Awful crash - note the age of the tyre that blew out (1 Viewer)

[Fragle]

As a newbe to this forum and not too savvy with protocols, could i ask the Question in relation to the tyres and vehicle , HOW did it ever get past the required MOT each year , and if so surely its the garage that issued such a certificate that should be also held responsible . ron

Hello Ron. Welcome.

It's just a matter of opinions really. I think most would be with you in asking how would it pass an MOT. Possibly age of vehicle means no requirement for seat belts. Personally I believe Driver responsibility.
The investigation says he walks free. My opinion is he's got off lightly.

Unfortunately they are not here because of his actions.

 

[Fragle]

IF, at the time of MOT, the tyre had sufficient tread depth with no obvious bulges etc. it will pass an MOT.
The responsibility clause for all MOT stations, ends at their doors.

Did they not introduce an age limit on the tyres? But you are right. As soon as you drive away it's not there problem.

 

[L' Hobo]

Did they not introduce an age limit on the tyres? But you are right. As soon as you drive away it's not there problem.

I believe I'm right in saying, the new 10yr rule only applies to commercial vehicles?

 

[Do Ron Ron]

Didn't have to worry about all these issues when I was boating on inland lakes ,if the engine stopped you threw out the anchor and went to bed ,sort it later , but reading these posts is a great learning curve ,"never to old to learn " tks

 

[tacr2man]

Being prepared might have helped ? How aware are most drivers of larger vehicles ?

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[tonyidle]

Being prepared might have helped ? How aware are most drivers of larger vehicles ?

It applies to any vehicle and to any suspension-related failure. Obvious stuff I'd have thought.

 

[joner8888]

Wonder if I should change the tyres on my classic motorbike, only put them on 24 years ago and they are still like new

Probably cross ply's

 

[L' Hobo]

It applies to any vehicle and to any suspension-related failure. Obvious stuff I'd have thought.

It may be obvious to you but, in my experience, when one is not expecting a front wheel blow-out, it takes great presence of mind to resist one's natural instinct and put one's foot on the brake, however lightly, especially on the crowded roads of the UK.

After some tuition and several practices plus one incident with a Coachload of passengers on the way to Stansted.
The best I have achieved is to take my foot off the accelerator but NOT apply the brake.

If possible, just let it slow down at its own pace. The tyre will usually stay in place and steerable in a nearly straight line until about 30mph by which time I was on the M11 hard shoulder.

I've never had any tuition or blow-out experience with a FWD vehicle, so on that, I cannot comment!

 

[tonyidle]

It may be obvious to you but, in my experience, when one is not expecting a front wheel blow-out, it takes great presence of mind to resist one's natural instinct and put one's foot on the brake, however lightly, especially on the crowded roads of the UK.

After some tuition and several practices plus one incident with a Coachload of passengers on the way to Stansted.
The best I have achieved is to take my foot off the accelerator but NOT apply the brake.

If possible, just let it slow down at its own pace. The tyre will usually stay in place and steerable in a nearly straight line until about 30mph by which time I was on the M11 hard shoulder.

I've never had any tuition or blow-out experience with a FWD vehicle, so on that, I cannot comment!

Apart from a couple of motorcycling deflations my first 4 wheel "experience" was losing a front wheel off an Austin J4 at 65mph. I have a sufficiently active imagination that I instantly visualised the brake drum digging into the tarmac if I braked so I didn't and the van eventually slowed enough to allow me to turn into a side road. The vehicle remained stable. I have never been tempted to brake before assessing the feel of a wounded vehicle.

 

[L' Hobo]

Apart from a couple of motorcycling deflations my first 4 wheel "experience" was losing a front wheel off an Austin J4 at 65mph. I have a sufficiently active imagination that I instantly visualised the brake drum digging into the tarmac if I braked so I didn't and the van eventually slowed enough to allow me to turn into a side road. The vehicle remained stable. I have never been tempted to brake before assessing the feel of a wounded vehicle.

If you lost a Front wheel unexpectedly off a J4, you were very lucky for a vehicle so boxy with the engine, between the seats over the front axle, not to dig in and roll at 65mph!

The wheel you lost must have been the one opposite side from where you were seated and the turn off, not sharp.
Thank goodness for stiff body shelled vans!

It's good to read some people, instantly, have the presence of mind not to apply their brakes!

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[tonyidle]

If you lost a Front wheel unexpectedly off a J4, you were very lucky for a vehicle so boxy with the engine, between the seats over the front axle, not to dig in and roll at 65mph!

The wheel you lost must have been the one opposite side from where you were seated and the turn off, not sharp.
Thank goodness for stiff body shelled vans!

It's good to read some people, instantly, have the presence of mind not to apply their brakes!

Agree. It was the nearside wheel and the van was amazingly stable. The turnoff was to the left and I was travelling pretty slowly by the time I got to it.

 

[cyberyacht]

A J4 doing 65mph. I don't believe it.

 

[Huffum]

Certainly not a stupid question.

One I was going to ask and I'm glad I've seen the advice.
Front tyres 7 years old, back tyres 12 years old and the spare even older.
Was advised by a garage in the UK that my tyres were fine before leaving.
5 new tyres fitted today in Spain.

 

[dawsey]

One I was going to ask and I'm glad I've seen the advice.
Front tyres 7 years old, back tyres 12 years old and the spare even older.
Was advised by a garage in the UK that my tyres were fine before leaving.
5 new tyres fitted today in Spain.

Good call. Happy holidays.