Is LPG being phased out? (1 Viewer)

[LeahRose]

Hi all

Thanks for the heads up about the very disappointing news that Calor is discontinuing the 3.9kg & 4.5kg bottles, having finally managed to get hold of 2 for my Ducato Expedition 66.

So now I need to find an alternative asap. The gas locker is too small for a 6kg bottle and as the van is less than a year old I really don’t want to start modifying anything inside.

Having done some more searching on my, go to ‘font of all motorhoming knowledge’ aka Motorhome Funsters forum (you have no idea how much I have learnt from you guys ) I found a thread about underslung LPG tanks and although expensive it looks like it might be the best option for my van. I’ve since emailed and chatted to the guys at Autogas they sound great, thanks again for the recommendation.

I’ve also however read that LPG is due to be phased out at filling stations in 2024. I was wondering if any of you guys know if that means it will be phased out completely or will we still be able to fill tanks? Obviously I don’t want to spend all that money if I’m unable to use it in 2 years.

I’d be really grateful for any advice. Thanks

 

[Jonno1103]

It being phased out from traditional forecourts but there are a few initiatives to increase the availability at bulk fuel sites, motorhome dealers and even some builders merchants.

 

[pappajohn]

Calor is just one supplier.
Have a look for such as Flogas and check if they still do smaller bottles

 

[busbuddy]

One of the major forecourt management companies said it would remove lpg from all its sites to fit ev chargers by 2024 but ,if I remember right, they only had about 70 out of its 900 sites selling lpg anyway

 

[tonka]

Check if your locker might take a larger bottle. We once had a panel van and there was a lip at the bottom where you had to lift over a 6kg bottle. I cut the wooden lip out and could easily slide in an 11kg.

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[mikebeaches]

Would a 5 kg refillable safefill bottle fit in your locker? Dimensions are in the links.

Safefill Small 5kg LPG Refillable Gas Cylinder

Safefill Gas Bottle Small 5kg Refillable. Has an integral overfill protection device OPD. Gas come out of the cylinder when it is attached to an appliance.

lpgshop.co.uk

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[Langtoftlad]

I'm not convinced it's being 'phased out', just businesses evolve. If a location doesn't sell much, they'll use the space for something more profitable.

 

[Brains]

Get refillable bottles.
There are a number of systems/suppliers

There will always be enough suppliers of LPG, you will just have to look at the MyLPG.eu app on your phone for the latest updates

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Get refillable bottles.
There are a number of systems/suppliers

There will always be enough suppliers of LPG, you will just have to look at the MyLPG.eu app on your phone for the latest updates

Yep…. I keep a lookout when the underslung tank gets a bit on the low side. Never had a problem yet, but the Truma regulator is still in the (non) gas locker and all I need is a pigtail and the BBQ cylinder and good to go at a price. Pretty lucky to be in this situation but use the LPG apps to see what is around and no issues

 

[Riverbankannie]

Nanniemate is looking into this at the moment with her van which takes 3.9 kg bottles.

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[Nanniemate]

Hi all

Thanks for the heads up about the very disappointing news that Calor is discontinuing the 3.9kg & 4.5kg bottles, having finally managed to get hold of 2 for my Ducato Expedition 66.

So now I need to find an alternative asap. The gas locker is too small for a 6kg bottle and as the van is less than a year old I really don’t want to start modifying anything inside.

Having done some more searching on my, go to ‘font of all motorhoming knowledge’ aka Motorhome Funsters forum (you have no idea how much I have learnt from you guys ) I found a thread about underslung LPG tanks and although expensive it looks like it might be the best option for my van. I’ve since emailed and chatted to the guys at Autogas they sound great, thanks again for the recommendation.

I’ve also however read that LPG is due to be phased out at filling stations in 2024. I was wondering if any of you guys know if that means it will be phased out completely or will we still be able to fill tanks? Obviously I don’t want to spend all that money if I’m unable to use it in 2 years.

I’d be really grateful for any advice. Thanks

Nanniemate is looking into this at the moment with her van which takes 3.9 kg bottles.

My locker is only 50cm high with a lip but Charlie at Autogas thinks he ca get a 6Kg in there to try and keep the costs down for me as the cost of 2 smaller bottles in only a little cheaper than the bigger bottles

I am hoping the calor I have will last until I can get up there

 

[Barti Ddu]

Thanks for the heads up about the very disappointing news that Calor is discontinuing the 3.9kg & 4.5kg bottles, having finally managed to get hold of 2 for my Ducato Expedition 66.

So now I need to find an alternative asap. The gas locker is too small for a 6kg bottle and as the van is less than a year old I really don’t want to start modifying anything inside.

Two Gaslow 2.7kg refillable cylinders will fit in the gas locker of an Expedition 66. Other than adding an external fill point (can be very neatly done in the side rear plastic panel next to the locker), there's no other modification needed to the van.

 

[Nanniemate]

Two Gaslow 2.7kg refillable cylinders will fit in the gas locker of an Expedition 66. Other than adding an external fill point (can be very neatly done in the side rear plastic panel next to the locker), there's no other modification needed to the van.

That was my plan until Charlie at Autogas after getting pics and measurements and a long chat felt that to save me some £'s he could get the larger cylinder in. If not it back to 2x 2.7 ones

 

[Aly1]

 

[Minxy]

I found a lump hammer helped me get an 11kg Gaslow bottle into a locker in my then PVC which was only meant to take 6kg ones.

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[DuxDeluxe]

I found a lump hammer helped me get an 11kg Gaslow bottle into a locker in my then PVC which was only meant to take 6kg ones.

Actually, I can believe that. I am afraid…….very afraid

 

[poppycamper]

To your question....
Is LPG being phased out ....
NO most definitely not... and do not believe anyone who says otherwise..
It will always be here.

 

[shrek snr]

It

 

[shrek snr]

It should be on the increase ,I know its not totally clean but certainly better than diesel and petrol only vehicles.Still widely available in EU and here in WA Australia.

 

[poppycamper]

It should be on the increase ,I know its not totally clean but certainly better than diesel and petrol only vehicles.Still widely available in EU and here in WA Australia.

shrek snr .. in UK the problem is that very few vehicles use it for propulsion now..
We motorhomers use it for cooking and heating and as such some forecourts are removing there pumped LPG pumps.

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[Barti Ddu]

Aly1 - That's a very useful chart you've posted.

 

[shrek snr]

We use it for propulsion.

 

[Barti Ddu]

Autogas is definitely getting harder to find in the UK as filling stations remove the dispensers due to lack of mainstream demand. When was the last time you saw a car fill up with LPG here?

It's becoming a niche product for motorhomes, so hopefully more motorhome dealers and campsites will install pumps to meet our demand.

However, on the continent Autogas is still very easy to get hold of. Recently in France and Spain I had to wait several times for a car to fill up before I could fill myself. Renault and Dacia in particular seem to have really pushed into the LPG car market.

 

[EuroTrotters]

no, lots of similar posts on here.

 

[Gaston aires]

I see lots of salads eaten in the cold. It’s definitely becoming more difficult in some areas. Even Calor at Risby Suffolk have stopped selling it. Useless lot !
Phil upmetank.

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[poppycamper]

We use it for propulsion.

Yep thought you did.... we used to use for propulsion as well but now gas propulsion declining in UK but still have leisure use for it. However as demand for it decreases some think it will soon not be available..
WONT HAPPEN. There will always be requirements for pumped LPG..

 

[shrek snr]

I think it's only the small blue Butane bottles that are going.The Red Propane are still available.

 

[poppycamper]

I think it's only the small blue Butane bottles that are going.The Red Propane are still available.

No small reds going as well.

 

[LeahRose]

Thanks for the replies

A ton of great information, advice and ideas from everyone as always Thank you Plenty of food for thought Now to go away have a think and deliberate Happy days

 

[Trevor Wbm]

I suspect the ratio of the cost of the containers to the profitabilty of selling small amounts of gas even at the daft prices we pay on the UK is at least part of the issue. Phasing out LPG when so many rural communities rely on it would be difficult.