Which of you have never had a 'Habitation Check'?

[Jamesh]

I do habitation checks everytime I go out:-

Water from yorkshire✓
Milk ✓
Tea bags✓
Bedding✓
Loo roll✓
Cider✓
Bacon bread and ketchup✓
3AAA battery lights✓
Portaloo not overflowing✓
Gas bottle not empty✓ !!!!

Cheers James

 

[Beltie]

I doubt if there are any dealers that do hab checks know what that is.

Every hab check I've ever had done jas included a gas pressure drop check, and I've watched it being done. Outsi

 

[TDub49]

So come on who has habitation checks?

Is it just 'Newbies', new owners who are told that without it the warranty is invalidated?

Do more experienced owners ignore the concept?

Do owners of better quality MHs have the checks

If you take a MH back to a dealer is the gas system checked by a gas engineer specifically qualified on butane/propane systems and does one get a certificate accordingly?

I bought my first/only MH 12 years ago and have never had a habitation check. I had one small window seal leak 3 years ago but it might not have shown on day of check, like MOT.

Your thoughts please, together with:-

What Motorhome(s) you have owned?

Whether you have had habitation checks and why?

What they have found?

Would you always have a habitation check on any MH in the future?

Geoff

Different question, same topic: "Has anyone had a warranty or insurance claim rejected because the habitation check was out of date?"

 

[Stealaway]

Nope - never been mentioned

 

[bexleyjohn]

If you want it checked by a professional fine, if you want to do it yourself fine. I would never buy a second-hand MH with no service history. Same as I wouldn’t buy a second-hand car for the same reason. I do agree though that the habitation check is too expensive.

it’s a bit like the dentist - check-ups and treatment so so expensive that millions don’t bother. Meanwhile their teeth are rotting away,

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[WESTY66]

A what????

 

[Sapper520]

A what????

Got outstanding warranty work, Van almost a year old and the work has been outstanding for more than 8 months…..close to at least getting the parts delivered to me.

No Hab Check no warranty………and the outstanding work must be approaching £1500 (Including labour).

It’s in the T&C’s.

 

[Tea Bag]

next ten or fifteen years!

Hi.
Split the difference.....20 yrs.....
tea Bag

 

[Hirsch]

Had one last week

 

[Ninjabob]

If you want it checked by a professional fine, if you want to do it yourself fine. I would never buy a second-hand MH with no service history. Same as I wouldn’t buy a second-hand car for the same reason. I do agree though that the habitation check is too expensive.

it’s a bit like the dentist - check-ups and treatment so so expensive that millions don’t bother. Meanwhile their teeth are rotting away,

The only habitation check result worth reading as a buyer is the most recent one done and that would have to be very recent.

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[Off da Grid]

Nop.

 

[kevenh]

Out of warranty 56 plate motor home: -
I check for damp (visually after rain storms)
Have a gas meter
Press the test button on both fire alarm types pretty offen
And check the 240v RCD

I may use a mobile MH service team to do a check one day but

 

[busby]

Different question, same topic: "Has anyone had a warranty or insurance claim rejected because the habitation check was out of date?"

Why would an insurance co.pany reject a claim because of no habitation check.Its not law and I doubt insurance companies have ever heard of them.BUSBY.

 

[bigwood]

I used to keep up the habitation check until last year. It was due when the travel restrictions were in place and I couldn’t find anyone local that could do it.
Considering it meant a day trip and the cost was going up I think the money could be spent elsewhere .

 

[TDub49]

Why would an insurance co.pany reject a claim because of no habitation check.Its not law and I doubt insurance companies have ever heard of them.BUSBY.

Don't know, which is why I am asking. However, it is not unknown for underwriters to look for any reason that can find for not paying out and failure to adequately maintain the insured item/property is one avenue they consider. Whilst not a legal requirement, habitation checks seem to be part of the established "norm" of moho maintenance and could be included in the underwriters' search for reasons not to pay or to not pay the full claim.

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[Speve]

Don't know, which is why I am asking. However, it is not unknown for underwriters to look for any reason that can find for not paying out and failure to adequately maintain the insured item/property is one avenue they consider. Whilst not a legal requirement, habitation checks seem to be part of the established "norm" of moho maintenance and could be included in the underwriters' search for reasons not to pay or to not pay the full claim.

I think they would be stretching it a bit to use that as an excuse not to pay

 

[tonyidle]

If you want it checked by a professional fine, if you want to do it yourself fine. I would never buy a second-hand MH with no service history. Same as I wouldn’t buy a second-hand car for the same reason. I do agree though that the habitation check is too expensive.

it’s a bit like the dentist - check-ups and treatment so so expensive that millions don’t bother. Meanwhile their teeth are rotting away,

A dentist is a professional I'd trust. However his skills (or lack of them) are normally not a life or death issue. Servicing a motor vehicle very often can be. I might choose to have a vehicle serviced by a 'professional' for convenience (I haven't ever done so so far). However I'd make sure I understood exactly what was being done and would check any safety-critical systems myself afterwards. I have very limited trust in anyone involved in the motor trade.

 

[TDub49]

I think they would be stretching it a bit to use that as an excuse not to pay

And of course, it is unheard of for underwriters/los adjusters to "stretch things a bit" . . . . . . .

 

[busby]

Don't know, which is why I am asking. However, it is not unknown for underwriters to look for any reason that can find for not paying out and failure to adequately maintain the insured item/property is one avenue they consider. Whilst not a legal requirement, habitation checks seem to be part of the established "norm" of moho maintenance and could be included in the underwriters' search for reasons not to pay or to not pay the full claim.

Well when my van was written off in 2010 they paid out in full with no mention of habitation check evidence.BUSBY.

 

[Sapper520]

Well when my van was written off in 2010 they paid out in full with no mention of habitation check evidence.BUSBY.

I suppose if it was as a result of a gas leak or alike, maybe they’d show an interest in Hab checks then?

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[Speve]

And of course, it is unheard of for underwriters/los adjusters to "stretch things a bit" . . . . . . .

I think you are over worrying just get out and enjoy your van

 

[busby]

I suppose if it was as a result of a gas leak or alike, maybe they’d show an interest in Hab checks then?

Don't honestly think insurance companies are as bad as some make out.In 60 years of driving I have never had a problem with health and travel insurance claims,,RTA claims ,,building and content claims.May just be lucky.BUSBY.

 

[Minxy]

Different question, same topic: "Has anyone had a warranty or insurance claim rejected because the habitation check was out of date?"

I suppose if it was as a result of a gas leak or alike, maybe they’d show an interest in Hab checks then?

How would they prove it was due to the lack of a hab check? We had one and then 2 months later had a 'blow torch' in our MH, this was down to a badly installed BBQ point by the dealer who also did the hab check, they hadn't done anything about it then and as we found even though it passed a gas pressure test it eventually failed.

 

[nicholsong]

As far as the connection between a habitation check and a denial of cover by an insurer is concerned, as a matter of general insurance law the insurer would have to prove that there was an 'exclusion', either under a specific exclusion clause, or by there being a breach of policy conditions that require a habitation check to be carried out.

That latter requirement would be difficult for an insurer to write into the policy, unlike an MOT, because how could they specify what it should cover and by whom it should be conducted? Can of worms for them and unlikely to deny many claims on that basis.

Geoff

 

[Peppadog]

VW t2 Dormobile was first in 1979. Rapido folding caravan was next. Then a CI Meridian coachbuilt, then another VW. A new T4 bilbo Celeste this time. The an Eriba Caravan, then the Current Hymer. All these either were concurrent with the one before, or replaced it. There are no time gaps.

None of these have had a Hab test except the Hymer came with one. It won’t be getting one until just before I sell it. And then only if a private sale.

Problems are rectified as they occur. I use a gas sniffer for potential leaks. I have damp meters to ensure its dry.

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[Calamaster]

'Hab Check' is like MOT - worthless the day after it is done. Had 'Hab check' - PASSED - 2 days later in Storm in Wales water came in via rusted screws fitting Roof Solar Panel and SILKA 512 Sealant compromised. The fact that to get to the problem the 'hab check' would have had to take off the Solar Panel' (Which I did) to find the issue. All fixed properly now and will now check such things 'properly' myself.

 

[TR5]

I doubt if there are any dealers that do hab checks know what that is.

Hence the reason I use a mobile NCC approved guy, and I can SEE what he does. And yes, a full electrical safety check and a gas soundness test is done each time. He also reports on the age of the flexible gas hoses, the fire extinquisher age, etc...

 

[drpeej]

I've just had a Habitation check at home from HabCheck. (First for many years)

The engineer has identified an issue with our Thetford Caprice cooker. The flame failure device on the oven is faulty and needs replacing. This company does not do repairs (one reason why I chose them to do an independent check) so can anyone recommend a mobile gas-safe service engineer or a service centre in the south midlands area? (preferably with a reasonable waiting list)