Britstops and closed pubs

[EX51SSS]

It appears to me that some can't understand

 

[Boy]

Never been called a troll !!! before for expressing an opinion that if you use some it would be reasonable
to contribute to wards the up keep after all said and done you but the book
happy days

 

[EX51SSS]

Never been called a troll !!! before for expressing an opinion that if you use some it would be reasonable
to contribute to wards the up keep after all said and done you but the book
happy days

Their regular clientele do that. The car park is an empty or near empty space and they welcome someone parking on there. It appears that the pub is popular.
Yes, you can have an opinion as you have but by your own admission, you fished deliberately
Maybe troll a little forward but you're getting there.

In internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional ...

 

[Nirvanauk]

Not at all. Read the terms and conditions of Brit Stops

 

[Nirvanauk]

Not at all. Read the terms and conditions of Brit Stops

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[Steve and Denise]

Oh dear a thought comes to mind that there are people who can not see the wood for the trees
happy days

You will always come across one splitting hairs ? no point in trying to change the unchangeable?

 

[EX51SSS]

 

[Boy]

I don’t have a pub car park but the big but a minor contribution for sleeping in your camper van would
not be unreasonable but who I am I to express a opinion . On why would seem to be fair to me
happy days
keep the wind in your sails

 

[kevenh]

The difference in opinion on how to use a free night’s stay is because Britstops’ t&c and MH visitors’ honour/etiquette are different things.

Why would hosts allow us to stay on their property for free? What's the catch?

One reason is that they do not have to provide any facilities over and above a parking space! However Brit Stops hosts are also passionate about the local produce they offer to the public, and the more visitors they have the better the chance they have of spreading the word about fresh, sustainable produce. Although they will not oblige you to buy from their shops, they are confident that when you see the quality of their wares and experience the personal service offered by the producer/retailer, you will find it difficult not to purchase! Even if you do not buy anything your positive experience will be spread, and this will bring more customers. The only thing you may be charged for (and you may not, but don't forget to ask) is electricity if it is provided.

 

[CamperJack]

The difference in opinion on how to use a free night’s stay is because Britstops’ t&c and MH visitors’ honour/etiquette are different things.

Nail hit rather resolutely on the head there, I think.

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[EX51SSS]

I don’t have a pub car park but the big but a minor contribution for sleeping in your camper van would
not be unreasonable but who I am I to express a opinion . On why would seem to be fair to me
happy days
keep the wind in your sails

See post from kevenh .

 

[ceejayt]

OMG - this was NIOT a thread about whether you should buy something at a BritStop or not, it was about using a pub car park in lock down.

Take a breath?

 

[Spriddler]

Isn't the idea for the pub they let you park up in return for some business in the bar or dining room?

No food & drink = no parking IMHO

Quite. I wouldn't sit at an open or closed pub garden bench and eat my own sandwiches.

 

[Steve and Denise]

OMG - this was NIOT a thread about whether you should buy something at a BritStop or not, it was about using a pub car park in lock down.

Take a breath?

Ha ha I started one about a speed camera van it’s now a pension post?

 

[EX51SSS]

Quite. I wouldn't sit at an open or closed pub garden bench and eat my own sandwiches.

Neither would I.

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[EX51SSS]

OMG - this was NIOT a thread about whether you should buy something at a BritStop or not, it was about using a pub car park in lock down.

Take a breath?

But you did drop the name Brit Stops in there and it's always emotive as you can see.

 

[ceejayt]

But you did drop the name Brit Stops in there and it's always emotive as you can see.

Indeed it is - not sure what everyones problem is with it but it always creates a stir - don't seem to get the same result for French Passion sites??

 

[bigtwin]

I think you'll find its called trespass!

For the general public yes but this thread is specifically about Britstops. Britstops hosts welcome members.

Isn't the idea for the pub they let you park up in return for some business in the bar or dining room?

No food & drink = no parking IMHO

No, there is no obligation for Britstops members to purchase goods. However, most do and is the reasons why hosts are part of the scheme.

There are still a lot of takers about makes you wonder what ever next .
I love to pull up in a pub car park and have a nice meal and a couple of pints just the job . No driving and settle down for the night
what’s the matter with these people who think the world and it wife own them a free ride
happy days

Britstops members pay a fee for access to the directory of hosts. Most members avail themselves of the goods and services that their hosts provide. Hard to see how that can be considered a free ride.

Rather mean spirited though not to buy a drink at least, don't you think? I'm sure if everyone had that attitude most pubs would cancel any participation and save car parking space for paying guests. And wouldn't that rather spoil the fun for all us happy campers?

That’s the point, the majority of Britstops members do purchase from their hosts but that doesn’t change the fact that the rules of the scheme (that the hosts sign up to) require that there is no obligation to do so.

It is mean spirited because you might pay for a book but what's the pub getting? Like I said, if everyone had that attitude there would be no pubs in your book.

A free entry in a directory of hosts and a high probability that Britstops members will spend in their establishment.

It is mean spirited because you might pay for a book but what's the pub getting? Like I said, if everyone had that attitude there would be no pubs in your book.

It isn’t an attitude it’s a mutually agreed basis for membership. Most Britstop members spend in hosts establishments and hosts know this; that’s why they sign up to the scheme.

IMO, as someone who relies on a pub for their living, parking for free and not buying anything is a little cheeky and not in the spirit of things. Agree or not I think that's a reasonable viewpoint and you're not going to change it. So I'll leave it there.

If your establishment hasn’t agreed to be a Britstops host I would 100% agree with you. One of the good things about Britstops is that hosts have agreed to be listed. This contrasts with other ‘schemes’ (Apps and websites) where anyone can add an establishment to the database (without hosts knowledge); this can result in folks turning up at establishments. Some proportion of those will behave unreasonably (not introducing themselves to the business and not spending there). As a business, which of these two case would you prefer?

If your establishment has signed up as a host and then insisted that a Britstops member spent money in their establishment then that would also not be “in the spirit of things”, in fact, it would be breaking the rules of the scheme. Where this has occurred, hosts have been removed from the directory.

The Britstops model is based on a number of long running similar schemes on the continent. Those schemes have tens of thousands of hosts who see the benefit of membership. I struggle to see why so many in the UK have such difficulty with it.

Never been called a troll !!! before for expressing an opinion that if you use some it would be reasonable to contribute to wards the up keep after all said and done you but the book
happy days

The majority of Britstops members do exactly that.

Ian

 

[EX51SSS]

Indeed it is - not sure what everyones problem is with it but it always creates a stir - don't seem to get the same result for French Passion sites??

Ah, that's the difference. France Passion expect you to buy whereas Brit Stops don't. Same idea but different set up.

 

[ceejayt]

Ah, that's the difference. France Passion expect you to buy whereas Brit Stops don't. Same idea but different set up.

They may expect it but again, there is no requirement - there is something along the lines of 'it might be a nice idea to'

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[EX51SSS]

I will say now that I've never been to a Brit Stops and not bought something.
We stayed at a pub but it closed early that day so couldn't use (it was open when we arrived but went shopping and also spoke to the landlord. Next day, we had a few drinks as the restaurant was closed but did get a brilliant meal the following day.
We stayed at a vineyard and bought and drank a very expensive bottle of their Rosè but thoroughly enjoyed. Stayed at a leisure centre and used ehu @£5.00 (optional) and free use of the centre.
However, the principle is that I AM NOT obliged to.

 

[EX51SSS]

They may expect it but again, there is no requirement - there is something along the lines of 'it might be a nice idea to'

But that's not Brit Stops principle

 

[joe and sue]

It appears to me that some cant understand

As I have said before:

For those who understand: No explanation is necessary
For those who do not understand: No explanation is possible.

Re. Britstops, we have used them many times for an over-night stop, and as we need to eat we do so, and have had some really nice stops.
We would never dream of just using the car=park over-night, and especially if the pub / venue is closed, as that would not only be trespass, but downright rude.

 

[gus-lopez]

Ha ha I started one about a speed camera van it’s now a pension post?

go on, you're pulling me leg

Britstops hosts welcome members.

Yes but probably not when they are closed?
I'd never even consider parking anywhere were I was going to contribute .I don't drink so wouldn't even consider a pub car park & unlikely to be buying anything at a farm shop or garden centre.

 

[Spriddler]

…... it was about using a pub car park in lock down.
Take a breath?

In short, rude and unacceptable. Wouldn't even occur to me.

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[Rob Turner]

Why not. £10 per night.

 

[glenn2926]

I certainly have. Quite a few. Not all pubs sell food you know. Or are you suggesting I should buy peanuts, crisps etc.
If everyone had that attitude they may well stop allowing but that's not the case.
You are entitled to your opinion but that's not the principle that Brit Stops is founded on.
You can find stopovers on the net quite easily without buying the book.
I went to one pub and I was the first member to go and they'd been in the book for 3 years.

They might not sell food but I’ve never been in a pub that didn’t sell non alcoholic drinks.

 

[ceejayt]

But that's not Brit Stops principle

Strangely, I have probably never stopped at a Britstop without buying something but have often stopped at French Passion without - often because it's a little farm with no one about and I think the same principle applies

 

[peterc10]

Wgy is it mean spirited? Not all stops are pubs you know.
The principal behind Brit Stops is that you're not obliged to buy anything.
Have you stopped at Brit Stops stops?

Every Brit stop I have used has been a business and they join because they think they will get some business from it. If everybody who stayed did not spend in their business they would soon leave. I am afraid that we could not bring ourselves to use their car park without spending something. Our conscience would not let us.

We don't care that we have the "right" to use it without spending. It is more about having a responsibility to keep good things going. The same when we use Aires in French villages. We always try to spend some money in the local shop, baker, bar or restaurant.

And if saying this makes me a troll, so be it.

 

[EX51SSS]

Strangely, I have probably never stopped at a Britstop without buying something but have often stopped at French Passion without - often because it's a little farm with no one about and I think the same principle applies

Well I think my last reply explained about Brit Stops and you're very fortunate as I never stopped on a France Passion without being told to buy something. I even went to one where the restaurant was closed that day and they actually opened up. It's ok, nice meal and seriously, I don't have a problem at buying something from places but what I'm saying is that with Brit Stops, you're not obliged to. I do buy but I'm not obliged to .
That's all I'm saying and I think that's pretty clear

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