All season/winter tyres

[Apacheman]

problem with them on driving wheels if fwd is most people would lose the back at the first ice or snow

because they front wil be doing just that ,sliding ,or 'understeer' if the best/new ones are on the front then it will grip & when you lose the back it will just do a 180 or 360 with most drivers

Snow and ice are two different things. Winter tyres will help get some grip in snow. It’s particularly the drive wheels you want the grip on to get you going (not saying they won’t help on the back as well but if you can’t get moving you don’t need to worry about the rear end sliding out). It’s common in snow to see a stationary vehicle with a wheel spinning and no grip? I say a wheel as the diff generally causes one to spin whilst the other stays still unless you have diff lock.
Even winter tyres won’t help you on black or compacted ice unless of course you have studs or chains to dig into it. Once you start sliding on ice you’re in the lap of the gods.

 

[Mleabon]

I suppose it depends how and where you store them when not in use. (as well as when they're on the van) UV is a big factor....so washed, dried and placed in the back of a pitch black garage for 4 months won't really be aging them.

Same here but I also reduce the pressure when stored so they maintain their shape. 3 bar from 5.2bar when fitted.

 

[Mleabon]

Snow and ice are two different things. Winter tyres will help get some grip in snow. It’s particularly the drive wheels you want the grip on to get you going (not saying they won’t help on the back as well but if you can’t get moving you don’t need to worry about the rear end sliding out). It’s common in snow to see a stationary vehicle with a wheel spinning and no grip? I say a wheel as the diff generally causes one to spin whilst the other stays still unless you have diff lock.
Even winter tyres won’t help you on black or compacted ice unless of course you have studs or chains to dig into it. Once you start sliding on ice you’re in the lap of the gods.

Winter tyres do help on ice but I agree that studded are better for ice.

 

[Mleabon]

Just had a question pop into my head: given recommendation is to change MH tyres every five years, how does that play out if you’re swapping summer/winter tyres for a third of the year?

My tyres now are standard summer tyres, plenty of tread, but all now over 6 years old. I am also planning to go into the Alps skiing in Feb for the first time. Plan was 3PMSF All-Season (plus snow chains), but a friend convinced my better half we should have Winter Tyres. So, now I’m looking at 4 Winter tyres; 4 new summer tyres (or all-season); snow chains plus the cost to swap them over twice a year ! And as per my question, I’ve suddenly just though I might need replace every 5 years!

Winter tyres are the best choice for the alps in winter.

 

[Mleabon]

problem with them on driving wheels if fwd is most people would lose the back at the first ice or snow

because they front wil be doing just that ,sliding ,or 'understeer' if the best/new ones are on the front then it will grip & when you lose the back it will just do a 180 or 360 with most drivers

Yes I agree. New tyres should go on the back for front wheel drive and on the front for rear wheel drive....unless you are buying 4 of course.

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[L' Hobo]

problem with them on driving wheels if fwd is most people would lose the back at the first ice or snow

because they front wil be doing just that ,sliding ,or 'understeer' if the best/new ones are on the front then it will grip & when you lose the back it will just do a 180 or 360 with most drivers

I'm glad I'm not 'most drivers'!

 

[Happy Jack]

Yes. I'd seek advice from some other firms as well as LK...they may be trying to sell what they can make the most profit on ? (But I'd also check with the manufacturer that the size you fancy can actually be fitted)

Have e-mailed both LK and Wheelbase alloys for more info.

 

[Apacheman]

I am really at a loss as to why anyone would think to buy two winter tyres then put them on the rear of a front wheel drive vehicle leaving the front steering and drive wheels with potential lesser grip at a time when you’d need more???

 

[Marky146]

I had an Impreza STI. I once did a drive to Ankara as I was working there in October- returning February. 5,000miles round trip. Put the winters on. 20’ all the way there at high motorways speeds ( it was way more economical too??)

Anyway, lots of snow and ice and the car was brilliant. After I got back I discovered I’d used less than 0.5mm of tread. Virtually no wear.

They still had bags of tread at 7 years old when the slight cracking in the sidewall signalled their end.

Summer tyres wear much faster. I now only put my PS3 on for May-August on my ST. The rest is spent on all seasons and again they are lasting better despite 8 months a year of use. I know it’s a car anecdote but tyres are tyres. Now to find some good all seasons in 225/50/18” 103Y for my TrevorTransit.

 

[Ravelin]

Winter tyres are the best choice for the alps in winter.

Undoubtedly, but we've been to Austria in the winter 3 times since we got the motorhome, on the original M+S only Michelins with no issues. Now changed to 3Peak all-season van tyres to comply with the new rules, and the originals were 6 years old so approaching needing replaced anyway.

At the end of the day you are travelling in your accommodation so adapting plans to match road and weather conditions is fairly easy. It snows, roads are dodgy... stop somewhere, fire up the heating and wait it out. Forecast looking bad the day you plan to leave, then go early.

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[pandas]

Undoubtedly, but we've been to Austria in the winter 3 times since we got the motorhome, on the original M+S only Michelins with no issues. Now changed to 3Peak all-season van tyres to comply with the new rules, and the originals were 6 years old so approaching needing replaced anyway.

At the end of the day you are travelling in your accommodation so adapting plans to match road and weather conditions is fairly easy. It snows, roads are dodgy... stop somewhere, fire up the heating and wait it out. Forecast looking bad the day you plan to leave, then go early.

And not forgetting the legal requirement for 3 peak (not just M+S) within a set season period - not sure but November through to March?

 

[Ravelin]

I should have also mentioned that we also have a set of snow chains too, but are unlikely to drive any distance if the weather was expected to be that poor that we might need them. Always there in an emergency though.

 

[Kevin R]

I think you'd have to expand on that somewhat.....I'm in mid France. My dept do not make them mandatory, the departments that do, clearly state that you can also use normal tyres but MUST also carry snow chains or tyre socks.

Sorry for not mentioning. I was referring to Germany.

 

[Dereckerick]

Well that took a turn for the better…. 6x Michelin cross climate £350 fitted … 7mm tread on all 6