Camping Gaz 907 cylinders……….. outrageous price!

[Chockswahay]

So then team, just to make any of you feel better about the cost of gas for yo mo ho’s, spare a thought for those of us that have to use the stupidly small and ridiculously expensive Camping Gaz cylinders

Now that we have a smaller van and using my previous Gaslow cylinders is not an option (still got the small one for sale btw) I have worked out a way to refill the 907’s myself at home. All it took was the acquisition of an empty 15 Kg Calor Butane cylinder and a pigtail and adaptor to connect to the 907. I have filled up two of my 907’s for a quarter of the price of exchange cylinders Still at least twice the price compared to LPG massive savings compared to Butane form Camping Gaz

In the grand scheme of things, depending on where you buy your gas……

1 Kg of LPG from a filling station …………………………………….. £1.50

1 Kg of Calor Butane from a 15Kg cylinder…………………………. £3.33

1 Kg of Camping Gaz butane from a 907 cylinder ……………….. £13.33

I used to have Gaslow refills on previous van so the LPG price sets the cost comparison.

For the refill procedure I weighed the cylinders accurately before and after so that I did not overfill.

An empty 15Kg Calor cylinder cost me £10 off Gumtree, the pigtail and adaptor cost just under £32 from BES and a refill exchange for a full cylinder cost £50

I’m QUIDS in!

 

[jumar]

So then team, just to make any of you feel better about the cost of gas for yo mo ho’s, spare a thought for those of us that have to use the stupidly small and ridiculously expensive Camping Gaz cylinders

Now that we have a smaller van and using my previous Gaslow cylinders is not an option (still got the small one for sale btw) I have worked out a way to refill the 907’s myself at home. All it took was the acquisition of an empty 15 Kg Calor Butane cylinder and a pigtail and adaptor to connect to the 907. I have filled up two of my 907’s for a quarter of the price of exchange cylinders Still at least twice the price compared to LPG massive savings compared to Butane form Camping Gaz

In the grand scheme of things, depending on where you buy your gas……

1 Kg of LPG from a filling station …………………………………….. £1.50

1 Kg of Calor Butane from a 15Kg cylinder…………………………. £3.33

1 Kg of Camping Gaz butane from a 907 cylinder ……………….. £13.33

I used to have Gaslow refills on previous van so the LPG price sets the cost comparison.

For the refill procedure I weighed the cylinders accurately before and after so that I did not overfill.

An empty 15Kg Calor cylinder cost me £10 off Gumtree, the pigtail and adaptor cost just under £32 from BES and a refill exchange for a full cylinder cost £50

I’m QUIDS in!

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OMG...,,,,,

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Looks like its ready for take off.

Would have been better if the camping Gaz bottle was on a set of scales .

 

[Chockswahay]

Looks like its ready for take off.

Would have been better if the camping Gaz bottle was on a set of scales .

That would be nice but my digital scales set their memory after a few seconds so the cylinder would have to come off to weigh anyway. Also at least weighing separately isn’t affected by the weight/leverage of the pigtail. As it happens on the first fill it was quicker than I expected and overfilled by 300 grams so I did have to vent that off…… but all good now

 

[eddie]

How do you stop gravity at 80%?

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[JockandRita]

OMG...,,,,,

That's putting it very politely. It's got to be a wind up Martin, surely?

Jock.

 

[eddie]

Table works well

 

[andyman]

Gaslow do a 2.7kg cylinder, would one of those fit ?

 

[Chockswahay]

How do you stop gravity at 80%?

With an off valve

 

[paddymcc]

The fancy table must have cost a bit though

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[Chockswahay]

Gaslow do a 2.7kg cylinder, would one of those fit ?

They do but it won’t fit inside the gas locker on the California which is integrated inside the fresh water tank

 

[Chockswahay]

The fancy table must have cost a bit though

Haha funny you should say that! Mrs Chocks got it (and one chair) for free on Gumtree a few years ago

 

[Chockswahay]

That's putting it very politely. It's got to be a wind up Martin, surely?

Jock.

Why?

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Haha funny you should say that! Mrs Chocks got it (and one chair) for free on Gumtree a few years ago

Its a ready made launch pad.

You would be better off just using the canister cassette gas cartridges with a portable camp stove.The cartridges are £3.99 for 4 in Home bargains, they hold a half litre ( 0.254 kg)
That's £2 per litre (£4 per kg)
A much better alternative

 

[jumar]

How do you stop gravity at 80%?

Easy...fill it full and then vent off 20% into the air.....how do I know, Well I was a Petroleum Inspection officer as part of my Fire Officer duties...and believe me it was done....another part of my job was to attend fires in industrial and private dwellings that had Butane and Propane mishaps....if you've never seen one rupture, there are YouTube videos....or join the Fire Service and see it for real... Right Jock?

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[Chockswahay]

Here we go the usual holier than thou witch hunt, without all the information! I am well aware of the space required for expansion and having filled hot air balloon cylinders with many thousands of litres of propane over many years as a professional pilot I lay claim to knowing what I am doing. No I do not fill to full before venting but if overfill does take place then in a safe open ventilated area without any source of ignition it is no big deal. As an aside the Butane boils off at -2 C and generally is pressurised at less that 2 bar which is considerably less than Propane at around 10 bar.

More risk is involved filling with LPG at a petrol filling station forecourt.

 

[Odd-no-more]

I was shown cylinder filling when I did my first LPG course at Calor gas 30 years ago. This was done to fill the demo cylinders they had with a glass panel. I don't think they would do it now.

 

[cyberyacht]

Change the van or build a bigger gas locker.

 

[JockandRita]

Easy...fill it full and then vent off 20% into the air.....how do I know, Well I was a Petroleum Inspection officer as part of my Fire Officer duties...and believe me it was done....another part of my job was to attend fires in industrial and private dwellings that had Butane and Propane mishaps....if you've never seen one rupture, there are YouTube videos....or join the Fire Service and see it for real... Right Jock?

Absolutely bang on there Martin ..................and absolutely nothing to do with being "holier that thou" as suggested by the OP, whose precision safety spanner, can be seen lying on the grass to the right of the picture.

Change the van or build a bigger gas locker.

Possibly the best way to solve the problem.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Boringfrog]

LPGs £1.50 a ltr at a filling station?

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[gus-lopez]

I think the 907's are £35 in the UK whereas here when I asked uesterday they were 18,90€.
years ago we used to have to decant refrigeration gases from large cylinders into small ones for shop work. Far better to vacuum the small cylinder out & leave in adeep freeze overnight before filling if you had the time.

 

[Chockswahay]

Absolutely bang on there Martin ..................and absolutely nothing to do with being "holier that thou" as suggested by the OP, whose precision safety spanner, can be seen lying on the grass to the right of the picture.


Possibly the best way to solve the problem.

Cheers,

Jock.

Oh dear, well you two carry on chatting away to each other as if I wasn’t here. The procedure is safe if carried out in a suitable environment and with common sense. As for the asinine remark about safety spanner you have no idea what the adjustable spanner is there for.

 

[Chockswahay]

LPGs £1.50 a ltr at a filling station?

About 75 pence a litre but I have only taken that figure from local garage

 

[Orion]

……… what the adjustable spanner is there for.

Water pump pliers.

 

[Spriddler]

It must be tempting for Camping Gaz users.
I've just paid £34 at a Calor depot to exchange a 6kg propane cylinder for my son's caravan - quite an increase from around £26 for the previous one about 8 months ago.

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[Bonsaiman]

It must be tempting for Camping Gaz users.
I've just paid £34 at a Calor depot to exchange a 6kg propane cylinder for my son's caravan - quite an increase from around £26 for the previous one about 8 months ago.

I bought a 6kg propane yesterday from my local garden centre - £26.75 up from £24.50 the last one I bought

Think there is a bit of profiteering going on at £34

 

[Spriddler]

I bought a 6kg propane yesterday from my local garden centre - £26.75 up from £24.50 the last one I bought

Think there is a bit of profiteering going on at £34

Hmm. P'raps it was 'old' stock if there is such a thing bearing in mind the scarcity since the start of the pandemic.
Mine was from a main Calor distribution centre where availability has been very erratic with a rapid turnover. I have to phone to check first and because they were low on exchange cylinders I paid over the phone there and then before driving the 17 miles to them later that day. When I arrived they were out of stock except for mine, much to the chagrin of one campervan and two caravan owners parked in their yard.

 

[makems]

I think the 907's are £35 in the UK whereas here when I asked uesterday they were 18,90€.
years ago we used to have to decant refrigeration gases from large cylinders into small ones for shop work. Far better to vacuum the small cylinder out & leave in adeep freeze overnight before filling if you had the time.

”907s” used to be less than a quid in Morocco including the cylinder. Although I gave up the Moho 5 years ago I still have a couple of full Moroccan “907s” in my shed for when the patio gas cylinder is finally empty.

 

[Odd-no-more]

Hmm. P'raps it was 'old' stock if there is such a thing bearing in mind the scarcity since the start of the pandemic.
Mine was from a main Calor distribution centre where availability has been very erratic with a rapid turnover. I have to phone to check first and because they were low on exchange cylinders I paid over the phone there and then before driving the 17 miles to them later that day. When I arrived they were out of stock except for mine, much to the chagrin of one campervan and two caravan owners parked in their yard.

I have calor 6 kg and I am going to change to Flogas they are still £25 our gas use is not great we go for EHU early and late in the season so only cooking and when it's sunny enough for solar the fridge, last year we used one 6kg cylinder all year, and we did have to use the gas heating a couple of times for a sudden cold snap. I just need to get an empty Flogas cylinder

 

[chaser]

I have calor 6 kg and I am going to change to Flogas they are still £25 our gas use is not great we go for EHU early and late in the season so only cooking and when it's sunny enough for solar the fridge, last year we used one 6kg cylinder all year, and we did have to use the gas heating a couple of times for a sudden cold snap. I just need to get an empty Flogas cylinder

Don't know where you are but there is one here.

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