Benefits of EU Dog passport (19 Viewers)

[GaryMo]

We are currently in France with our dog, first time we brought him, cost a small fortune.

We will be heading back in the next few days so need to visit vet and get wormer and certificate signed.

The cost quoted by vet seems a lot 55 euro. But for 10euro more they will supply a passport.

So what will the benefits be of a passport? And I thought you needed a permanent EU address, can they still issue one?.

The vets is highly rated based in Luxembourg

 

[15edward]

From the government
Check that the vet has filled in the following sections in the pet passport:

• details of ownership - you must sign section I if your pet passport was issued on or after 29 December 2014
• description of animal
• marking or identification of animal
• vaccination against rabies
• details of the vet issuing the passport (for passports issued from 29 December 2014)
• your dog’s tapeworm treatment (if needed)

Only vets in EU countries can enter rabies vaccination details into an EU pet passport.

If your pet passport does not have an up to date vaccination record, you’ll need an animal health certificate instead.

Any vet in any country can put tapeworm treatment details into a pet passport.

 

[Sticky Biscuit]

We are currently in France with our dog, first time we brought him, cost a small fortune.

We will be heading back in the next few days so need to visit vet and get wormer and certificate signed.

The cost quoted by vet seems a lot 55 euro. But for 10euro more they will supply a passport.

So what will the benefits be of a passport? And I thought you needed a permanent EU address, can they still issue one?.

The vets is highly rated based in Luxembourg

We are currently in France with our dog, first time we brought him, cost a small fortune.

We will be heading back in the next few days so need to visit vet and get wormer and certificate signed.

The cost quoted by vet seems a lot 55 euro. But for 10euro more they will supply a passport.

So what will the benefits be of a passport? And I thought you needed a permanent EU address, can they still issue one?.

The vets is highly rated based in Luxembourg

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

 

[GaryMo]

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

I didn't vote for Brexit, so I'm quite happy to get my pet an EU passport, it's a pity I can't have a EU passport

 

[maz]

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

You can believe what you like but residency has never been a requirement for an EU Pet Passport, which is why Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc have been obtaining and using them for years. So there is no reason at all for Brits not to follow suit.

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[BrochMike]

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

What about your suggestion makes feel you must apologise or might make you think you could appear to be stupid?

Out of interest, do you have a pet you take on regular trips abroad (from UK)?

 

[BrochMike]

If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they...

... might investigate why it is so ludicrously expensive to get an EAHC?

 

[GaryMo]

... might investigate why it is so ludicrously expensive to get an EAHC?

Didn't you know, it's one of the benefits of Brexit.

 

[benimardriver]

French vets are not all singing from the same hymn sheet.

Many, probably most, will want your dog to be registered on I-cad - even though this makes no sense for non-resident dogs. The only actual law is that a dog must be registered on I-cad if it will be staying in France for more than 3 months.

Some vets will insist that I-cad registration has to be done before they will issue a Pet Passport - which can mean a 2-3 week delay before you actually obtain one. This will also require the use of a French address as the vet will want to see the I-cad registration card that arrives in the mail. A few will even demand to see 'proof of residency' such as a utility bill - which is ridiculous as residency has never been a legal requirement for any EU Pet Passport.

Some vets will issue you a Pet Passport at the same time as they fill in the form for I-cad registration. This is obviously much easier and generally means that you can use any old French address eg campsite. You do not need an I-cad registration card to cross borders, just the Pet Passport.

There are still a few sensible French vets who realise that I-cad registration is not necessary for a non-resident dog and will issue a Pet Passport without it and using your UK address. Unfortunately they seem to be few and far between. However, as mentioned earlier, I do have a list of French vets (around 40 of them) known to have recently issued Pet Passports to Brits. They are a good starting point to make enquiries as to their current requirements. Let me know if you would like a copy of the list.

Hi
Is it possible to have a list of these vets please

Thanks
Colin

 

[Moss]

There were no new 'rules' just misinterpretations of that 'Brexit statement' on the I-cad website. BTW that notorious statement has now disappeared.

Hi Maz we have had a pet passport for couple of years need to get new 3 year rabies early next year. Would you be kind enough to send me the vet list. Moss

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[Pantouffle]

You can believe what you like but residency has never been a requirement for an EU Pet Passport, which is why Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc have been obtaining and using them for years. So there is no reason at all for Brits not to follow suit.

And this is why Irish ex racing greyhounds that are re homed in UK come with an EU pet passport. Where they or their owners live is irrelevant.

 

[maz]

Hi
Is it possible to have a list of these vets please

Thanks
Colin

Just sent you a PM.

 

[maz]

Hi Maz we have had a pet passport for couple of years need to get new 3 year rabies early next year. Would you be kind enough to send me the vet list. Moss

Just sent you a PM as well. You shouldn't have much trouble just getting a booster tho'.

 

[CAB96]

Madly, not needed to go to RoI from NI?

They are needed.

It is just that there are no checks, because there is no infrastructure on the border, which is a deliberate decision and part of the Good Friday agreement and subsequent agreements.

 

[Joethejoiner]

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

Is this some kind of obscure , principled stance you're taking ?
It is an absolute cracker .

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[Minxy]

Sorry and call me stupid but I believe that if your only home is in the UK then you should pay up and get an EHC. If the press found out that a Brexit voting MP used an EU pet passport they would take him/her to the cleaners.

Okay, I'll call you stupid if you want me to!

As has already been mentioned above there is in no restriction preventing dogs resident in the UK from getting an EU pet passport, nor other non EU countries' dogs having them either.

If an MP wants to get a PP for their dog why not? Their voting has nothing to do with it, they're not doing anything wrong, just living within the existing rules.

 

[Minxy]

Hi Maz we have had a pet passport for couple of years need to get new 3 year rabies early next year. Would you be kind enough to send me the vet list. Moss

You can get the rabies done at any vet in the EU, it's the passport that some of the French vets seem to have an issue with issuing, not the jabs themselves.

They are needed.

It is just that there are no checks, because there is no infrastructure on the border, which is a deliberate decision and part of the Good Friday agreement and subsequent agreements.

They're actually not needed because there are no checks ... what's the point in paying for one when it's never going to be looked at? So long as travel is into and out of Northern Ireland there's nothing to be concerned about. We had this very discussion with a chap when we were in Scotland in August who was wanting to take his dog to Northern Ireland and was adamant that he must get an AHC, no matter what we said or showed him, nor our experience, would convince him otherwise ... he obviously had money to burn.

 

[alex n]

That’s rather what I was suggesting (that you would have no joy in France (however, others seem to be suggesting otherwise )).

Ian

i got one last year in France

 

[MichaelT]

I didn't vote for Brexit, so I'm quite happy to get my pet an EU passport, it's a pity I can't have a EU passport

Just identify as a dog

 

[GaryMo]

Just identify as a dog

Woof woof

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[DBK]

They are needed.

It is just that there are no checks, because there is no infrastructure on the border, which is a deliberate decision and part of the Good Friday agreement and subsequent agreements.

The AHC is required for entry into NI - all part of the arrangements created by effectively putting the border down the Irish Sea. Paragraph 3 on this link.

Taking your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad

Take your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad: getting a pet passport or export health certificate, microchip, vaccinations and tapeworm treatments.

www.gov.uk

 

[maz]

The AHC is required for entry into NI - all part of the arrangements created by effectively putting the border down the Irish Sea. Paragraph 3 on this link.

Taking your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad

Take your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad: getting a pet passport or export health certificate, microchip, vaccinations and tapeworm treatments.

www.gov.uk

This is actually quite a tricky issue in many respects. Yes, technically an AHC is required to enter Northern Ireland from GB but since September 2021 checks have been suspended. So if I was only intending on visiting Northern Ireland (and not continuing on into the Republic of Ireland), there is no way that I would be forking out for an AHC.

However, if you intend to enter NI and then travel into the RoI you are legally required to have an AHC to enter the RoI. As there are no checks on the border between the two, in practice you can easily get away without having an AHC. Obviously this is not 'fair play' but it is understandable that it happens.

If the Windsor Framework is ever implemented with regard to pet travel from GB to NI, it relies on a statement from the pet owner that they will not be continuing on into the RoI. This will be very difficult (if not impossible) to police - and it is probably concerns about the 'good faith' statement being not worth the paper it is written on that has caused implementation of the WF to be repeatedly delayed.

All of the above can be solved by using a Pet Passport, which can be obtained in either NI or RoI. But be aware that some (most? I don't know) vets issuing them will want to see an AHC before doing so.

So a bit of a pig's ear all round really. Who'd have thought it?!

 

[enark]

They are needed.

It is just that there are no checks, because there is no infrastructure on the border, which is a deliberate decision and part of the Good Friday agreement and subsequent agreements.

And UK NI checks are suspended too.. which makes the whole situation a bit farcical.