Hymer Headlight - MOT Fail (1 Viewer)

[Rosie and David]

I have an Exsis i with the multiple light bulbs. My local garage has just failed my MOT as the offside projector lens is cloudy and emits very little light. They have always been dim but even with upgraded night breaker bulbs, they are useless. Does anyone know if the projector unit can be removed and cleaned or replaced replaced at a reasonable price?

David

 

[tacr2man]

Its usually dirt build up on the rear of the lens ,at first stage but over time the reflector surface degrades , and is not recoverable .

 

[Lenny HB]

You may be able to get it apart but I doubt it, you can get replacements on eBay about £60 about a third of the price of Hymer.

Mine are the later type with a lever for flat dipping, I put LED bulbs in, I can see in the dark now & it's passed 3 MOT's with them.

Check the part number but here is an example.

Headlight Insert H7 1BL008193-007 Left/Right by Hella - Single | eBay

Hella Insert Headlight 90MM H7 DIP BEAM NOT UK DIP 1BL008193-007 OE 5751178. Product type : Insert, headlight, H7 90MM H7 DIP BEAM H/LAMP NOT UK DIP. Product typeHeadlight Insert H7. TypeHeadlight Insert H7.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Rosie and David]

Thank you, I’ll try and get the headlamp out tomorrow when it stops raining to find the part number. It’s booked in for a retest on Wednesday so may have to delay that. Not an unreasonable price compared with a headlamp replacement. I’ll let you know how it goes. It will be good to see at night anyway!

 

[Rosie and David]

The bad news is the garage not possible to separate the projector unit from the headlight. So it is a complete new headlight. Just ordered one from Brownhills £2152. Going for a lie down after a glass of wine

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[Lenny HB]

The bad news is the garage not possible to separate the projector unit from the headlight. So it is a complete new headlight. Just ordered one from Brownhills £2152. Going for a lie down after a glass of wine

Is it an HDI one?

 

[Figaro]

Blimey, a glass may not do it, might need the whole bottle at that price

 

[Rosie and David]

Is it an HDI one?

No, it's the halogen version. Apparently although it is a Hella light Hymer have the patent so no-one else can make it. Thank goodness it was only one! I think I will keep the old one and put it in a display case. Now got to wait 3 weeks for it to arrive.

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

Blimey, a glass may not do it, might need the whole bottle at that price

Just leave the entire case, it might take a while until the sobbing subsides…

 

[RustyRuss]

Don’t suppose you tried a breakers yard?

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[DavidG58]

I presume you must have xenon bulbs and self levelling

We got a replacement for just under £1500 from Reliance when we suffered our second glass failure

It does at least come with new bulbs

 

[Rosie and David]

Don’t suppose you tried a breakers yard?

No, not many of them down in Devon and I think Hymer headlights will be like hen's teeth. Also since it's failed the MOT, can't drive it until its fixed

 

[Rosie and David]

I presume you must have xenon bulbs and self levelling

We got a replacement for just under £1500 from Reliance when we suffered our second glass failure

It does at least come with new bulbs

No, pretty basic Halogen bulbs and not therefore self levelling. I already fitted new bulbs so at least I will have some spare

 

[RustyRuss]

When you get the new one post photos of it and the old one, there might be an innovative soul out there who can figure out how to fix it….

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The bad news is the garage not possible to separate the projector unit from the headlight. So it is a complete new headlight. Just ordered one from Brownhills £2152. Going for a lie down after a glass of wine

I would be asking them to justify that price.

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[HugoBNB]

I have an Exsis i with the multiple light bulbs. My local garage has just failed my MOT as the offside projector lens is cloudy and emits very little light. They have always been dim but even with upgraded night breaker bulbs, they are useless. Does anyone know if the projector unit can be removed and cleaned or replaced replaced at a reasonable price?

David

Pardon my ignorance, but which part is the projector lens? My reason for asking is that a stone punched a hole in the perspex cover on ours. Fortunately, the piece was just hanging on and I managed to refix it with clear epoxy. I was under the impression that this would not create a MOT fail. There is o ly a slight discolouration on the seam of the repair. Nothing that would prevent the passage of light IMHO.

 

[chaser]

The bad news is the garage not possible to separate the projector unit from the headlight. So it is a complete new headlight. Just ordered one from Brownhills £2152. Going for a lie down after a glass of wine

That's just short of what I paid for my van.

 

[Lenny HB]

No, it's the halogen version. Apparently although it is a Hella light Hymer have the patent so no-one else can make it. Thank goodness it was only one! I think I will keep the old one and put it in a display case. Now got to wait 3 weeks for it to arrive.

They used to be about £1k but only £700 in Germany, that price doesn't sound right it sounds like the price for the HID ones like Davids.

Have you had the unit it out yourself to see if it comes apart, you may have been given miss information.

 

[MisterB]

As you've ordered one, why not remove the old one and see if you can cut away part of the outer casing to get into the headlight and see if you can make some sort of repair. Or even cut the casing an inch or two from the front lense all the way round, leaving enough to make a repair. It won't hurt having a go .......

 

[DavidG58]

They used to be about £1k but only £700 in Germany, that price doesn't sound right it sounds like the price for the HID ones like Davids.

Have you had the unit it out yourself to see if it comes apart, you may have been given miss information.

The glass is bonded on, technically it must be removable as it was assembled , but definitely not a garage option

A very clever member on here put a thick plastic cover on my last broken unit for less than 10% of the cost of a new light

So there are options, but way beyond low level DIYers

Of course I will never need it now

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[L' Hobo]

The bad news is the garage not possible to separate the projector unit from the headlight. So it is a complete new headlight. Just ordered one from Brownhills £2152. Going for a lie down after a glass of wine

At that price I would be looking at fitting alternative headlights.

There must be alternatives for the chassis, I can't see white van man paying that sort of price?

 

[Lenny HB]

At that price I would be looking at fitting alternative headlights.

There must be alternatives for the chassis, I can't see white van man paying that sort of price?

Unfortunately not, photo below looking at it I would have thought it must be possible to replace the Hella units in them.

 

[tacr2man]

Unfortunately not, photo below looking at it I would have thought it must be possible to replace the Hella units in them.

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For that sort of money it would be worth a good try !

 

[Lenny HB]

For that sort of money it would be worth a good try !

My thoughts too, I'd certainly have a go nothing to lose.

 

[Diabalo]

Why back, I'm sure someone on here repaired their own then did it for others.

Found it but it was for the front lens cracking.

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/hymer-headlight-repair-prototype-finished.174786/

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[gus-lopez]

Yes it was GWAYGWAY.but no longer a member. Might be some other way of contacting him?

 

[L' Hobo]

Unfortunately not, photo below looking at it I would have thought it must be possible to replace the Hella units in them.

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I would have thought, in these days of 3D printing, something could be found.
It might not look the same but, for less than £2000+ a cheaper alternative could be found for future headlight problems.

When an alternative is found, Rosie and David could flog the good original one on the other side and use the money as startup capital for a new headlight supply business?

 

[chaser]

can you catch it on your gate and claim it on the insurance?
Just asking.

 

[TheBig1]

The sealed units can be disassembled with hot air and a lot of luck. A good hot air gun heats the glue till it can be separated. Then clean the glue off. Resilver the reflector. Polish the inside of the glass and reassemble with new mastic type glue

 

[Barryh]

can you catch it on your gate and claim it on the insurance?
Just asking.

And get your insurance loaded for the next 5 years. Last year we had a fault claim of £3500 on a car. We’ve got 3 vehicles including the Moho. 2 renewals so far and the claim has increased our premiums by at least £250. So say £375 for the three. £375 x 5 years is £1875 then plus inflation and whatever they might randomly add.

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