ALCOHOL ... how much do you imbibe?

hilldweller said:
It's a very sad condition as seen on the news often where parents go to such lengths to keep a non functioning child alive.
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With all due respect, and god forbid, but do 'you' know how 'very sad' that is.
Every second is precious and beyond debate.
 
Moderation is the answer to any thread like this, plus a little common sense.

Is it really to be believed that a 12st man has a weekly recommended 14 units per week and a man of 24st the same, also take into account the different metabolism rates.

Our usual evening is something like, I run Chris a bath and have a bowl of olives and a gin & Tonic for when she gets home at around 8pm, she doesn't want to chat with anyone after seeing up to 30 patients in her day so 40mins in the bath relaxing and catching up on her favourite tv Programs.
I'm in the kitchen preparing dinner, music on, (Steely Dan or similar) and cork pulled from bottle, glass of wine whilst cooking.
Chris comes down we discuss our day with another glass of wine and dinner is served, by 10pm the bottle is empty, so not exactly binge drinking in the daytime whilst watching "Jeremy Kyle" or "Homes under the hammer" and yet our doctor would say we are drinking far too much alcohol.

I will have a vodka our Pastis before dinner but don't drink any other shorts don't really drink beer, but I do love my Red Wine.
Chris enjoys a Gin and Tonic and a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.
Do we drink too much? well according to the NHS guidelines YES. Our thoughts are we like our red meat, we like our pasta, we really like our cheese along with our wines how much longer would we live if we stopped drinking and changed our diet, who cares I would rather stay as we are enjoying ourselves than live another few years and be miserable gits watching everyone else enjoying themselves.
The other point is those extra years you MIGHT live aren't when you are young and virile they will be when your 90's, sitting in a wheelchair drooling and wetting yourself.
 
steve 6644 said:
With all due respect, and god forbid, but do 'you' know how 'very sad' that is.
Every second is precious and beyond debate.
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Also with all due respect.

I find it so sad for a child, wired up like a telephone exchange, more pipes than our central heating, zero communication. Who knows what is going on inside their head, I suspect they are yelling "this is no life, let me die".
 
Mikeco said:
I drink very little just the odd beer every couple of weeks or so, however as a Fun Marshall at Lincoln I will have to force myself to accept any nice cans of Guinness or good quality beer that are offered when I park you into a prime position on the field. :D
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Is that right?
Do your 'Customers' give you drinks and stuff just to get a prime spot?
Funsters at Wyre Piddle- The gloves are off if you want that Riverside spot.;)

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I save up all my units till I've got enough to demolish a nice bottle or two of Irish Whiskey with friends..

I love the often drunk Dean Martin's quote.
“I feel sorry for people who don’t drink. When they get up in the morning that’s as good as they’re going to feel all day.” '\
 
Chris said:
That’s a brave post.

I like brave posts so good on you.

Will you look after my cat now when I go away?
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Beat me to it. ??
 
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hilldweller said:
So what, it's their business. We have to die sometime, even you, if folk decide enjoy drink in a quantity that damages them that's for them to decide.
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Nirvanauk said:
Why does it concern you what other people drink? Just asking like.
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It concerns me, and the reason I started this thread, because people don't always realise that they are doing it ... it is so easy to sit all day in a nice spot, having a beer, then another, then another ... have dinner, more beer, a toddy before bed etc ... I've seen it myself - some wine, then spirits (not a single either) then more beer, more spirits, every day. These same people may then have health issues which I don't think, as a general rule, consuming alcohol can help with, especially if they are on meds and/or have more than the recommended amount.

There's also the safety aspect ... I wonder how many people drink and then drive the following morning ... it takes quite a long time for alcohol to get out of your system (I can't remember the figures at the mo) so many could easily be over the limit when they get behind the wheel.

In reality I didn't expect people to actually state what they imbibe on this thread, if they choose to 'share' that's up to them but hopefully those that do will give others food for thought. What I hope this thread does is draw attention to how much alcohol some people consume and hopefully make those who may be having too much have a good think about it for their own good, not to mention their family etc.

My FIL's wife had a son who died in his 30s due to a throat haemorrhage whilst he was in bed, he basically drowned in his own blood as his lungs filled up, he had obviously woken up and moved around as the bedroom was covered in blood and ... well I don't need to describe what happened. He had been a heavy drinker however he had reduced this due to being a single parent, but still had the odd 'heavy' night out, unfortunately due to his passing away it caused a lot of upheaval for his two young kiddies as they then had to go live with their Mum, which wasn't ideal and meant they had to change schools, friends etc.

I would hate to lose any funster friends, or any one else for that matter, due to their over-imbibing 'for the sake of it'.

As for me ... I don't drink because I really do not like the taste of alcohol (can't stand dried fruit either! :D) although I tried to get 'merry' one Christmas just to see what it was like bit it was a waste of alcohol as it had no obvious effect on me ... it did on hubby though as he wished he hadn't given me the whisky! :LOL:
 
Beer here is 1.50€ a pint so I take fill advantage. Probably 4 or 5 pints a day. But hate being drunk.

To offset, I always have dry January. And first 7 days of every month is dry. :)
 
Minxy Girl said:
It concerns me, and the reason I started this thread, because people don't always realise that they are doing it ... it is so easy to sit all day in a nice spot, having a beer, then another, then another ... have dinner, more beer, a toddy before bed etc ... I've seen it myself - some wine, then spirits (not a single either) then more beer, more spirits, every day. These same people may then have health issues which I don't think, as a general rule, consuming alcohol can help with, especially if they are on meds and/or have more than the recommended amount.

There's also the safety aspect ... I wonder how many people drink and then drive the following morning ... it takes quite a long time for alcohol to get out of your system (I can't remember the figures at the mo) so many could easily be over the limit when they get behind the wheel.

In reality I didn't expect people to actually state what they imbibe on this thread, if they choose to 'share' that's up to them but hopefully those that do will give others food for thought. What I hope this thread does is draw attention to how much alcohol some people consume and hopefully make those who may be having too much have a good think about it for their own good, not to mention their family etc.

My FIL's wife had a son who died in his 30s due to a throat haemorrhage whilst he was in bed, he basically drowned in his own blood as his lungs filled up, he had obviously woken up and moved around as the bedroom was covered in blood and ... well I don't need to describe what happened. He had been a heavy drinker however he had reduced this due to being a single parent, but still had the odd 'heavy' night out, unfortunately due to his passing away it caused a lot of upheaval for his two young kiddies as they then had to go live with their Mum, which wasn't ideal and meant they had to change schools, friends etc.

I would hate to lose any funster friends, or any one else for that matter, due to their over-imbibing 'for the sake of it'.

As for me ... I don't drink because I really do not like the taste of alcohol (can't stand dried fruit either! :D) although I tried to get 'merry' one Christmas just to see what it was like bit it was a waste of alcohol as it had no obvious effect on me ... it did on hubby though as he wished he hadn't given me the whisky! :LOL:
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I was going to comment on this post but I much prefer living in Scotland and dont want to move to the Midlands. ??
 
mitzimad said:
how much do i drink?
A lot less if i dont go to any fun meets
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On the face of it that's quite funny but in reality is it? ?
 
Yorick said:
Beer here is 1.50€ a pint so I take fill advantage. Probably 4 or 5 pints a day. But hate being drunk.

To offset, I always have dry January. And first 7 days of every month is dry. :)
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First seven days of each month dry.

It might be where you live, but I can assure you if we get seven dry days in Manchester it must be summer !!! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Or a miracle.

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hilldweller said:
Very noble, I hope you don't find my alternative view offensive.
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Not at all, I can appreciate others have a different view and they are more than welcome to do as they please.

Sometimes, though, mentioning stuff can make people reassess what they do and help some to make a change if they deem one is needed.
 
hilldweller said:
The "god let me die" quote is what my 90 year old aunt said for months and months lieing in her cot waited on by, I think, Philipinos who were good people with only a smattering of English. I'd rather jump in the Thames than end up in a place like that, I aged more than she did just by visiting her.

My daughter, late 40s, has it but so far the worst thing to happen is a hand sometimes freezes for a while. Worrying though.

Good luck with yours, clearly nothing wrong with your hands.
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That's the trouble with MS, nobody is the same & nobody can tell you what is going to happen.

No my hands do get 'moments' the 'shocks' are painful & can stop me in my tracks, but in between I can still knock deserving people out cold without punching them and make jewellery.

I have to say the most painful shock is one i get in my left leg, I just hoe it never happens in public because it makes me yell out.
 
My dog likes to go to the pub so. I feel obliged to join him.
As an ex health care professional I know and have seen the perils of alcohol but I enjoy beer. Yes I do drink more than the recommended units. It's a pleasure to find a new and well kept real ale.
 
Minxy Girl said:
Not at all, I can appreciate others have a different view and they are more than welcome to do as they please.

Sometimes, though, mentioning stuff can make people reassess what they do and help some to make a change if they deem one is needed.
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Give someone the facts about anything and then if they have the capacity let them make their own decisions.
Its heartbreaking to see young men and women though, in their 30s and 40s, on the hepatology ward near death due to alcohol, their faces the colour of bananas, due to a massive increase in bilirubin levels.

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hilldweller said:
The "god let me die" quote is what my 90 year old aunt said for months and months lieing in her cot waited on by, I think, Philipinos who were good people with only a smattering of English. I'd rather jump in the Thames than end up in a place like that, I aged more than she did just by visiting her.

My daughter, late 40s, has it but so far the worst thing to happen is a hand sometimes freezes for a while. Worrying though.

Good luck with yours, clearly nothing wrong with your hands.
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My wife works as a carer at a local dementia home, she loves her work (which I can't understand) but the tales she tells me re inforce all my beliefs about the meaning of life.

Like you I would rather jump in the Thames than not be able to wipe my own bum.(or remember where it even is for that matter.)
 
Moderation to some is too much. One drink leads to too many and one is never enough.
If it starts to effect others that’s the time to think of stopping.
I’m the son of an AA member (now deceased, god I miss him) who impacts upon my wife and needs to rethink his approach to using alcohol as a pain killer.
However, I love a glass of scotch like anyone and need self control if anything!

We’ve just drawn the cricket!
 
CazPaul said:
..........Its heartbreaking to see young men and women though, in their 30s and 40s, on the hepatology ward near death due to alcohol, their faces the colour of bananas, due to a massive increase in bilirubin levels.
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That and their impossibly distended stomachs!
I was in hospital for a kidney transplant a few years ago and they had folks with liver failure in for assessment of suitability for transplant in the same ward and as you say it is heartbreaking to see a young person on their own or with a young partner/family, in that condition, praying that they pass and get the chance to live to see their kids grow up or their next Christmas or anniversary. Others would come in, discuss their assessment and say openly that they lied about whether they’d stopped drinking or not, as if it wouldn’t be caught on blood/urine screening and said that they’ll drink again as soon as they can if they get the transplant!
One guy had just been told that during screening tests that they’d discovered cancer and that he had probably 2 or 3 months to live, as soon as he was told he just said “I won’t live that long and if I do I won’t be sober enough to care, I’m leaving right now and going to the pub and I won’t ever be sober again”. Sad but true.
 
steve 6644 said:
With all due respect, and god forbid, but do 'you' know how 'very sad' that is.
Every second is precious and beyond debate.
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Yes it's very sad to lose a child. I lost mine at 19 hours and didn't even get to see her but I know that her life wouldn't have been worth living. That was over 40 years ago but it was a blessing in disguise. I still think of her most days and visit her grave on "special birthdays". Next one will be in a few years time.

Denise
 
hilldweller said:
The "god let me die" quote is what my 90 year old aunt said for months and months lieing in her cot waited on by, I think, Philipinos who were good people with only a smattering of English. I'd rather jump in the Thames than end up in a place like that, I aged more than she did just by visiting her
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Pretty much same as my wife at 58 , never drank more than an odd baileys in her life, when she was in Dougy Mac, when she heard someone else had died, " why couldn't it have been me"

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denisejoe said:
Yes it's very sad to lose a child. I lost mine at 19 hours and didn't even get to see her but I know that her life wouldn't have been worth living. That was over 40 years ago but it was a blessing in disguise. I still think of her most days and visit her grave on "special birthdays". Next one will be in a few years time.

Denise
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? I don’t think you get over it but you do learn to live with it. My brother died at age 14 from cancer and my mother never really recovered from that.
 
Grianan said:
? I don’t think you get over it but you do learn to live with it. My brother died at age 14 from cancer and my mother never really recovered from that.
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Very true. I'll never forget but it does get easier over time.
 
When at home I rarely if ever drink (except Christmas), If away in the van with just me and the missus I may have the occasional can of Cider on a hot day but not very often.

On the other hand we regularly go away with family and friends who also have motorhomes and that is when I may drink a little more, I tend to stick to one or two cans of Cider but then wash it down with a little Spiced Rum though we rarely manage much more than a third of a bottle each on a normal night and I always add Coke to it.

I do however go alcohol free the night before we move anywhere just to be on the safe side when driving (not sure if its necessary but better safe than sorry)
 
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robnchris said:
Moderation is the answer to any thread like this, plus a little common sense.

Is it really to be believed that a 12st man has a weekly recommended 14 units per week and a man of 24st the same, also take into account the different metabolism rates.

Our usual evening is something like, I run Chris a bath and have a bowl of olives and a gin & Tonic for when she gets home at around 8pm, she doesn't want to chat with anyone after seeing up to 30 patients in her day so 40mins in the bath relaxing and catching up on her favourite tv Programs.
I'm in the kitchen preparing dinner, music on, (Steely Dan or similar) and cork pulled from bottle, glass of wine whilst cooking.
Chris comes down we discuss our day with another glass of wine and dinner is served, by 10pm the bottle is empty, so not exactly binge drinking in the daytime whilst watching "Jeremy Kyle" or "Homes under the hammer" and yet our doctor would say we are drinking far too much alcohol.

I will have a vodka our Pastis before dinner but don't drink any other shorts don't really drink beer, but I do love my Red Wine.
Chris enjoys a Gin and Tonic and a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc.
Do we drink too much? well according to the NHS guidelines YES. Our thoughts are we like our red meat, we like our pasta, we really like our cheese along with our wines how much longer would we live if we stopped drinking and changed our diet, who cares I would rather stay as we are enjoying ourselves than live another few years and be miserable gits watching everyone else enjoying themselves.
The other point is those extra years you MIGHT live aren't when you are young and virile they will be when your 90's, sitting in a wheelchair drooling and wetting yourself.
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Good for you. We do the same.
 

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