Wild Camping

stevewagner said:
Im assuming you mean citizen Kane 😁. Sorry but I don’t agree with you. They may look different from us and have a different lifestyle but in reality they are just the same as any full-timer whether it be in a converted minibus or a 150k Motorhome. There’s been many instances on here of poor sanitary behaviour by people with modern expensive motorhome. At the end of the day there are good and bad everywhere and unfortunately bad news travels faster than good.
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Hi Steve, I think you missed my main point in my comments on #Vanlifers, in that I didnt mention anything about what van they used, its value, or sanitary behavior.
My point was that #vanlifers (the clue is in the title) are full time vloggers, and spend most of their days filming, editing & uploading to You tube.
Because they are so visible on You Tube, they do promote a very tidy, litter aware existence and condemn all those that dont, as I also do.
They are full time FLT's also, never paying for anything they dont need to, like car parking fees, or campsites, nothing wrong with that either as like many others on here, I am am a wannabie FLT also.

My other point was that they are for the most part youngsters (living the nomadic dream), but after a few years of doing the same everyday, the realisation that they need a base to work from, plus in many cases start making plans for marriage, raising a family, having a more suitable home kicks in.
In many ways its like they are having an extended "Gap Year", travelling around Europe, which is also great life experience if you are young enough,(I did it backpacking in the far east) but IMHO Vanlifing for these vloggers can only last a certain amount of time, before the "honeymoon period" ends, and they start to get depressed and give it up completely.
The wilding spots/locations they share on various platforms, are spread all over the internet, because of this they are used by all campers, and then the litter and black waste problems start, the local councils perform the clear up once too often, then permanent restrictions are put in place to stop all, even us, using them.
Watch a few #vanlifers, follow them for any length of time and you will see more clearly what I mean.
LES
 
Interesting how various 'Funsters' see lives of FLT's , Vanlifer's and their behaviours.I follow one or two and have found most to be interesting and informative. One or two who "try" too hard to be entertaining and one or two who really just want to "sell" whatever gadget they can to earn some money from Amazon. First; I do not begrudge any of them their choice of lifestyle, I only wish I had had the opportunity earlier. I now intend to spend the next year or two roaming Europe, exploring all of the out of the way places that I may have missed in the last 50 years. (I'm 71). I, like many of them, do not want to spend my time on campsites with entertainment laid on, bars, restaurants or swimming pools. I would like to visit places that don't have these facilities. I appreciate that there may be times when it is inevetible that I do visit, to dispose of waste, load water and do my laundry. I would like to think that as MoHo owners, we are tolerant of peoples desires to be different and respect their choice without prejudice . This weekend and last, my female companion and I spent time on Dartmoor and before we left, we litter picked for 1/2 an hour. I suspect the litter was left by local Devonians who were enjoying the moor. We did see one family leaving litter but weren't in a position to challenge them.
 
Wind camping ain’t that a spin off from dogging?
 
Hi all, Over the years and even recently there have been posts on here about this but there will always be some who give us a bad name wild camping. One of the most common ones at the moment is hire Mo Ho's on the route 500 and all over Scotland. I must have picked up a small tipper truck of litter that people including Spanish day visitors have left behind. I will always clear up when possible before I leave a spot. My van is designed from new for independent living, 350ltr fresh water, 300lts waste water, 3 Cassette toilets, 3x125w solar, Inverters x 2, Aldi heating + diesel blown air heating 60ltr fitted gas tank+ 2 13kg calor bottles. I don't need a rip off campsite. ( £40+ a night and no eating place or swimming pool.)
This is rip off britain. It's a different story abroad, Plenty of space, fewer people and communities who welcome you and your spending power. Unfortunately there are going to be all sorts of inexperienced people buying vans and caravans at the mo and they are of the I know it all and don't need advice from you types witch are going to cause a lot of problems for all of us. I remember when I started with my first Mo Ho I was always parking up and visiting the next door van saying is it ok here for ,whatever.
Be tolerant and don't knock otter people for doing something that you don't choose to do yourself. If you want to book campsites for every night in advance and pre-select a route on motorways that's fine by me. I personally leave the ferry in France and say to the wife " left or right". or I pick a place I wan't to end up at and choose where I go and visit each day and stop when I like the look of a place.
Most importantly Watch what others are doing, Blend in with the locals so as not to be called "those bl***y brits" be considerate to others and if possible, sociable ( I know it's hard for some of us)
and the most important thing LEAVE ONLY TYRE TRACKS. and have FUN in your own way
All the best to everyone
 
Or was it mohos....? Although some look like buckets of ----
 
Wow what a reminder of the past, I served my apprenticeship at “are you ready for this” Triangle Motor Company in Hull, the Logo was Humber. Hillman Carrier and Cob along with Commer. I worked many times on the same vehicle in the photograph and thoroughly enjoyed it, in those days we used to mend things as they say as it wasn’t a throw away and replace situation. For my sins I finished up as the Service Manager and retired in 2008 but by then we had moved on tho Audi VW and Mercedes car truck and van So I was fortunate to see a be involved in the massive technology changes that we have in today’s vehicles.

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I think we all enjoy following the stories of people that have done the normal life thing, and have now got the opportunity to go full time travelling. All you need is your health, an income/savings to cover your costs, a reliable van & a fair wind.
Unlike #Vanlifers, (Vloggers) dont publicise it every day on You Tube, keep sch tum, and keep the location of your wilding spots to yourself, let others discover them for themselves, if you want to preserve it as it is for the future.
Good luck & best wishes to the likes of Thedriver, there is no advice better than experience, and thoughtfulness for your surroundings and others you share it with.
LES
 
Jim said:
Just google it. It is massive. Young kids living in self built vans. Some youngsters who have had say a YouTube channel for less than a year have 5 times the number of followers than there are Funster’s. It is massive. Regular Motorhome fans are outnumbered 20 to 1
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And earning a small fortune from it
 
You tube cut its achievable earnings dramatically a couple of years back, along with way the monies are paid out to the vloggers. Check it out on Google, its all based on the number of hits a vlog gets each time its posted. Not the number of subscribers so much.
I agree with Jim, they put a lot of hard work into producing their daily vlogs, some are really good at photography, & audio editing, and have spent loads on their cameras, sound recording devices,drones, laptops and editing software.
A daily vlog will take up the whole day, in filming from many angles using different cameras, then editing video & sound, before being ready to upload to You Tube, which can take hours again.
Its very much dependent on location wi fi/phone signal strength, hence why they usually mention the signal strength at each of their locations.
I am learning the key to success to be a successful vlogger, over the longer term, is to post less often, but increase the quality of the subject matter, so its used as a reference point, in the coming years. I know the regular "subscribers" seem to appreciate that more also.
Another key to success, seems to be to include a dog, people can watch a dog chasing a ball on a beach for hours:giggle:

You would think that one day they could walk straight into a career in Photography, or film production, I wish I had their editing knowledge, and filming expertise.
LES
 
Do you not think that for quite a lot of people it isn't a lifestyle choice but a life necessity? Faced with low wages, zero hours contracts etc etc, then wild camping in a cheap MH makes a lot of financial sense compared to renting somewhere. These days, with a deposit, agent's fees, month in advance, even renting the cheapest place you will need best part of a couple of grand. Then council tax alone can be crippling (son was paying £120 a month for a one bed flat over an indian takeaway around 5 years ago).

Someone was telling me about streets/beauty spots in and around Bristol where they are all parked up, who can blame them if they need to work in the city but can't afford the rents?

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pandas said:
Maybe just had a glass too many but I was thinking about a post related to a preference by some for Wild Camping in the UK.
Having thought about I do do think it is possible certainly anywhere south of the Watford GP without having a detrimental effect on local communities.
Particularly now when every Tom Jack and Harry with their dog is at it.
Nice thought though but maybe of another era?
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So you have had a drink too many.
 

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