Are we going to have to pay more for ferry crossings?

The Ex-Gasman said:
Becoming a high skill economy will take many years which is why it may never happen. They (the idiot politicians) thought years ago that to become highly skilled everyone needed a university degree thay ended up with all the useless university courses that leave people almost unemployable.
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Knowledge, skill and application, in that order. There is a huge potential difference between the three!
 
Calais port & motorways to the port all jammed up this morning just managed to get passed for tunnel home .channel tunnel so quite though jumped on 1 hour early glad we was not going by ferry
 
Clipgate said:
We were clearly told that the desire was Singapore on Thames, low pay, no employment protection. Poor conditions etc.
The majority voted for it, so be it.
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We’re we? Really?
I don’t remember any of that being discussed. IIRC you have posted similar before. If not, ignore this comment.

Please can we get away from such blatantly untrue posts?
 
WESTY66 said:
If that’s the case Mel, they won’t need to reinstate cheap frequent traveller tickets if they’re filling the space at premium rates🤷‍♂️
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I know, that's the worry!

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James-Alex said:
I looked for this new haven crossing only yesterday. Really surprised how cheap it was. 20th August £73 each way on the 23:00 sailings. Huge saving compared to similar routes.
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Cheapest I can find is £88 outward for 1 adult - what are you inputting?
 
The ferry company was paying at least the minimum rate before they sacked the crews, why would it cost more if they take back the same crews or employ new crews at the same rates.

Ok, they have lost millions and if fines are issued probably millions more.

The reality is they can't afford to lose the UK routes so boycot them into submission.
Only drawback with that will be commercial traffic needing the ferries.
 
Minxy said:
Cheapest I can find is £88 outward for 1 adult - what are you inputting?
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Have you taken off the 20%?

My one next week is costing me £180 return if I had gone a few days eairler would have been £162.
Best I've had about 3 years ago £79 return.
 
DBK said:
We generally use Brittany Ferries where virtually all the crew are French who are presumably not working for £5 an hour. Of course they are not competing on the short crossings.
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As I have stated before Brittany Ferries Ireland use non French Foreign crews. Their ship The Connemara sails between Ireland/France/Spain under the Cypriot Flag. Only a matter of time before the rest of Brittany Ferries fall into line.
 
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The Ex-Gasman said:
With the new ide of working from home, where all you need is a pc and a phone, that is a portable job, how long before that job is exported to India? Africa? Mexico? etc. What will happen to is all then?
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The Ex-Gasman said:
With the new ide of working from home, where all you need is a pc and a phone, that is a portable job, how long before that job is exported to India? Africa? Mexico? etc. What will happen to is all then?
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Qite a bit of that going on for a long time in India
 
I can’t see that the old p&o staff were on minimum wage so it can’t say that any rises would be because of that.
 
Lenny HB said:
Have you taken off the 20%?

My one next week is costing me £180 return if I had gone a few days eairler would have been £162.
Best I've had about 3 years ago £79 return.
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Ah, silly me ... being under 60 I didn't deduct it (hubby's 64 though!).

£88 less 20% (£17 (approx) = £71 ... I win! :LOL:
 
My brothers company for technical building quality steel design years ago had tough competition from South America where designs were produced for building at a considerably lower. All the information being distributed online/Fax to the UK.
So off shore work is not a new phenomenon for high tech companies.
 
Innkeeper said:
If thing need to go up in price. To pay staff a living wage. Then so be it.
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Id rather they paid staff a fair wage, kept prices reasonable and stopped paying top brass ridiculous high wages and pocketing huge profits.

Everyone wins then except the fat cats.

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The Ex-Gasman said:
The staff from the third world are very happy to work for £4 an hour, it's probably 2 or 3 times what they can get at home, but that is a race to the bottom. I saw what happened in the building trade when the eastern Europeans came here, I was lucky that the gas engineers could not pass our exams so we had some protection, but that didn't stop 20 installers being "supervised" by a qualified engineer. Other trades were sometimes thrown off a site with no notice, because the new arrivals would work for less money. This race to low pay is not good for anyone and if I have to pay more for a ferry then I will.
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Its ok if you can . The problem with increasing the prices to cover the low paid workers instead of simply reducing the wages of the high paid workers is. The low paid worker has very little chance of affording the ferry prices themselves should they wish to partake in what was once a low paid workers holiday.
 
Superfast Ferries recently introduced a fuel surcharge which increased prices for both passengers and Vehicles for each crossing. Expect other to follow suit.
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Yes you are going to pay more. I'd rather poke hot needles in my eyeballs that go on a ferry over the channel. It's under for me every time. It's inevitable that prices will go up. The shareholders want to see a profit, damn the employees and the customers. It's not about providing a service its about turning a profit that you don't reinvest. As the rich get richer and the poor get poorer something has to give.
 
I checked the prices for our Harwich to the Hook of Holland in September and they don’t appear to have changed . Once our son comes back from his trip we will book that before they do change.
We did look at Hull Rotterdam being so close to Hull but the prices before this fiasco and dismissed that idea because of the high price. In hindsight that as a good move.
 
TM59 said:
As I have stated before Brittany Ferries Ireland use non French Foreign crews. Their ship The Connemara sails between Ireland/France/Spain under the Cypriot Flag. Only a matter of time before the rest of Brittany Ferries fall into line.
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Never happen as long as they continue to be supported by regional government and Brittany farmers subsidies, both open and hidden
 
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pappajohn said:
The ferry company was paying at least the minimum rate before they sacked the crews, why would it cost more if they take back the same crews or employ new crews at the same rates.

Ok, they have lost millions and if fines

The reality is they can't afford to lose the UK routes so boycot them into submission.
Only drawback with that will be commercial traffic needing the ferries.
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pappajohn said:
The ferry company was paying at least the minimum rate before they sacked the crews, why would it cost more if they take back the same crews or employ new crews at the same rates.

Ok, they have lost millions and if fines are issued probably millions more.

The reality is they can't afford to lose the UK routes so boycot them into submission.
Only drawback with that will be commercial traffic needing the ferries.
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The problem was that they were paying a lot more than minimum wage. Why do you say they can’t afford to lose the UK routes? The asset value of P&O ferries will probably match their projected profit after tax for the. next 2/3 years. Commercial traffic may need ferries, but the major users don’t pay anything like published rates, and apart from Covid most sensible people are aware that commercial traffic has also reduced somewhat since Brexit. I would have thought an extra ship for each of the remaining operators would go a long way in meeting the capacity loss in P&O went.
 
emjaiuk said:
The problem was that they were paying a lot more than minimum wage. Why do you say they can’t afford to lose the UK routes? The asset value of P&O ferries will probably match their projected profit after tax for the. next 2/3 years. Commercial traffic may need ferries, but the major users don’t pay anything like published rates, and apart from Covid most sensible people are aware that commercial traffic has also reduced somewhat since Brexit. I would have thought an extra ship for each of the remaining operators would go a long way in meeting the capacity loss in P&O went.
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Thay Sade thay would lose 100 million this year but sponsor a golf tournament for 150 million don't get it pention short fall of 125 million
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I have to say ive used the tunnel the last 3 years both directions to Europe as it eas easier but this year returning to uk the price quoted was horrendous.

Even booking 6 weeks ahead i was quoted between £148 -£178 for a 7 metre van ... depending on times. The cheapest being at 6am which requires an overnight stop at calais .
To cross at 6pm it was £178

Add to that 3 dogs at £22 each thats a horrendous price.

So i crossed with dfds instead 6pm crossing £94 ...and with 3 dogs £142 with a free meal on board.

I turned up early and got a 1.15 pm crossing straight away at no extra cost.

If the tunnel keeps going up in price ill be taking the ferry.
 
emjaiuk said:
Never happen as long as they continue to be supported by regional government and Brittany farmers subsidies, both open and hidden
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Can you then explain why it has already happened to one of its ships.
 

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