Wild with Consent

Interesting idea and business model. Yes, £100 a night is eye watering - but it is a unique product, that guarantees exclusivity and privacy. The lower fee of £25 sits rather more comfortably, but hey ho.

Where else can you find such assurance that you will be alone?

The terms and conditions for both motorhomes and landowners appear to have been given fairly careful consideration.

Good luck to them.
 
mikebeaches said:
Interesting idea and business model. Yes, £100 a night is eye watering - but it is a unique product, that guarantees exclusivity and privacy. The lower fee of £25 sits rather more comfortably, but hey ho.

Where else can you find such assurance that you will be alone?

The terms and conditions for both motorhomes and landowners appear to have been given fairly careful consideration.

Good luck to them.
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I did two pubstops this last weekend, free and alone on both (y) (y)
Not I might add britstops, just ordinary pubs out of park4night.
 
Jim said:
Does it specifically prohibit motorhomes?
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Not specifically. It excludes all motorised vehicles, except special vehicles for disabled people.

The wording used is:
Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 (Part 1, Chapter 2, Section 9)
(f) being on or crossing land in or with a motorised vehicle or vessel (other than a vehicle or vessel which has been constructed or adapted for use by a person who has a disability and which is being used by such a person);
 
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The Wino said:
Wow!. This could be a really big threat to wild camping if landowners get the idea that those sort of prices are the going rate.
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Why? I cant just rock up and park in someones garden, if its private land the owner is entitled to ask for a fee and you are entitled to decline and move somewhere else. It may even make Campsites look cheap ;)
 
Don't want to keep on, as folks can spend their money where they like, but if this was set up properly at say between £10 and £15 pounds, which is what your average park in a field is, or even small CLS , they would be sold out.
 
chaser said:
Don't want to keep on, as folks can spend their money where they like, but if this was set up properly at say between £10 and £15 pounds, which is what your average park in a field is, or even small CLS , they would be sold out.
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Yup but for £100 you see Mermaids at Sunset and Unicorns at Sunrise :unsure: and no one disturbing you

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chaser said:
Don't want to keep on, as folks can spend their money where they like, but if this was set up properly at say between £10 and £15 pounds, which is what your average park in a field is, or even small CLS , they would be sold out.
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But then they'd lose the 'exclusivity' (also known as 'snob-value') which appears to be one of their major selling points. :(
 
chaser said:
I did two pubstops this last weekend, free and alone on both (y) (y)
Not I might add britstops, just ordinary pubs out of park4night.
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That's fine chaser and we have done similar.

But this operation is offering something completely different.

Those of us that are retired have the time to seek out good spots, and if we occasionally can't find what we're looking for or just get the location wrong, we can afford to say 'it's only one night', we'll find a better place to overnight tomorrow.

But for folk who are working full time, have a shinny expensive van and just want to be assured their precious weekend away is somewhere peaceful and private (some might say romantic even), then why not?
 
Now I'm not pleading poverty as I am not talking about us but just look at a couple on pension, they maybe have to live on £40 - £50 a day where does £100 to sit in a field for a night come from.
 
chaser said:
Now I'm not pleading poverty as I am not talking about us but just look at a couple on pension, they maybe have to live on £40 - £50 a day where does £100 to sit in a field for a night come from.
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They might be parked near a babbling brook, with a big star filled sky above, woken early but gently for breakfast with birdsong. They can enjoy an idylic breakfast while watching a Kingfisher catch his. Well worth a ton for some.

Or they could spend £100 on a travel lodge and snuggle into pillows someone was dribbling on 6 hours early. Its all about customer perspective.

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Jim said:

‘Or they could spend £100 on a travel lodge and snuggle into pillows someone was dribbling on 6 hours early. Its all about customer perspective.’

What? Don’t Travel Lodge give you brand-new pillows every night?!?! o_O o_O ;)
 
Jim said:
They might be parked near a babbling brook, with a big star filled sky above, woken early but gently for breakfast with birdsong. They can enjoy an idylic breakfast while watching a Kingfisher catch his. Well worth a ton for some.

Or they could spend £100 on a travel lodge and snuggle into pillows someone was dribbling on 6 hours early. Its all about customer perspective.
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Must admit I do pretty much what you say in the first paragraph everyday for free. (y) :giggle::sun:
Second never been in a travel lodge in my life, but thought it was more like £50.:unsure:
 
Jim said:
They might be parked near a babbling brook, with a big star filled sky above, woken early but gently for breakfast with birdsong. They can enjoy an idylic breakfast while watching a Kingfisher catch his. Well worth a ton for some.

Or they could spend £100 on a travel lodge and snuggle into pillows someone was dribbling on 6 hours early. Its all about customer perspective.
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Description - "
Situated next to a pretty, disused bridge over the Bowmont Water, this site combines the tranquillity of the water with the majesty of the hills.

Sited on the edge of the Northumbrian National Park, this spot is perfect for exploring the hills either on foot or by bike. Access is very easy directly from a tarmac no through road."

Small Print

"Please be aware that the local hunt kennels are nearby, so you may hear when the hounds are being fed!"
 
chaser said:
Must admit I do pretty much what you say in the first paragraph everyday for free. (y) :giggle::sun:
Second never been in a travel lodge in my life, but thought it was more like £50.:unsure:
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Sorry I was wrong they are not even that much.

Amazing value prices - Travelodge

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Eggs said:
If anyone wants to pay £50-£100 a night to park in isolation with no facilities come to Suffolk and you can park on my mates farm, I haven't run it by him yet but I'm sure we can sort something out for you.
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Same here (y)
 
Who does one make the contract with? The 'agency' or the landowner?

Does one have to pay in advance?

If the contract is with the agent where is the 'consent'?

Pay the agent in advance, rock up, landowner says 'Agent has not paid me, so f*ck off trespasser'

Even if I were willing to pay those prices I think the whole arrangement is dodgy.

Geoff
 
nicholsong said:
Who does one make the contract with? The 'agency' or the landowner?

Does one have to pay in advance?

If the contract is with the agent where is the 'consent'?

Pay the agent in advance, rock up, landowner says 'Agent has not paid me, so f*ck off trespasser'

Even if I were willing to pay those prices I think the whole arrangement is dodgy.

Geoff
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If you look through the conditions I think you will see they have it pretty well wrapped up in their favour.
 
My understanding is, regardless of the fee level, it's illegal to allow commercial camping* without appropriate permissions.

Am I wrong?
Obviously allowing a mate or friends to stay is one thing... a commercial enterprise (such as this) is another.
 
As I see it by their own blurb, they have wild camped themselves and found these places which presumably they paid nothing for. Not a bad markup.

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According to the write up they take your money there and then at booking and then they have finished their involvement with you , you then have a contract with the landowner, and they then send the money less their take to the landowner.
 
Glamping has become big business. My daughter has just paid about £250 for a firm to come and set up a Yurt with all the home comforts in a field that they happen to own themselves to celebrate her other half's 40th birthday.

£100 does seem somewhat steep but if it was the right spot and alone then as a one off weekend treat I might consider it - better than a Yurt!!!
 
chaser said:
According to the write up they take your money there and then at booking and then they have finished their involvement with you , you then have a contract with the landowner, and they then send the money less their take to the landowner.
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Would seem to be a completley normal arrangement there then.
 
Jim said:
You could say the same about every package holiday ever booked
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Jim

On a package holiday you have the government scheme(The Package Travel and Linked Travel Arrangements Regulations 2018) into which all companies have to contribute, which protects the consumer.

Geoff

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