Which rivnut to attach solar panel to aluminium angle (2 Viewers)

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Lizbiebrowne

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I've taken delivery of my solar panel, my aluminium angle is on order and I plan to use rivets to attach the two together.

So should I use aluminium rivnuts and aluminium bolts to hold the two together to avoid galvanic corrosion? Are aluminium bolts strong enough? Or should I use steel bolts or rivnuts or both?
 
Oct 21, 2021
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You would be better to use "plus nuts"
They have a larger internal grab area when compressed.



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MisterB

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enough to know i shouldnt touch things i know nothing about ....
I used M6 but then I also added some self tapping roofing bolts aswell, still holding string, though I do check them every now and again...
 
Nov 2, 2022
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Be aware that some solar panels have sides that are hollow, i.e. 2 layers of aluminium with a 2-3mm gap. You can easily crush and deform the sides.

Most panels come with mounting holes in the single skin base.
 
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I used Tech Fast self drillers to attach the panels to our plastic mounts. The bigger problem is how you fix your aluminium brackets to the roof. I used Sikaflex and sealed Tech Fasts. No problems with any fixings after 4 years and 35k
 
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I've taken delivery of my solar panel, my aluminium angle is on order and I plan to use rivets to attach the two together.

So should I use aluminium rivnuts and aluminium bolts to hold the two together to avoid galvanic corrosion? Are aluminium bolts strong enough? Or should I use steel bolts or rivnuts or both?
I used 8mm alloy rivets that were 18mm long with no issues from the double skinned panel frames. Heavy engineering , but why not!
The bolts to attach to the 50x50 alloy angle are stainless steel, again no problems during the 18 months that they have been on the roof. Final attachment was purely bonding.
 
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Lizbiebrowne

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You would be better to use "plus nuts"
They have a larger internal grab area when compressed.



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Too late, I've ordered the rivnut tool now.
I used M6 but then I also added some self tapping roofing bolts aswell, still holding string, though I do check them every now and again...
I don't want to put any holes in my roof
I used M6 rivnutsView attachment 929510 and stainless button head cap screws.

I used 8mm alloy rivets that were 18mm long with no issues from the double skinned panel frames. Heavy engineering , but why not!
The bolts to attach to the 50x50 alloy angle are stainless steel, again no problems during the 18 months that they have been on the roof. Final attachment was purely bonding.

That was my gut feeling - use aluminium rivnuts and stainless steel bolts. I don't live near the sea so I was not expecting corrosion to be an issue.
 

MisterB

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enough to know i shouldnt touch things i know nothing about ....
I don't want to put any holes in my roof
I didn't ....I added the self tappers through the fixing frame NOT into the roof !!? I used the plastic corner and side mounts not aluminium angle ...
 

Lenny HB

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I used M4 rivnuts I wanted M5 or M6 but out of stock of ones with the right panel thickness.
The side rails on my panels were double skinned the rivnuts pulled though and lock against the outer skin.
I used silicone grease as a barrier on the rivnuts and the washers when fitting the brackets, as I used stainless rivnuts.

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Feb 27, 2011
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Last time on a PVC I used stainless steel self tappers and copious quantities of Sika.
But back then I hadn't heard of rivnuts.

I will now use rivnuts to connect the solar panel to the aluminium angle. Probably still use self tappers to attach the angle to the van roof though.
Last one held up for 10 years and no sign of any corrosion when they were removed.
 
Feb 27, 2011
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There is a mastic product called Duralac which is used to prevent galvanic corrosion in stainless bolts in aluminium rivnuts on boat spars.

Excellent product.

Tony

If you cover the stainless steel there is little if any opportunity for galvanic corrosion as I understand it.
Basically without water/moisture it cannot happen?

That is why I covered my install with Sika. Not sure it needs a product specifically designed for it?
 
Jan 25, 2024
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It’s to keep moisture out of the spaces between the ally and stainless, such as in the threads.
Avoids a cell which is what galvanic corrosion is all about.

Tony

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Oct 18, 2019
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Duralac is the correct barrier product to use as Jabstatt says, however in reality your motorhome is likely to fall to pieces long before the stainless screws/ally rivnuts give way.
 
Jan 25, 2024
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It’s not about them failing.

It’s to make it easy/possible to dismantle.

Rivnuts are a great easy to use solution but if the bolt is corroded, the whole thing turns and, by definition, it’s usually inaccessible in a blind hole.

Ever owned a Landrover??

Tony
 

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