Wheel nuts check

[poppycamper]

One of my pet hates is wheel nuts done up with a windy gun that need the strength of Hercules to undo. I have the wheels off to check brakes and hubs, at least twice a year, and always use a torque wrench to do them up.

Never witnessed that.. they always start with windy gun and then go round and tighten with torque wrench.......

 

[RobbyMClark]

Excuse me, but I check my nuts regularly.

The Boss Lady often gives us a hand!!
That's why I call her "Spanner"

 

[Ivory55]

So your brakes have not been serviced or indeed properly checked in 6yrs????

That was covered before by someone on here who owns a garage and explained checking brakes etc without removing the wheels. It was on a similar thread about wheels being stuck on. I can’t remember the poster.

 

[2GB Racing]

It is often possible to check the remaining amount of friction material left on pads without removing a wheel, But a good idea I’m not so sure, On mine wheels of once a year standing on axle stand after raising with a bottle Jack, Interesting that in the Peugeot Boxer handbook the torque setting is for dry threads ie no ( copper ease )

 

[Ivory55]

It is often possible to check the remaining amount of friction material left on pads without removing a wheel, But a good idea I’m not so sure, On mine wheels of once a year standing on axle stand after raising with a bottle Jack, Interesting that in the Peugeot Boxer handbook the torque setting is for dry threads ie no ( copper ease )

The copper grease is on the back of the wheels not the threads , it’s to stop them sticking on

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[XxAnthxX]

Can anyone post the correct torque setting. Most tyre sales ops torque the wheel nuts when removing wheels as do service centres.

 

[pelican]

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I assume the Fiat studs are slimmer

 

[XxAnthxX]

I assume the Fiat studs are slimmer

The Fiat studs come in two different thread diameters M14 and M16....depending on the chassis/hubs.

 

[gus-lopez]

That was covered before by someone on here who owns a garage and explained checking brakes etc without removing the wheels. It was on a similar thread about wheels being stuck on. I can’t remember the poster.

It is often possible to check the remaining amount of friction material left on pads without removing a wheel, But a good idea I’m not so sure, On mine wheels of once a year standing on axle stand after raising with a bottle Jack, Interesting that in the Peugeot Boxer handbook the torque setting is for dry threads ie no ( copper ease )

Yes you can see the pads & whether they have enough on them.What you can't do is take the outer lip off with a file/flap wheel so you can check the discs are not undersize as they are also a service item now that asbestos pads have been done away with.

I assume the Fiat studs are slimmer

They might be conical? Transit is higher I think because it is a flat washered nut that is just clamping.

 

[XxAnthxX]

They might be conical?

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[Ivory55]

Yes you can see the pads & whether they have enough on them.What you can't do is take the outer lip off with a file/flap wheel so you can check the discs are not undersize as they are also a service item now that asbestos pads have been done away with.

They might be conical? Transit is higher I think because it is a flat washered nut that is just clamping.

I guess it’s down to what is listed on the service that the garage gives a price for. A service is a very vague statement, and goitre by how cheap most want it done I should imagine that the price doesn’t cover removing the wheels. Everything is down to money.

 

[ChrisL]

I'd recommend, one of these for getting the wheel nuts undone.

Amazon product ASIN B002PMJ2LE
And one of these for doing them back up.

Amazon product ASIN B009YTQFH0
If buying torque wrenches make sure you get one that's been calibrated, it should have a calibration certificate with it.

 

[Garfields]

Re Alloy wheels sticking onto the hubs
A safer way than crawling under with a hammer (big hammers and alloy wheels don't mix well) along with the crap supplied jack,cant think many carry axel stands.
Slacken all the nuts about four turns
Drive forward and brake then the same in reverse
This should be enough to break them free
Re jack up van and proceed as normal
Some copper slip on the mating surface is the best solution as others have said
Don't let grease get on the taper of the wheel bolts though

 

[CamperJack]

This was my solution.

 

[mitzimad]

I always use a hex socket on wheel nuts the multifit ones are to weak

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[poppycamper]

This was my solution.

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Much easier and more effective if you support opposite end of wheel brace on something (block of wood or similar.. or even your jack) less chance of damage to wheel nut/bolt. Keeps wrench square on nut/bolt.

 

[Steve L]

Torque Wrenches are relatively inexpensive these days. I keep one in the van and unfortunately have had to use it several times. Sequence tighten the I go around for a final check. When I had a proper job I used to be involved with Multi spindle nutrunners for various MVI assembly applications including fitting wheels.

 

[Steve L]

Use Impact socketrs Hex (6pt) not BiHex (12pt) and preferably surface drive.

 

[Bessy765]

I just carry a torque wrench with an impact socket, its big enough to undo them and capable of tightening them correctly, also as it is carried by my handbrake could come in handy for any other problems

 

[TOAD on Tour]

The Boss Lady often gives us a hand!!
That's why I call her "Spanner"

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[poppycamper]

I just carry a torque wrench with an impact socket, its big enough to undo them and capable of tightening them correctly, also as it is carried by my handbrake could come in handy for any other problems

BIG BIG no no... torque wrenches are precition tools and should NEVER be used to undo any nuts/bolts
They are designed to (as it says on the tin) torque up nuts/ bolts.

 

[Bessy765]

So as mine can also torque left hand threads as found on small trucks say a transit 35 cwt twin wheel up to 44 ton artics it cannot be used to undo a wheel nut. The only thing is to release the tension when not using it.