Caravan and Motorhome Club Price increases

I have long thought that the "Standing" charge is just robbery.
I agree. Standing charges are merely a wheeze that enables the utilities to forecast a more or less guaranteed minimum level of income regardless of customers' usage.
It's not dissimilar to the argument to discontinue the RFL (a standing charge) and put the duty up on petrol and diesel so that those who use the facility most, pay most.
 
I agree. Standing charges are merely a wheeze that enables the utilities to forecast a more or less guaranteed minimum level of income regardless of customers' usage.
It's not dissimilar to the argument to discontinue the RFL (a standing charge) and put the duty up on petrol and diesel so that those who use the facility most, pay most.

I would vote for the cessation of both. BUT as we all know "Fuel Duty" is dependent upon the price of Fuel. And the price of fuel is dependant upon the "Markets", who put it UP fast, and VERY SLOWLY reduce it!. It`s only competition as a "loss leader" between the big Supermarkets that keeps any sanity in (road) fuel prices in the UK. Left to the Petro; companies the prices would be sky high. THEY run a "back-room, word of mouth" Cartel. There is SUPPOSED to be competition in the energy market, but the trend is ALWAYS upward. NO ONE is paying less that they where before the 2008 recession. `Cos someone has to fund the "Bailouts" and WE are "Spot Ball", even though no one apart from a few "fat cats" has had a raise since!.
 
The cl I stay at has metered elec. Up from 14p to 18p a unit. They have to pay commercial prices.
As previously said, some say they are paying for it, so theyll use it.
I too have seen heaters in awnings in the evening while the campers are inside watching tv. A complete waster.
Everything has gone up. Wages, costs, maintenance, called cost of living.
You’re right costs have gone up but if you’re on a fixed income or not seen an increase, those people might have a little moan.
 
I would vote for the cessation of both. BUT as we all know "Fuel Duty" is dependent upon the price of Fuel.
Err, not exactly. 60% (about 74p per litre) of the pump price is always what we pay in fuel tax. The pump price may fluctuate a bit but even so 60% of it is always fuel tax.
 
Err, not exactly. 60% (about 74p per litre) of the pump price is fuel tax.
Not quite, as there are 2 taxes involved Fuel price+Fuel duty+VAT on both. so the Government get 2 bites at the tax cherry. So every 1p rise in basic price is 1.91p (rounded up) at the pump.

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Not quite, as there are 2 taxes involved Fuel price+Fuel duty+VAT on both. so the Government get 2 bites at the tax cherry. So every 1p rise in basic price is 1.91p (rounded up) at the pump.
Yes I'm aware of that but whatever the nitty-gritty figures used they are beside the point I was making which was that that the RFL is a fixed standing charge (income) in the same way as is line rental, but that the total cost varies according to usage/consumption.
 
I have long thought that the "Standing" charge is just robbery. Yest there are infrastucture costs INITIALLY, but making a Charge for NOT using, like when we where in the US for 6 months!. Is nothing short of highway robbery. (Dick Turpin, at least wore a mask!) Meter the usage properly and things happen 1) People know just what it costs 2) They reduce their consumption, 3) the planet benefits? (if you actually believe the "Green Hype" of course).
Here in spain the government gave in to their mates a few years back & , due to the sheer amount of 2nd, 3rd, 4th homes that might only be used for 2-4 weeks a year , they have realigned electric costs so that it is now all loaded onto the standing charges.
In addition you also have to remember that here you pay for every kw of supply you are contracted for. A 'normal' UK supply of 80 or 100A would set you back 200€/month in standing charges before you use any electric.
As I am a low user of electric with an average bill being around 45€/month when you break it down we have ;
standing charge for metering equipment rental,
subscribed Kw power capacity,
electricity tax,
vat,
the above usually average around 65% of the actual bill.



so 60% of it is always fuel tax.
I was wondering why the % amount had fallen but then realised that as price increases so the fuel duty % drops .
The actual amount as fuel duty for both petrol & diesel is 57,95p which is plus vat @20% so 69,95p, which is what you 'd pay even if it was supplied for nothing .
 
I was wondering why the % amount had fallen but then realised that as price increases so the fuel duty % drops .
The actual amount as fuel duty for both petrol & diesel is 57,95p which is plus vat @20% so 69,95p, which is what you 'd pay even if it was supplied for nothing .
Yes, I should've said that it's currently 60% fuel tax. However, as you rightly said, (oh, you didn't?) the really, really good news is that the higher the total fuel price the lower the percentage paid in fuel tax. :xsmile:
(That's my ex-Wife's sort of logic :xwink:)

Sigh, gone are the days of the early 60's when I could almost fill up my Mini for a pound. I still recall offering a gurl that I'd chatted up in the 'Whisky A Go-Go' club in Brighton a lift home. Unfortunately she lived 15 miles away at Newhaven (a lot of petrol for a mechanic on £3/10/0d a week) and I was running on fumes when I dropped her off. I still recall the garage guy's reply when I asked for 2/6d worth: "Blimey mate! You going tourin'?"
 
I got my email and thought poor buggers must be struggling to make ends meet. ;)
that and i mean that, is why we left, it would look as those the light brigde have, lost the plot,,pj
: in- charge:
 
Haven't had the email yet ...so

I guess mine hasn't increased :ROFLMAO:

in any case.. they provide excellent sites with great facilities and run professionally

and with over 2000 CLs, and many other member benefits, IMV excellent value for money (y)

let the nay sayers and FLTs park elsewhere .. no one forces you to join..

there are plenty of council carparks and lay-bys (y)
u r welcome 2 it, were it sticks, hope u have a good year, keep your nose to the ground, big sniffs smell the loot,
stink may be skunks,pj

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Always bugs me that I have to pay the same at a CaMC site even though I don't want EHU - and now they're putting the pitch price UP because electricity has gone up?

Blooming cheek. Shan't bother anymore. I nearly didn't renew this year.
 
The Caravan & Motorhome Club account managers are looking for a small increnase in site fee’s again this year, If they get their budget wrong all will be reviled in the year end accounts for all to see.
 
That's blown it now!! means won't be able to book a weekend at all...as Friday or Saturday or Sunday nights will be booked by the 'one nighters' (number of weekends where only one night is fully booked this last 12 months has been very annoying!!!
 
Why does the weekend start on a Friday?
Why can’t I book a pitch and not have electric if I don’t want it. And if they do have pitches without electric they are always in dark dingy muddy corners of the site far away from conveniences. Many sites say you have to have electric or go elsewhere. I’ve not rejoined for coming year.
 
Are the prices shown now the old prices? I’ll have a go !

Well I’ve had a look at Baltic Wharf Bristol and this is the page
https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-...gland/bristol/baltic-wharf-caravan-club-site/

Tomorrow night is currently cheaper than the same date in 2019..... maybe they have not yet updated the website.
If you can get a pitch here! Most popular site on club network and usually pitches for any stays are gone as soon as bookings window opens. After Feb/ March forget it.

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If you can get a pitch here! Most popular site on club network and usually pitches for any stays are gone as soon as bookings window opens. After Feb/ March forget it.
I have managed every year to get in here. You have to be savvy, they do get cancellations(not interested in peeps saying “all those one day bookers”). Also they will take name and number and call you back should a space come available, which is more than Rowntree do.if it’s somewhere you really want to go to keep an eye on the availability. It’s never failed me yet. Also be aware it is supposed to be closing, but has had a reprieve, till when, I don’t know. They have a 3 mth warning I believe.
 
I started this thread for information really because I think one of the reasons given for the increase, the claim of 25% increase in electricity is exagerated and I doubt that other utility prices have gone up much either. I don't object to an increase in site fees because of the living wage increase but I would think the Club could have absorbed that as it is quite small.

Please don't make this yet another diatribe about FLT's, or the benefits or otherwise of sites. That isn't what the thread is about, its isn't necessary and it certainly isn't fun.:)
 
A price increase won’t affect us as we are leaving them at the year end. We could rarely get on a chosen site. Fully booked months in advance.

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not inter camping club they have lost it,or me ,pj
 
sorry i should have said, caravan club ive lost it ,pj for good by.
 
The price increase might be my fault I cancelled my membership
For next year:xsad::xsad:
 
Business electricity rates are different from domestic rates - this could be why there is such a big increase in the electricity charges
 
It’s not what you say but the way you say it.

“let the nay sayers and Fur Lined Thongs park elsewhere .. no one forces you to join..

there are plenty of council carparks and lay-bys ”

An attack , perhaps not. Derisive, some may think so.

Defend the club(of which I have also a member for many years ) if you like.
back in your cage with your dog stop snapping stick in the mud,pj

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I Think that's fair, it gives people not only a choice as to whether they use electricity but also, if they do, how much.

How will you manage payment, slot meter, prepaid card, up front deposit etc?
were is the cage,pj
 
Being a Caravan and Motorhome Club member for many years I’m happy to receive the emails from the sales department reminding me and others that they still have pitches available on local / other sites because they are just doing their job to raise more money for the club so they can purchase more new sites and upgrade others. The difficulty booking the Bristol site is well known and hopefully will be addressed when the funds allow.
 
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Now we are told the membership is going up to £52 !!
 

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