Best make of motorhome to store motorcycle
- Thread starter Lanielush
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- Oct 25, 2016
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I had a Dave Cooper tow bar scooter rack fitted and bought a new Honda SH 150............lasted 100 miles on the scooter. Took the rack off and flogged it then flogged the scooter.
Now have a 750cc X-ADV and put it on a Motolug trailer.......works for me.
If i was into MHing i would buy one of those big things some have and stick the biggest bike in that will fit........sod the weight.
Now have a 750cc X-ADV and put it on a Motolug trailer.......works for me.
If i was into MHing i would buy one of those big things some have and stick the biggest bike in that will fit........sod the weight.
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When you load a bike up in the garage or rear rack, you've got to remember that it's behind the rear axle. So each kg of bike will take a little weight off the front axle and add a bit more than a kg to the rear. So if you're loading 150kg of bike, you'll need more than that 150kg spare on the rear.
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I have noticed that all these recommendations mostly deal with a combination of bikes and higher end motorhomes and presuming that the bikes are fairly heavy. Presently have a bespoke fixed carrier on the back of mine which copes with bikes up to 250cc approx and I am happy with that, and I do have air assistance and have no probs ar all at 3,500 However has nobody thought about a Rimor motorhome with the big garage that would at least cope with lightweight stuff, and it is affordable. From what I can see they are basic re equipment, not many bells a whistles.
So are they so bad that nobody owns one or wants one, maybe the use of a lot of wood re the shell and this puts people off buying, I have never seen a spec re the construction of these.
So are they so bad that nobody owns one or wants one, maybe the use of a lot of wood re the shell and this puts people off buying, I have never seen a spec re the construction of these.
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Thanks. That's really interesting. I notice the support beam has Alko referenced on it. Does this mean you have an alko chassis as I am running on the FIAT light chassis? A real shame Watling Engineering closed. I spoke to Southdown Motorhomes about reinforcing the rear garage floor and they would only refer me to Watling (not being aware they had closed).
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- Dec 31, 2021
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Our adria has the island bed that can be raised to allow more height clearance in the garage but while raised it cant be slept in so just for an overnight stop would be a pita to have to take a bike out of the garage then put it back again before moving on.
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You could fit one in the garage of our Sunlight T68. By fitting a towbar, or at least the chassis strengthening for a tow bracket, it doubles the weight capacity of the garage.
vans with twin beds seem like ours have greater height in the garage.
Even though a 3500 weight limit, easy upgrade to 3850.
vans with twin beds seem like ours have greater height in the garage.
Even though a 3500 weight limit, easy upgrade to 3850.
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- Oct 18, 2021
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Which company manufactured your carrier, or is a home brew?
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Hi Andy, I'm on the light chassis as well, but currently have a rating of 1850F axle, and 2240B axle total 4090kg.
The difficulty, is getting that load froward enough to use all the front axle, but our cold and waste water tanks are midship, so that helps quite a lot.
Mike.
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Thanks Mike. I'm going to look into your solution for reinforcing the garage. My front axle has a limit of 1960 and 2240 on thd rear and like yours our fresh and cold water tanks are amidships. When we run out with the scooter loaded we carry a flippin' big 177lt storage box strapped down on one of the opposing bench seats so we can carry stuff that we can't fit in the garage (weight wise) with the scooter loaded. We get to site and the scooter comes out and the storage box goes in. The trouble is Burstner, in their manual, suggest the 150kg limit should be an excption but don't say for how long. So what is their recommended maximim?....no idea, and occasionally we have run the garage at 165-170kg and just a little nervous about this. Are Burstner being overly cautious or are we being overly irresponsible by exceeding the max garage weight, even if it is no more than 20kg?
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We have an Etrusco i7400 a class we carry a Honda 125 scooter 116kg in the bag and the garage is height adjustable. We recently bought a trailer which is great but you cannot reverse with it, but saves your garage space. In Italy they all had electric mopeds in their vans much lighter !
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Clive Mott
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If you are looking, at rear garage motorhomes then its sensibily going to be over 3500KG rated. Ours for some 8 years was a, Concorde Charisma based on a Merc 316. About 6500kG ish.
Today and down to 3500 KG we tow a box trailer.
Today and down to 3500 KG we tow a box trailer.
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions
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big bikes,long overhang,good for knocking out wheel bearings. i have a weinsberg 650 carcore, honda cub fits nicely and does the job ok
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I can only suggest having a look underneath at the current rails and take a view on it. I also screwed some angle bracket the full width of dropped down section of the garage box. This was to help absorb the point loading of the centre stand as our scooter travels better that way.
Mike.
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Another vote for carthago. Got a C Tourer 150 QB and a BMW g310r that fits in the garage with the mirrors removed. The van is 4250 kg. We weighed it empty and had 600kg available with 600kg available on the rear axel. I believe the garage will take 350kg. Wouldn't travel with a full water tank with the bike on board though, but carthago has a nice feature that you can empty the tank leaving 20 litres in there, specially for travel.
We were looking at the duke 390, but the BMW is better for a pillion. It is also surprising good with a pillion, zipping around at 50 mph no problem
We were looking at the duke 390, but the BMW is better for a pillion. It is also surprising good with a pillion, zipping around at 50 mph no problem
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Here you go, these save a load of hassle, I have them on our wave.
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Others are randomly available on Ebay cheaper.
Mike.
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- Jun 17, 2019
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We have a Knaus Sky Ti 650MG and when we bought it new in 2016 we had the garage load upgraded from 150Kg to 250 kg which also improves the rear axle loading; it has stronger springs and a reinforced rear subframe. I've had several bikes in the garage over the years (Yamaha MT-03, Kawasaki Z250, Honda Grom) but I've now settled on a Honda CB300R which we've had since 2018. The Honda is 143Kg wet. It's significantly lighter (and slightly smaller) than the KTM 390 Duke and BMW G310R. It has more than enough power and torque to haul me and my wife about on holidays and with a tank bag and Ventura luggage on the back it's a great shopping trolley too. Sits comfortably at 70MPH all day, so quite safe on motorways, and being a Honda (albeit one built in Thailand) it's super reliable and cgheap to run and insure. I have a Sealey Bike Chock in the garage mounted on a wooden "plate" so it can be removed if required. Van is plated at 3500Kg and we're OK on payload most of the time. Had it on a weighbridge recently though before going away fully loaded with the bike and a load of other stuff in the back and we were slighly over (but still well within the premitted axle weights) so I might up-plate. My experience suggests 3500Kg is tight if you want a bike bigger than a Grom but it can work. In summary, the Honda CB300R is the best "van bike" I've found so far by a mile in terms of size, weight, performance and comfort and I only need to remove the bar ends and mirrors to get it in the van garage - a 2 minute job. Finally, a word of caution re: the Honda Grom. As much as I loved my Grom, they just don't work on anything bigger than local back roads or for town / city commuting. They are a liability on more open A & B roads and even solo you'll have lorries up your backside on the slightest uphill incline. Makes you feel very vulnerable. Truly hopeless two up.
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We had a fiat ducato 6.3 metre van converted to a campervan to take our motorbike. We take our Truimph Tiger 850 or Suzuki GT 550 . Had an electric winch and ramp fitted . Make Sawiko.
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My previous van was on an Iveco chassis with twin rear wheels and a 3.7 ton rear axle. Carried a 300cc Honda scooter on a custom made rack.
I would probably look for something like that. Motorbikes are heavy and if you load them behind the rear axle you need to do the calcs - they have a huge impact on rear axle payload.
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- Nov 11, 2021
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I did a lot of research into this and decided on the Carthago e-line. Specified the rear air suspension and chequer plate floor in garage. This gives 4800 kg total vehicle weight. I can carry my Husqvarna Norden Expedition which is about 210 kg no problem. Just remove the screen and mirrors and fits fine. With two mountain bikes and chairs +. Ktm adventure 890R fits in to. I don't think the Yamaha T7 will fit as too high. All this planning worked well, until my partner wanted her bike with us. So now on some trips I tow a bike trailer.
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I have a Burstner (7.3mts and 4 tonne) with a garage and scooter fits fine had to get a Carry Moto rail though. They are well worth the £300 (may find one cheaper on ebay) as very easy to load bike into van can be done on your own or 15 minutes with 2 people. When originally fitted didn't have the door the other side hence the need to use rope pulley to get it in and secure. I doubled up the floor stiffener because of extra weight. All mounting eyes put in with "peel rivets" which curly up inside polystyrene insulation to secure against the plywood. I removed the mirrors (obviously) and used the thread holes to fit pulling/ securing points (mine were left handed these available on internet. With the ratchet tie down and side securing brackets bike is solid in garage. Couple of notes don't put bike into garage immediately after using it otherwise there is a build up of petrol fumes. After you have driven 10 miles or so stop and check bike OK this also refreshes the air in garage and you would smell the fumes if they were building up. Hope the photo's are self explaining otherwise write back. You can only get away with a bike or scooter on a 3.5tonne motorhome by using the towing platform with extra jockey wheels and you will need a C1 license either way.
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MCL manufactured bespoke motor homes in North Wales up until about 2014. They were built on either Mercedes or MAN lorry chassis. They all have large garages in the stern and some, particularly the ones built on the 10 tonne MAN chassis, had an overhead extending and retracting frame with a winch designed to pick up a Harley Davidson and stow it in its fixed stowage on the deck of the garage. They are pretty rare beasts so you might have difficulty in finding one and of course you will need a HGV licence.
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- Sep 7, 2020
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Really? How can I check? That would be a game changer!
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