SOG Fan Broke- Dealers Mark Up is Shocking (1 Viewer)

[zac]

So my factory fitted roof Sog fan broke last weekend, it was working when we got back at Xmas but not anymore. The issue is the actual Fan itself and as my vehicle was going in for it's yearly damp check i decided to get them to look at it. They of course did but what i was not ready for was the cost to replace it which did not include the 1 hour to fit and test, they want £440 just for the fan which is shockingly high as online the same fan can be had for £114 delivered. Of course i have gone for the DIY fit as with the 1 hour of labour that would have brought this to just under the £600 mark, now i am all for making a profit but surely that's a little too much.

 

[Richard n Ann]

So my factory fitted roof Sog fan broke last weekend, it was working when we got back at Xmas but not anymore. The issue is the actual Fan itself and as my vehicle was going in for it's yearly damp check i decided to get them to look at it. They of course did but what i was not ready for was the cost to replace it which did not include the 1 hour to fit and test, they want £440 just for the fan which is shockingly high as online the same fan can be had for £114 delivered. Of course i have gone for the DIY fit as with the 1 hour of labour that would have brought this to just under the £600 mark, now i am all for making a profit but surely that's a little too much.

£114 sounds a lot to me I'd fit a £3 chinese Ebay fan on it

 

[zac]

£114 sounds a lot to me I'd fit a £3 chinese Ebay fan on it

It is a lot but the roof ones are a lot different to the toilet door ones, no idea why it costs so much to be honest as its just a small fan in a plastic housing.

 

[rod_vw]

Time to name and shame the dealer, that's way beyond greed!

Thank goodness my joints still let me do most of my own maintenance despite being 25x3 years of age! Been changing the front brake pads on our VW T6 this afternoon. Decent quality pads (Pagid) for a whisker over £54 from Euro Car Parts.

 

[Abacist]

Well my SOG also packed up just before we go away. My new original SOG fan and new filter kit is £295 delivered! Also outrageous but this might arrive before we go away whereas everyone else is quoting at least 2 weeks delivery! That’s from Travelworld. Mine is plumbed down into the floor and comes out down through the floor behind a panel in the garage to the outside under the van.

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[Podney]

Where there’s muck there’s brass!!

 

[raysalaugh]

Does it look like this one?

 

[TheBig1]

That fan must really suck!

 

[WESTY66]

That fan must really suck!

Not anymore apparantly

 

[Gromett]

Anyone have a picture of the fan? I presumed it was just a normal off the shelf shrouded fan after the carbon filter?

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[Abacist]

Here are thee pictures of my SOG. The first is the complete unit on its filter, the second is the filter only which is 11cms diameter and the third is the fan unit which is pretty small as you can see from my fingers.

I hope I can't get these cheaply elsewhere as I searched for ages but used the SOG name but no unbranded stuff came up.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Here are thee pictures of my SOG. The first is the complete unit on its filter, the second is the filter only which is 11cms diameter and the third is the fan unit which is pretty small as you can see from my fingers.

I hope I can't get these cheaply elsewhere as I searched for ages but used the SOG name but no unbranded stuff came up.


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Remember on Apollo 13 where they had to make a square fan fit a round hole?

 

[Gromett]

Looks like it is a MICRONEL D341T-012GK-2 motor?

UK supplier, so price isn't a rip off by SOG/Dealer

https://uk.farnell.com/micronel/d341t-012gk-2/fan-36mm-12vdc/dp/1175740

But you can get it from Germany a bit cheaper. Although not sure this is new

Axiallüfter, tube fan, micronel D341T-012GK-2, 12 VDC, 36x36mm, NEUWERTIG | eBay

Neuer ,ungebrauchter Axiallüfter, Modell D341T-012GK-2 (12 V=) der Fa. Der Axiallüfter D341T-012GK-2 von micronel ist ein kompakter Miniaturlüfter für Gleichspannungsbetrieb (12 V=) mit Flügel und Gehäuse Kunststoff (Mat. ).

www.ebay.co.uk

Whilst googling for alternatives I found this thread.

SOG Replacement Fan

Has anyone replaced the fan/motor on their SOG system, if so did you find a way of doing it cheaper than £60?

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[Abacist]

Remember on Apollo 13 where they had to make a square fan fit a round hole?

I can't say I'm in the mood for smiling much at the moment!

 

[Gromett]

Seems to me, this would be an ideal project for someone who does that 3D printing thingy. Find a more reasonably priced fan and design an adapter?

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[Lenny HB]

£114 sounds a lot to me I'd fit a £3 chinese Ebay fan on it

You can get the fan from Farnell used to be about £55 I think it's now £133.

You can buy a complete SOG through the roof kit for £230.

 

[zac]

Anyone have a picture of the fan? I presumed it was just a normal off the shelf shrouded fan after the carbon filter?

This is ours as it goes through the roof so slightly different to the floor ones. Still a rip off though as the price on the picture is plus postage but it's the cheapest in the uk

 

[Abacist]

Looks like it is a MICRONEL D341T-012GK-2 motor?

UK supplier, so price isn't a rip off by SOG/Dealer

https://uk.farnell.com/micronel/d341t-012gk-2/fan-36mm-12vdc/dp/1175740

But you can get it from Germany a bit cheaper. Although not sure this is new

Axiallüfter, tube fan, micronel D341T-012GK-2, 12 VDC, 36x36mm, NEUWERTIG | eBay

Neuer ,ungebrauchter Axiallüfter, Modell D341T-012GK-2 (12 V=) der Fa. Der Axiallüfter D341T-012GK-2 von micronel ist ein kompakter Miniaturlüfter für Gleichspannungsbetrieb (12 V=) mit Flügel und Gehäuse Kunststoff (Mat. ).

www.ebay.co.uk

Whilst googling for alternatives I found this thread.

SOG Replacement Fan

Has anyone replaced the fan/motor on their SOG system, if so did you find a way of doing it cheaper than £60?

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

Its an old thread with prices 7 years old. According to Travelworld the filter is £55 plus VAT on its own and a fan on its own from Travelworld is £214.79 plus VAT plus £12 for next day delivery once its been imported from Germany. Mine was nearly 11 years old. I need it quick and hopefully I'll get it in time. No time for any DIY disasters/lash-ups!

 

[Gromett]

Its an old thread with prices 7 years old. According to Travelworld the filter is £55 plus VAT on its own and a fan on its own from Travelworld is £214.79 plus VAT plus £12 for next day delivery once its been imported from Germany. Mine was nearly 11 years old. I need it quick and hopefully I'll get it in time. No time for any DIY disasters/lash-ups!

I understand the thread is 7 years old and the prices are wrong. I should have said why I linked it. Merle confirmed the motor with the same Farnel link that I gave. Which confirms it was the right one.

I think the price is probably correct but it is Micronel who are making the money on this job. I suspect it is a low demand line item for them hence the high price. Making a motor involves setting up production machines, taking wires and parts out of stock. assigning staff to make it. So they will probably batch produce 50 or 100 at a time then have to store them. That is a chunk of money they have tied up.

I am not making excuses for them. But I can understand why the price is so high. I am surprised SOG chose that motor to be honest. If I were them I would be looking to spec a Jelly bean part.

I know the above because I worked for Magnetek Universal Electric Ltd when I was a youngster.

 

[Bobbejaan]

That fan must really suck!

No chance of a Blow Job then, Squire ? ... Nudge, Nudge, Know what you mean, Squire !

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[Richard n Ann]

I would buy 2 of these and fit a standard 80mm computer fan between them :

80mm Computer Fan to 40/60/75/100mm Fan Duct Adaptor Vent Outlet | eBay

Allows connection of ducting to a conventional 80mm computer fan. Different outlet sizes available.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[dunnah01]

You can't just fit a plastic fan it has to be made from aircraft grade Motorhomium

 

[Northernraider]

So my factory fitted roof Sog fan broke last weekend, it was working when we got back at Xmas but not anymore. The issue is the actual Fan itself and as my vehicle was going in for it's yearly damp check i decided to get them to look at it. They of course did but what i was not ready for was the cost to replace it which did not include the 1 hour to fit and test, they want £440 just for the fan which is shockingly high as online the same fan can be had for £114 delivered. Of course i have gone for the DIY fit as with the 1 hour of labour that would have brought this to just under the £600 mark, now i am all for making a profit but surely that's a little too much.

Sadly most businesses nowadays don't want to just make a profit they want as much as they can get away with charging. Everyone wants to get rich quick.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Looks like it is a MICRONEL D341T-012GK-2 motor?

UK supplier, so price isn't a rip off by SOG/Dealer

https://uk.farnell.com/micronel/d341t-012gk-2/fan-36mm-12vdc/dp/1175740

But you can get it from Germany a bit cheaper. Although not sure this is new

Axiallüfter, tube fan, micronel D341T-012GK-2, 12 VDC, 36x36mm, NEUWERTIG | eBay

Neuer ,ungebrauchter Axiallüfter, Modell D341T-012GK-2 (12 V=) der Fa. Der Axiallüfter D341T-012GK-2 von micronel ist ein kompakter Miniaturlüfter für Gleichspannungsbetrieb (12 V=) mit Flügel und Gehäuse Kunststoff (Mat. ).

www.ebay.co.uk

Whilst googling for alternatives I found this thread.

SOG Replacement Fan

Has anyone replaced the fan/motor on their SOG system, if so did you find a way of doing it cheaper than £60?

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

Without seeming a total dummy

Could you not get a 12v fan of the required spec and fit it into a bit of tube the correct od.

Or even cut the old fan out of the tube and fit a new fan

 

[Gromett]

Without seeming a total dummy

Could you not get a 12v fan of the required spec and fit it into a bit of tube the correct od.

Or even cut the old fan out of the tube and fit a new fan

Try finding a fan of the same spec/size/shape etc. I can't.
It would need some 3D printing doing to design and develop a new shroud/mount/adapter and it still has to fit in that limited space.

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[Abacist]

I understand the thread is 7 years old and the prices are wrong. I should have said why I linked it. Merle confirmed the motor with the same Farnel link that I gave. Which confirms it was the right one.

I think the price is probably correct but it is Micronel who are making the money on this job. I suspect it is a low demand line item for them hence the high price. Making a motor involves setting up production machines, taking wires and parts out of stock. assigning staff to make it. So they will probably batch produce 50 or 100 at a time then have to store them. That is a chunk of money they have tied up.

I am not making excuses for them. But I can understand why the price is so high. I am surprised SOG chose that motor to be honest. If I were them I would be looking to spec a Jelly bean part.

I know the above because I worked for Magnetek Universal Electric Ltd when I was a youngster.

? Jelly Bean part?

 

[zac]

My replacement fan arrived yesterday, this thing is quite small so the fan must be very tiny inside it. Most places online were selling this for £160+ and only 2 places which are the same company were below this. Still better than £440 though, anything motorhome related seems to be x10 for cost.

 

[Minxy]

Without seeming a total dummy

Could you not get a 12v fan of the required spec and fit it into a bit of tube the correct od.

Or even cut the old fan out of the tube and fit a new fan

That's my thinking as ours isn't sucking as well as it used to do I'm going to have to investigate when we get home.

 

[Gromett]

? Jelly Bean part?

Electronics engineers term for a standardised part produced by multiple suppliers. Usually dirt cheap.

 

[zac]

That's my thinking as ours isn't sucking as well as it used to do I'm going to have to investigate when we get home.

You would make a fortune if you made something that used basic off the shelf parts.

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