Spanish Gas Bottle

[Michael.]

Hi Funsters

I'm on the scrounge

Has anyone got a old spanish cylinder that they dont intend to use anymore, I'm going to Spain at the end of the year for 3 months and would like to be fully equiped before i go

Cheers

 

[jumar]

Stop being a scrounger.....currently if you arrive in Spain go to a Cepsa service station together with your passport and a few euros...
They (Cepsa) will supply you with a Cylinder and a Gas contract for that cylinder just for the price of the exchange cylinder cost...
Make sure you arrive with your regulator and suitable hose.... of course this can be bought in Spain....don't go to Repsol...I doubt you will get the same service...

 

[Littlewheels]

I have a full Spanish Bottle and a half full one along with Tails.
l will check exactly if you are interested but they are not free.
PM me if interested.

 

[jumar]

I have a full Spanish Bottle and a half full one along with Tails.
l will check exactly if you are interested but they are not free.
PM me if interested.

Milk and Beer comes in bottles...gas of all types comes in Cylinders...

 

[Littlewheels]

gas of all types comes in Cylinders...

I stand corrected.

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[jumar]

I stand corrected.

Accepted...

 

[Kups]

Stop being a scrounger.....currently if you arrive in Spain go to a Cepsa service station together with your passport and a few euros...
They (Cepsa) will supply you with a Cylinder and a Gas contract for that cylinder just for the price of the exchange cylinder cost...
Make sure you arrive with your regulator and suitable hose.... of course this can be bought in Spain....don't go to Repsol...I doubt you will get the same service...

Make sure you arrive with your regulator and suitable hose..

Didn't know this was possible, thanks for the information.
If I turn up with a Gaslow external filler hose and regulator, will that be acceptable?

Gaslow Braided Local Gas Cylinder Connection Hose

The Gaslow Braided Local Cylinder Connection Hose simply screws into the Gaslow filler point and now you can connect any gas cylinder adapter that has a 21.8LH fitting to the Hose. Length 1.5 metres. When using this hose with an external bottle, you are drawing the vapourised contents through...

www.gaslowdirect.com

 

[jumar]

Didn't know this was possible, thanks for the information.
If I turn up with a Gaslow external filler hose and regulator, will that be acceptable?

Gaslow Braided Local Gas Cylinder Connection Hose

The Gaslow Braided Local Cylinder Connection Hose simply screws into the Gaslow filler point and now you can connect any gas cylinder adapter that has a 21.8LH fitting to the Hose. Length 1.5 metres. When using this hose with an external bottle, you are drawing the vapourised contents through...

www.gaslowdirect.com

You do not need to produce you regulator, just your passport and euros....
My reference regarding regulator is to make sure you van is equipped ready to accept the new cylinder....bought in the UK or in España..

 

[Spriddler]

If I turn up with a Gaslow external filler hose and regulator, will that be acceptable?

Gaslow Braided Local Gas Cylinder Connection Hose

The Gaslow Braided Local Cylinder Connection Hose simply screws into the Gaslow filler point and now you can connect any gas cylinder adapter that has a 21.8LH fitting to the Hose. Length 1.5 metres. When using this hose with an external bottle, you are drawing the vapourised contents through...

www.gaslowdirect.com

Are you asking if the Cepsa cylinders are refillable (by yourself at LPG garages)?

 

[Kups]

Are you asking if the CEPSA cylinders are refillable (by yourself at LPG garages)?

No, this type of Gaslow hose screws into the external filler point and with the Spanish regulator on the other end, fixes to the full cylinder. The cylinder stands on the floor outside the mh. When the internal cylinder to empty, gas is drawn from the external cylinder. Neat solution to expensive electricity metered pitch cost.

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[Carpmart]

No, this type of Gaslow hose screws into the external filler point and with the Spanish regulator on the other end, fixes to the full cylinder. The cylinder stands on the floor outside the mh. When the internal cylinder to empty, gas is drawn from the external cylinder. Neat solution to expensive electricity metered pitch cost.

Certainly what I do.

Repsol bottles from garages and other regulated outlets in Spain are dynamic priced. You therefore pay a Spanish Govt controlled price. It was around €15 for 11kg of Propano this winter in Spain. You may find sites charge a little more.

This represents for the Motorhomer a VERY cost effective way of consuming energy that you’re not generating from solar. Or indeed red diesel or heating oil if you’re diesel heater users.

 

[Orion]

No, this type of Gaslow hose screws into the external filler point and with the Spanish regulator on the other end, fixes to the full cylinder. The cylinder stands on the floor outside the mh.

Is that correct? Wouldn’t it be a simple connector to the Spanish cylinder rather than a regulator, otherwise you’ll be running an already regulated supply through the van’s onboard regulator?

 

[Littlewheels]

 

[Kups]

Is that correct? Wouldn’t it be a simple connector to the Spanish cylinder rather than a regulator, otherwise you’ll be running an already regulated supply through the van’s onboard regulator?

Gaslow simply provide a tail for attachment to the cylinder by whatever means. I guess a double regulator doesn't do any harm. I'm happy with a regulator on the cylinder.

 

[Barriesimpson]

Hi Funsters

I'm on the scrounge

Has anyone got a old spanish cylinder that they dont intend to use anymore, I'm going to Spain at the end of the year for 3 months and would like to be fully equiped before i go

Cheers

Disa petrol station will sell you a full 11 (or is it 13) kg bottle for 19 Euros.

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[Orion]

Gaslow simply provide a tail for attachment to the cylinder by whatever means. I guess a double regulator doesn't do any harm. I'm happy with a regulator on the cylinder.

It might work (unlikely) but you may find that your appliances will not be as efficient as they could be because the van regulator is designed for a high pressure input not the 30-39mb output from a cylinder top one. AFAIK you can get a simple ‘Jumbo’ connector for the Spanish type cylinders instead of a regulator, and it won’t cost as much.

Maybe jumar could clarify?

 

[Kups]

It might work (unlikely) but you may find that your appliances will not be as efficient as they could be because the van regulator is designed for a high pressure input not the 30-39mb output from a cylinder top one. AFAIK you can get a simple ‘Jumbo’ connector for the Spanish type cylinders instead of a regulator, and it won’t cost as much.

Maybe jumar could clarify?

Just checked the Gaslow spec for their jumbo connector. This is their spec.

"The Gaslow Jumbo Clip-on Adapter 01-1671 is used to connect to Norwegian, Spanish, Portuguese and some southern Ireland gas cylinders, Connected to a bulkhead mounted 30mbar regulator via high pressure pigtails or used with the local cylinder connection hose 01-4500-SS
The Gaslow Spanish Clip-on Adaptor 01-1671 can also be used to connect to the Gaslow Local Cylinder connection hose. The adapter then converts the 21.8LH fitting on the 01-4500-SS hose to fit a gas cylinder connection in the corresponding countries.

Please note this adapter 01-1671 is not a regulator."

So this answers the point, it's a connector not a regulator.

 

[Boldly]

Does it matter if propano or butano?
Only asking as have two empty propano cylinders at my house in la marina that your welcome to if you get that far.
Carpmart I thought only the butano was price controlled.

 

[jumar]

It might work (unlikely) but you may find that your appliances will not be as efficient as they could be because the van regulator is designed for a high pressure input not the 30-39mb output from a cylinder top one. AFAIK you can get a simple ‘Jumbo’ connector for the Spanish type cylinders instead of a regulator, and it won’t cost as much.

Maybe jumar could clarify?

jumar speaks.... Basically I'm saying that Cepsa will sell you a Butane cylinder with official contract at the cost of the gas inside it.
Another matter of how you use it depends on the individual.
What's available in Spain is a regulator, controlling the flow from stored pressure to a working pressure, this is EU standard 30mbar.

Also available is an open flow connector which does not control the working pressure, this requires pressure control as it enters a MH system... on-board regulator...also set at 30mbar..

Although I have a Gaslow system, I've never tried or needed to introduce a secondary gas supply...

I'm sure someone will post some photos of the above which without doubt will help recognise what's needed....

I see whilst writing this that a fuller explanation has been posted....Fun Rules OK ..

 

[Orion]

Please note this adapter 01-1671 is not a regulator."

So this answers the point, it's a connector not a regulator.

Yes, that’s the one you’ll need before the onboard two stage regulator.

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[gus-lopez]

Does it matter if propano or butano?

Both work

@Carpmart I thought only the butano was price controlled.

I believe nothing are in the smaller cylinders.

 

[royandsharont]

I bought a jumbo adapter from Hamilton Gas for my intended next trip to Spain and a conversion adapter to enable me to use my hand wheel propane pig tail to connect direct to the adapter, which I think is a butane size connection.

 

[jumar]

You may see this type in Spanish shops...as it says it free flow...

 

[Itsme]

Saw an English chap in Spain earlier this year who was using his BBQ external spigot to back flow his appliances from a large CESPA Bottle - it puzzled me how it worked - thanks for clarifying

 

[Orion]

Saw an English chap in Spain earlier this year who was using his BBQ external spigot to back flow his appliances from a large CESPA Bottle - it puzzled me how it worked - thanks for clarifying

It’s not the same as the hose and adapter that Kups has mentioned which connects to the filling point for the refillable cylinders. Doing it via the BBQ point won’t go through the onboard two stage regulator, so he must have been relying on a single stage cylinder top regulator - not a good idea.

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[Sheddy]

Does it matter if propano or butano?

Definitely go with Propano, Butano cylinders are prone to freezing overnight in the winter and you won't be able to boil your kettle in the morning for a cuppa

 

[Michael.]

Stop being a scrounger.....currently if you arrive in Spain go to a Cepsa service station together with your passport and a few euros...
They (Cepsa) will supply you with a Cylinder and a Gas contract for that cylinder just for the price of the exchange cylinder cost...
Make sure you arrive with your regulator and suitable hose.... of course this can be bought in Spain....don't go to Repsol...I doubt you will get the same service...

 

[Michael.]

Thanks for the info, I was led to believe that you couldn't get the first cylinder (with contract) without a spanish address, If i can get one at any Cepsa garage without that, that would be great

 

[jumar]

Thanks for the info, I was led to believe that you couldn't get the first cylinder (with contract) without a spanish address, If i can get one at any Cepsa garage without that, that would be great

They are giving cylinders with a contract on production of a form if ID.... Passport or ID card....

I cannot confirm that the same applies to obtaining Propane....

 

[Steve and Denise]

We bought a used cylinder Propane in Benidorm for €20 plenty for sale

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