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Discussion in 'Self-Build Motorhomes' started by knokinonabit, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. knokinonabit

    knokinonabit Funster

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    Hopefully someone can help with this.

    A friend of mine has bought a Transit on a K reg as a project.
    It has been converted inside and has the usual creature comforts.
    He tells me that it has windows fitted but is still on the V5 as a van.

    What does he need to do to get it registered as a MH/Van conversion.

    Thanks in ad van ce :BigGrin:
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    Hi he will need pics of inside, and outside showing number plates,from back and front,then send v5 off showing a change to MOTOR CARAVAN --THIS MAY OR MAY not result in a vosa inspection -to pass vosa he needs , 2 ring min cooker bed or seat to convert in a bed, sink, cupboard and a table -plus it now has to look like a m/h
    terry
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    List of possible answers search

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=d...torhome&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari
    [HI]Edit[/HI]
    Ill see if I can find some more and edit

    What makes a 'Motor Caravan'?

    For a vehicle to qualify as a 'Motor Caravan' in the UK in the eyes of the DVLA the following permanent fixtures must be present:

    Sleeping Accommodation
    There must be a bed with a minimum length of 6ft or 180cms
    The bed must be an integral part of the vehicle living accommodation area
    The bed must be permanent or converted from seats (the bed can fold away during the day)
    The bed fixtures must be secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side walls, unless it is over the drivers cab compartment.
    Door
    There must be a horizontal sliding door or an outward opening rear or side door.
    Seats and Tables
    There must be a seating area for diners to sit around
    The table can be fixed or detachable
    The table must mount directly to the vehicle floor or side walls
    The table mounting must be secured as a permanent feature, either bolted screwed or welded. The table itself can be detachable.
    Seats must be secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side walls
    The seats must be secured as a permanent fixture, either bolted, riveted, screwed or welded
    Permanently secured seating must be available for use at a table
    Water Container
    Note: DVLA do not state any requirements regarding water storage. However, most insurance companies state that the water tank should be onboard, or under the chassis. However, some insurance companies are happy with an external water container that can be moved, such as those used with a caravan.
    The vehicle must have an onboard or external (e,g, under the chassis) water container
    Note: The insurer Adrian Flux requires the water container to hold 6 gallons / 27 litres.
    Storage
    The vehicle must have at least one cupboard, locker or wardrobe
    The cupboard must be an integral part of the living accommodation area
    The cupboard must be a permanent feature, either bolted, riveted, screwed or welded
    The cupboard must be secured directly to the vehicle floor and / or side walls
    Cooking
    The vehicle must have cooking facilities powered by fixed gas, electric hob or microwave oven
    The cooking facilities must be secured directly to the vehicle floor or side wall
    The cooking facilities must be a permanent feature, either bolted, riveted, screwed or welded
    Gas and electric hobs must have a minimum or 2 cooking rings. Microwave ovens must have a power source (don't just fit one that can't be used)
    Gas cooking facilities with remote fuel supplies must have the gas supply pipe permanently secured to the vehicle structure
    Gas cooking facilities with remote fuel supplies should have the gas bottle, fuel reservoir secured to the vehicle structure
    Outside
    The vehicle must have at least one side window
    New! Since 2011 the DVLA are now asking that the vehicle look like a motor caravan from the outside. The details are yet unclear what is required. More information will appear here when available.

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    I'm not sure that it will meet all of the criteria that you have supplied, but he is at my house tomorrow and I can show him your posts and see what he says.
    Given the age of the van, and not having seen the interior, I would be doubtful of it being built to van conversion spec, especially as it has not had its V5 description changed.

    Might be more of a project than he wanted. :BigGrin:
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    Don't go panicking :BigGrin: chances are he will have a seat, come bed and cooker aready in :thumb: If the cooker and or sink is mounted into a cupboard this can be enough to double up as a wardrobe :BigGrin: Water can simlpy be contained in a 1 or 5 gallon placcy bottle with a very simple 12v pump.If a gas bottle is used then it needs to be in a supposed metal lined cupboard with drop vents.
    My mate and I could easy knock a basic van up in the day to pass the inspection :BigGrin: not that you would want it :Wink:
    Terry
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    Thank you for the replies.
    I have worked out that it is an EMC conversion, and I believe that they no longer exist.

    We will do our best to work out what is, and isn't, working on the van and fix or replace as we go along.
    Notice this has now turned into "we".
    Guess who got roped in to help. Expect a load of stupid questions in the future. :Doh:
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    When i was down the local DVLA office, there was a notice on the board that caught my eye about changes to SVA tests. It caught my eye as there was a camper displayed.

    Indeed it added that self builds would require SVA testing from January. I couldn't find anything online, so may be worth calling your local one and asking - before they are all shut down for good!

    I do know that a self build needs 'plating' or a weight type approval certificate - not sure how you would obtain that, presumably weighing at a weigh bridge and deducting from original max.
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    We :BigGrin: don't get stuck on welding fixing etc, the fixing of units could be as simple as a screw into either side wall or floor, or even clips so that unit can be fastened in place and removed if you need to use the van as a van.
    I have seen vans with a small student kitchen, and bed seetee from Ikea held in place with a couple of screws:BigGrin: tell him,Either spend money and do it right or keep the van as a shed :Smile: it will still pass the vosa requirements :BigGrin:
    Terry

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