Pet passport obtained in France

[Bodoge]

I assume that you all obtain an Animal Health Certificate when travelling to EU and if you get a EU passport you won't need another AHC, but the EU requires an annual rabies vaccination whereas the UK one lasts 3 years, so if the french rabies vaccination expires before you next travel you won't be allowed in and you will need an AHC and vaccination. You also need an EU vet to issue a " fit to travel " endorsement on documents to be able to return to UK so giving your own wormer in most cases won't work. My vet in France has offered me an EU animal passport many times, apart from the extortionate cost of an AHC I can't see the benefits.

 

[Conniedriving]

Correct

Yes do NOT let a British vet touch that passport

 

[maz]

I assume that you all obtain an Animal Health Certificate when travelling to EU and if you get a EU passport you won't need another AHC, but the EU requires an annual rabies vaccination whereas the UK one lasts 3 years, so if the french rabies vaccination expires before you next travel you won't be allowed in and you will need an AHC and vaccination. You also need an EU vet to issue a " fit to travel " endorsement on documents to be able to return to UK so giving your own wormer in most cases won't work. My vet in France has offered me an EU animal passport many times, apart from the extortionate cost of an AHC I can't see the benefits.

The EU does not require annual vaccination. 3-year rabies vaccinations are readily available in the EU, although some areas (notably southern Spain) only administer 1-year vaccinations due to their proximity to Morocco.

You need a vet to administer worming treatment for your dog to return to the UK, as has always been the case. They do not need to complete the 'fit to travel' health check unless you are flying.

An EU Pet Passport not only does away with the cost of repeat AHCs, it does away with the 10-day time restriction to obtain one and the 4-month time limit on its use once in the EU.

 

[HKF]

I assume that you all obtain an Animal Health Certificate when travelling to EU and if you get a EU passport you won't need another AHC, but the EU requires an annual rabies vaccination whereas the UK one lasts 3 years, so if the french rabies vaccination expires before you next travel you won't be allowed in and you will need an AHC and vaccination. You also need an EU vet to issue a " fit to travel " endorsement on documents to be able to return to UK so giving your own wormer in most cases won't work. My vet in France has offered me an EU animal passport many times, apart from the extortionate cost of an AHC I can't see the benefits.

This is correct. We live in France and every time we go back to the UK (sometimes every couple of months) we need to visit our French vet beforehand for our dog to have a wormer tablet, which is recorded on her passport. Her rabies vaccination is only valid for 1 year, too.

 

[maz]

Yes do NOT let a British vet touch that passport

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British vets are allowed to complete the worming treatment section, which can be useful if you are only going to the EU for a very short period.

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[BikerJon]

Hi BikerJon Can you please tell me where you got the blanket from in the photo? I have a small piece exactly the same and I'd love a full blanket....but I've no idea where it came from. The piece I have came with one of the emergency rescue dogs we took in, so I've no way of tracing it. Thank you so much

Hi, it was a few years ago from Marks and Spencer.

 

[HKF]

Hi, it was a few years ago from Marks and Spencer.

Hi, it was a few years ago from Marks and Spencer.

Thank you so much

 

[maz]

Hi, it was a few years ago from Marks and Spencer.

Um, I think this might be in the wrong thread ......

 

[JockandRita]

Um, I think this might be in the wrong thread ......

Hi Marian.

It was in reply to HKF, asking where they got their dog blanket, so still topical...............technically.

Hope you and yours are enjoying the new life out there.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[maz]

Hi Marian.

It was in reply to HKF, asking where they got their dog blanket, so still topical...............technically.

Hope you and yours are enjoying the new life out there.

Cheers,

Jock.

Hi Jock - thanks for that. HKF has me on ignore because they didn't like me disagreeing with one of their posts. Hence I couldn't see their post about the dog blanket, and hence the apparent non-sequitur.

Yes, life is good here in Slovenia - thank you. Today I have been watching Golden Orioles in the trees around the house. So beautiful, and their song is almost tropical. How's life in Market Deeping? Or are you travelling at the moment?

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[JockandRita]

How's life in Market Deeping? Or are you travelling at the moment?

Fandabydozy thanks Marian. We are back from a week in Southwold, then off next week for a month or so, taking in RIAT, Bath, Swansea, Hereford, and Drax.
Now you and I will be getting told off for going off topic.

Cheers for now,

Jock.

 

[DaveHobson]

Just to add a PS to this post. My dog’s shiny new passport could not be used on our return to the UK. The reason was that the vet recorded the date of reading of the chip as the date of issue of the passport. This date was later than the latest rabies jab, so the passport was rejected by the Brittany Ferries checking person. This has been mentioned before in this thread, but I thought it worth emphasising - when the vet fills in the PP, MAKE SURE S/HE PUTS DATE OF READING OF THE CHIP ON OR BEFORE THE LATEST RABIES JAB. Not the end of the world for us - we just had to use the AHC. And we’ll have to get an AHC next time we come to France, when we’ll also get a rabies booster, after which the PP will be valid.

 

[maz]

Just to add a PS to this post. My dog’s shiny new passport could not be used on our return to the UK. The reason was that the vet recorded the date of reading of the chip as the date of issue of the passport. This date was later than the latest rabies jab, so the passport was rejected by the Brittany Ferries checking person. This has been mentioned before in this thread, but I thought it worth emphasising - when the vet fills in the PP, MAKE SURE S/HE PUTS DATE OF READING OF THE CHIP ON OR BEFORE THE LATEST RABIES JAB. Not the end of the world for us - we just had to use the AHC. And we’ll have to get an AHC next time we come to France, when we’ll also get a rabies booster, after which the PP will be valid.

That's a shame. Unfortunately this is an issue that catches many people out. If an EU Pet Passport is issued on the basis of transferred information, the date needs to be the date of implantation of the chip not the date of reading.

 

[maz]

I have just posted a separate thread in the Pets forum called 'How to Complete Pet Passports booklet'. This contains a file that you can download.

This booklet has previously been posted in a number of threads but hopefully it will now be easier to find.

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...te-pet-passports-booklet.286465/#post-5682759

 

[Monsoon]

I have just read the French government web site which states that an animal must be resident in France for more than 3 months to qualify for a Passport. It sounds from these experiences that this is not being enforced by some vets or is it that all of you who have EU pet passports have been away a long time to qualify?

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[Phill D]

I have just read the French government web site which states that an animal must be resident in France for more than 3 months to qualify for a Passport. It sounds from these experiences that this is not being enforced by some vets or is it that all of you who have EU pet passports have been away a long time to qualify?

That’s only in France, most passports have been acquired in more accommodating countries

 

[Reallyretired]

Our Belgian vaccine is valid for 3 years, as I believe is common to the whole of the EU except Southern Spain.
There is no need for the fitness to travel bit if you're on the ferry or tunnel.
Saves over £100 each trip so well worthwhile.

 

[maz]

I have just read the French government web site which states that an animal must be resident in France for more than 3 months to qualify for a Passport. It sounds from these experiences that this is not being enforced by some vets or is it that all of you who have EU pet passports have been away a long time to qualify?

Which website, please? And a link if possible.

 

[tkk]

This is correct. We live in France and every time we go back to the UK (sometimes every couple of months) we need to visit our French vet beforehand for our dog to have a wormer tablet, which is recorded on her passport. Her rabies vaccination is only valid for 1 year, too.

I might be incorrect re situation in France specifically but my dogs rabies van in Rep of Ireland (EU member) is for three years. I vaguely remember a thread in the past mentioning that duration of validity depended on the Brand of rabies vaccine and that you could request (in advance as shelf life means that it may not always be in stock) the three year version. Manufacturers product info usually states 3 year efficacy. However some now state that efficacy complete at 30 days, not the previous 21.

 

[DaveHobson]

I have just read the French government web site which states that an animal must be resident in France for more than 3 months to qualify for a Passport. It sounds from these experiences that this is not being enforced by some vets or is it that all of you who have EU pet passports have been away a long time to qualify?

I certainly wasn’t asked how long we’d been in France.

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[Eloceo]

That's a shame. Unfortunately this is an issue that catches many people out. If an EU Pet Passport is issued on the basis of transferred information, the date needs to be the date of implantation of the chip not the date of reading.

Thanks Maz, I hadn't been aware of this 'gotcha'. Having just reviewed our PP I notice that the originating French vet dated the chip entry as the date of reading (and issue) of the passport which is 4 months later than the Rabies jab earlier in 2021 (in UK). So, it looks like the 5 times we've used it since, we've been lucky that no-one either knew the completion requirements or looked very closely at the document. So, I think we'll keep away from Brittany Ferries in September and definitely get the Rabies booster when we get to Europe. Strange though isn't it, that 5 different vets in 5 different countries, and 10 different ferry employees have failed to identify that the passport fails to comply with the issue requirements.

 

[maz]

Thanks Maz, I hadn't been aware of this 'gotcha'. Having just reviewed our PP I notice that the originating French vet dated the chip entry as the date of reading (and issue) of the passport which is 4 months later than the Rabies jab earlier in 2021 (in UK). So, it looks like the 5 times we've used it since, we've been lucky that no-one either knew the completion requirements or looked very closely at the document. So, I think we'll keep away from Brittany Ferries in September and definitely get the Rabies booster when we get to Europe. Strange though isn't it, that 5 different vets in 5 different countries, and 10 different ferry employees have failed to identify that the passport fails to comply with the issue requirements.

That's really pretty amazing! So it would seem that the DFDS woman was right this time - although it would have been useful if she'd told you exactly what was wrong with the Pet Passport. Fingers crossed that you're able to use it to get back into the EU, otherwise it will mean an emergency AHC.

 

[15edward]

With My recently acquired French passport my dog had a new rabies jab -to last 2 years!

 

[Monsoon]

Which website, please? And a link if possible.

This is a link to one of the sources - the other one was in French and I cannot find it again

Reader Question: Can I Get an EU Pet Passport in France as a Second-Home Owner? - FrenchEntrée

Each month we answer one of your most frequently asked questions on buying or selling French property, moving to or living in France. This month, our FrenchEntrée Digital Editor, Zoë Smith, answers one of your most commonly asked questions regarding travelling to France with pets post-Brexit.

www.frenchentree.com

 

[maz]

This is a link to one of the sources - the other one was in French and I cannot find it again

Reader Question: Can I Get an EU Pet Passport in France as a Second-Home Owner? - FrenchEntrée

Each month we answer one of your most frequently asked questions on buying or selling French property, moving to or living in France. This month, our FrenchEntrée Digital Editor, Zoë Smith, answers one of your most commonly asked questions regarding travelling to France with pets post-Brexit.

www.frenchentree.com

This is just another inaccurate article based on the now notorious 'Brexit statement' that appears on the I-cad website - which is where their link 'read the official word on this here' takes you. This statement is badly worded and has resulted in many poor interpretations.

This 'Brexit statement' has been explored in some depth in other threads, particularly this one:
https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/i-cad-what’s-it-all-about.260645/

We even contacted I-cad themselves via the ever-helpful yodeli , and their reply was that I-cad registration is not necessary in order to obtain a French pet passport, and that they know of no law that says you have to be a French resident in order to obtain one.

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[Luna the Magic Van]

This is correct. We live in France and every time we go back to the UK (sometimes every couple of months) we need to visit our French vet beforehand for our dog to have a wormer tablet, which is recorded on her passport. Her rabies vaccination is only valid for 1 year, too.

Our rabies vaccination is valid for 3 years in France

 

[Landy Andy]

The first rabies jab given to a dog in France is valid for one year, and then on is every three years.

 

[Mad dog]

Just to add a PS to this post. My dog’s shiny new passport could not be used on our return to the UK. The reason was that the vet recorded the date of reading of the chip as the date of issue of the passport. This date was later than the latest rabies jab, so the passport was rejected by the Brittany Ferries checking person. This has been mentioned before in this thread, but I thought it worth emphasising - when the vet fills in the PP, MAKE SURE S/HE PUTS DATE OF READING OF THE CHIP ON OR BEFORE THE LATEST RABIES JAB. Not the end of the world for us - we just had to use the AHC. And we’ll have to get an AHC next time we come to France, when we’ll also get a rabies booster, after which the PP will be valid.

Dave, this happened to us too. I just emailed the vet & explained the mistake, they just sent me an amended passport in the post. We've been fine eversince.

 

[varaizian]

The first rabies jab given to a dog in France is valid for one year, and then on is every three years.

This is exactly our experience.

 

[highwood122]

The first rabies jab given to a dog in France is valid for one year, and then on is every three years.

this is very confusing to me, we have a 3 year old dog and travelled to s ireland via n ireland with an AHC and purchased a PP last month and intend to go to france september. i realise on return from france our dog will have to be wormed and rabies jab, how can i obtain a rabies jab that will last 3 years or do have to return via belgium

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