Baltic Wharf redevelopment latest news

[The general]

We’ve found it quite the opposite. We used to use the Long Ashton Park and Ride, £4.50 for both of us, 20 minutes tops to our stop.

Since the inception of Metrobus, £9 for two of us, 40 minutes to get to our stop.

5 hours in one of the main centre car parks, £6.30........we drive into the centre now.

Last time I went on business , for a delivery in a panel van , at THE COULSTON HALL for all day parking cost £12 in the multi story behind the fine venue . Where in the stair wells were the remnants of drug abuse and toilet facilities

 

[63720]

Not sure if it's still available but we have used the car park behind M Shed. Buy a ticket for 24 hours and no camping activity.

 

[Billylyne5]

Shame it’s going to close, our daughter just started Uni there and the car par next to her halls was extortionate £12 for 3hours.it would have been handy to have been able to stay in the Van in the city. Love Bristol.

 

[SpeedyDux]

And why might that be?

Off-topic, but still. I lived in Bristol for many years and had a house directly overlooking Baltic Wharf.

There was a talk given by a firearms trained Cop to a business club I used to attend. My recollection is that at the time (this was in the 90s) cops would not go into St Pauls except in pairs and it was too risky even for an armed officer to go there solo. An AK was found in a wheely bin in Avonmouth. Russian merchant seamen were selling AKs and other firearms to the Brizzle gangstas. St Pauls had Yardies from Jamaica who were heavily involved in drug dealing and gang-related extreme violence. And so on. Nowadays he would not have been allowed to give a talk like that to members of the public.

One surprising fact was that in the Avon & Somerset force area the epicentre for gun-related emergency calls was Yeovil. Mostly relating to shotguns.

 

[SpeedyDux]

Last time I went on business , for a delivery in a panel van , at THE COULSTON HALL for all day parking cost £12 in the multi story behind the fine venue . Where in the stair wells were the remnants of drug abuse and toilet facilities

That would be the Council-owned Trenchard St multi-storey where I used to park for work. All day parking used to cost £5.60 and it was free in the evenings. Safer in those days than the NCP helter-skelter in Rupert St where some scrote tried to steal my car and broke off the steering wheel in the attempt.

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[The general]

Ref St. Paul’s I thought the law enforcement were only allowed in if invited ? at certain times of the year . Is it right the council are trying to move on the fulltimers out of Bristol . If I remember correctly they are parked up on left as you come out of Bristol on the M32 ????

 

[Janine]

Crikey - you lot make it sound a terrible place! I frequently walked into the city or round the harbour with my dog in the evening and never felt unsafe.

I guess almost everywhere in the country now has a drug problem and the crime that surrounds it.

 

[Caggsie1]

I was talking to a colleague a few years ago, she had lived in Bristol and she said it’s one of the scariest places she had lived, never to return if she can help it. She didn’t divulge the reasoning behind it. I would have to say, only ever been into town and the side of the harbour of the site, haven’t felt threatened by anything. I guess, living in an area you get to know the no go areas.

 

[AG 2602]

St Paul’s and the area around it is in fact very popular these days with some top notch bars and restaurants (on the Gloucester Rd). if we are going into the city to eat we mostly go here! We find that the places down by the waterfront a little too commercial most of the restaurants seem to be national chains.
Plus if you go to Gloucester Rd you can see all the fantastic graffiti!

 

[EzeeRider]

The proposal for the replacement site comes up before Bristol's Development Committee on the 14th October.
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[SpeedyDux]

Crikey - you lot make it sound a terrible place! I frequently walked into the city or round the harbour with my dog in the evening and never felt unsafe.

I guess almost everywhere in the country now has a drug problem and the crime that surrounds it.

Harbourside is safe enough as long as you don't fall into the water.

St Paul’s and the area around it is in fact very popular these days with some top notch bars and restaurants (on the Gloucester Rd). if we are going into the city to eat we mostly go here! We find that the places down by the waterfront a little too commercial most of the restaurants seem to be national chains.
Plus if you go to Gloucester Rd you can see all the fantastic graffiti!

Gloucester Road is excellent although north and west of St Pauls / Montpellier and the better bits are actually in Bishopston which is very middle class. The spectacular graffiti is mostly in Stokes Croft where the squatters tend to live.

The stabby bit is lower Stapleton Road near the junction with the M32. Best keep your doors locked if you drive along that bit of the link road to or from the A4.

 

[Sapper520]

The proposal for the replacement site comes up before Bristol's Development Committee on the 14th October.
easyrider

This was talked about on another thread. If one of the proposed new road systems gets approved the site will be within a triangle of main roads. Not sure how they will keep the traffic noise subdued.

Still within walking distance (but not a short one) of the City centre, along the docks footpath. Ideal for events at Ashton Gate.

 

[TheMachMan]

I wonder where they will relocate to?

 

[Sapper520]

I wonder where they will relocate to?

Rumour as it, somewhere on or near the Old Police Horses / Dog Section at Bower Ashton. I’ll see if I can find the previous thread and link it here.

 

[Sapper520]

Contains maps as well........

Baltic Wharf

Has anyone visited Baltic Wharf recently. If so is it possible to access the site via the swing bridge and on to Cumberland Road, or is it still necessary to follow the diversion route, approaching the site from the other end of Cumberland Road. T.I.A.

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[Peppadog]

We live only eight miles away, and, by chance, drove to the Cottage Inn car park only yesterday for a walk around the harbour and to take a look at a little river cruiser our son is buying that’s moored in the marina. The car park there is free for four hours incidentally.
We’ve only stayed on the site once. To test run a new van for a couple of nights a few years back. But its location always makes it worth a visit whist still there. The S.S. Great Britain is a must see.
Nearly all of the harbour area has been developed over the last twenty years or longer. It badly needed it. I guess the city council think permanent homes are more important in that location than motorhome or caravan visitors?
Sorry to pee on your conspiracy theories, but this development has been part of the City’s harbour plan for many years. Not just a developer lead proposal.

 

[Marty Gilly and Pup]

Must still be in the early planning stages as still saying 40% affordable housing. That will dwindle to 5% by the time it’s built. Always does

 

[Martyn911]

Thinking of a few days there this month.
Is it worth a visit? We like a wander into town, some local pubs and restaurants (CV aware of course)

Very much so fabulous city lived here for 62 years. We live on the water front there on the other side from the site very sad if they build on it. But at the moment living in our motorhome in Long Ashton on a Certified Location well we wait for the V5 to arrive so cycle into Bristol ever day to check the post

 

[bobnick]

Interesting. Driven through many times over the years, never stopped to look. Now on the list to do just that.
Is the city center walkable????

 

[olley]

Next to Long Ashton Park and Ride would I have thought be a good spot to relocate the campsite..

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[Janine]

Interesting. Driven through many times over the years, never stopped to look. Now on the list to do just that.
Is the city center walkable????

From the site? Yes! 20 minutes flat walk along the harbour takes you straight into the heart of the city.

 

[Martyn911]

Interesting. Driven through many times over the years, never stopped to look. Now on the list to do just that.
Is the city center walkable????

Baltic Wharf to Cabot Circus 30 to 40 minute walk

 

[Peppadog]

Must still be in the early planning stages as still saying 40% affordable housing. That will dwindle to 5% by the time it’s built. Always does

I think the M&CC were first advised of future closure some six years ago.

Caravan Club's Baltic Wharf campsite closure now likely

Caravan Club's Baltic Wharf site looks increasingly likely to close in 2015 as the Club looks for a new site ...

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[Solwaybuggier]

Sorry to pee on your conspiracy theories, but this development has been part of the City’s harbour plan for many years. Not just a developer lead proposal.

It’s not a conspiracy theory - the article you quoted later in the thread makes it clear that the original proposal was for a school:
“The loss to the local economy has been calculated at over £1.2 million but despite this, the Council had earmarked the site for closure and redevelopment into a school.”

 

[Sapper520]

Next to Long Ashton Park and Ride would I have thought be a good spot to relocate the campsite..

I believe the Long Ashton P&R is on North Somerset land, so not within Bristol control. Bristol City FC wanted to build a new stadium there, but North Somerset wouldn’t grant permission as the stadium would straddle the county border.

In any case, the P&R costs £9 a couple. Expensive unless you wish to use more than the bus into the city. We take the car and park in Cabot Circus......£6.30 for 5 hours. No incentive to use the P&R anymore.

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[Sapper520]

Baltic Wharf to Cabot Circus 30 to 40 minute walk

And that’s how long it can take on the bus from the P&R at Long Ashton.

 

[Peppadog]

Property developers will always trump essentials such as schools and hospitals. More brown envelopes involved

It’s not a conspiracy theory - the article you quoted later in the thread makes it clear that the original proposal was for a school:
“The loss to the local economy has been calculated at over £1.2 million but despite this, the Council had earmarked the site for closure and redevelopment into a school.”

No idea why. Perhaps the demographics have changed in the intervening years.
I was referring to the ‘brown envelope’ suggestion above.

 

[olley]

I believe the Long Ashton P&R is on North Somerset land, so not within Bristol control. Bristol City FC wanted to build a new stadium there, but North Somerset wouldn’t grant permission as the stadium would straddle the county border.

In any case, the P&R costs £9 a couple. Expensive unless you wish to use more than the bus into the city. We take the car and park in Cabot Circus......£6.30 for 5 hours. No incentive to use the P&R anymore.

Just seemed a no brainer to me, next to a park and ride and its open till 22.45, so a day in Bristol then a nice meal and bus back to site.

 

[KnolePark]

I think the “greedy developer” is actually Bristol City Council itself. They set up their own house building company called Goram Homes and have been looking at sites the council already owned to be able to provide this company with some land to build on. So the site did not come onto the market and in my view they are removing a valuable tourist asset just because they needed to find some land for their new company as, I understand, they have failed to be able to buy any land for it in the open market elsewhere in the city. No wonder Goram Homes got the support of Bristol City Council when it went to planning. It’s their own application.

 

[Peppadog]

Wow. I didn’t know that. Nothing works as well in public ownership unless its national infrastructure.

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