general is awful, I stayed at Northam Farm, the site itself wasn't bad, but the area is dire.
My own opinion of course.

 

[roadwarrior]

To clarify - brean sands are the SANDS there, clue is in the name but it doesnt surprise me that someone has used the name, i have been going to brean sands since i was a teenager (granted not much in the last 40 years but it seems much the same now) and it grew up as a cheap place for a holiday as it was just tents and static caravans back then - there is even still a Pontins there i believe !
Motorhomes had not been invented and folk just wanted a couple of pubs and beach, and a fish and chip shop, a kind of poor mans Blackpool then with a very long beach which you can drive on even now. When i was there a couple of months ago the beach had probably 200 cars and probably 20 motorhomes and was very busy.
Its fine that you think its dire, it serves as a place for poorer folk to go there ( and others to buy their latest motohome from ) and keeps the riff raff away from Miggs, who states he is a virgin so im sure you will have many more dire places to discover

The irony about Brean sands ( the place) is that it has a 3 mile beach which you can drive onto and its a secret thing known only to the locals and people who found it. i dont know of many beaches you can drive a motorhome or car onto for 5 quid for the day.

 

[intokenny]

To clarify - brean sands are the SANDS there, clue is in the name but it doesnt surprise me that someone has used the name, i have been going to brean sands since i was a teenager (granted not much in the last 40 years but it seems much the same now) and it grew up as a cheap place for a holiday as it was just tents and static caravans back then - there is even still a Pontins there i believe !
Motorhomes had not been invented and folk just wanted a couple of pubs and beach, and a fish and chip shop, a kind of poor mans Blackpool then with a very long beach which you can drive on even now. When i was there a couple of months ago the beach had probably 200 cars and probably 20 motorhomes and was very busy.
Its fine that you think its dire, it serves as a place for poorer folk to go there ( and others to buy their latest motohome from ) and keeps the riff raff away from Miggs, who states he is a virgin so im sure you will have many more dire places to discover

The irony about Brean sands ( the place) is that it has a 3 mile beach which you can drive onto and its a secret thing known only to the locals and people who found it. i dont know of many beaches you can drive a motorhome or car onto for 5 quid for the day.

It was also a place many, many many years ago where people learnt to drive.

 

[roadwarrior]

blimey on the beach you mean ? ? wow

 

[intokenny]

blimey on the beach you mean ? ? wow

Yes, on the beach

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