What would you Tow With?

fifthwheel said:
For me it would have to be a Toyota, I wouldn't have anything Land Rover.
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Are your Land Rover comments based on actual ownership by yourself?
All too often the soothsayers hear secondhand stories from a bloke in the pub.
I have to agree with you on Toyota's, they're a bit dull but, reliability & build quality comes way before dull.

I've owned many Land Rovers & yes build quality was a bit wanting but, they could drive through the snow in my area when nothing else could move.
 
Blue Knight said:
TM,

We had the same challenge when we were looking at buying the large Airstream (684/Colorado) which had an MTPLM of 2,680kg.

The Airstream owners of UK-specific rigs use a variety of vehicles but if it were me then I would opt for an L322 Diesel Rangey; a older style RR Diesel Sport or a large Landcruiser but that's because of their towing ability and their top end hitch weight allowance.

The smaller Airstream (534/Missouri) has an MTPLM of circa 1.8T so your choice of suitable vehicles increase exponentially.

All the best,

Andrew

Edit: A Disco-4 seems a popular vehicle too.
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Was pitched up next to a twin-ax Airstream (634?) last week being hauled by an older SWB Defender which was loaded to the gunnels as well!:eek: Just didn't look right!:(
 
I tried a few range rovers before I bought the ML, every single one had fault lights on. Supercharged vogue was very impressive to drive but too fragile.
 
ambulancekidd said:
Are your Land Rover comments based on actual ownership by yourself?
All too often the soothsayers hear secondhand stories from a bloke in the pub.
I have to agree with you on Toyota's, they're a bit dull but, reliability & build quality comes way before dull.

I've owned many Land Rovers & yes build quality was a bit wanting but, they could drive through the snow in my area when nothing else could move.
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Yes based on ownership and having a son in the garage/mot business. This was only a turbo failure job they had in would you believe. range rover.jpeg

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jongood said:
I tried a few range rovers before I bought the ML, every single one had fault lights on. Supercharged vogue was very impressive to drive but too fragile.
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I’ve had a lot of issues with MERCEDES.

Lots and lots and lots.

I still run a 7G Sprinter. Lost my S500 in March after it set alight whilst parked up overnight. Electrical fault.

I have just had a recall notice on my Sprinter for a glow plug module that could cause a fire.

Thinking of something else
 
fifthwheel said:
Yes based on ownership and having a son in the garage/mot business. This was only a turbo failure job they had in would you believe. https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/attachments/range-rover-jpeg.307536/
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Gordon Bennett. :eek: On most engines, if you couldn't access the turbo, you'd remove the engine, not the bodywork from the chassis. I'd hate to think what the bill was, in labour charges alone. :Eeek:
That would put me off buying a Range Rover for life. :(

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
Toyota Granvia 2.7L petrol RWD auto. Grey import. Ours is a 1997 imported 2011 that was converted to a camper by Wellhouse. Originally it was a 7 seater MPV.
 
fifthwheel said:
Yes based on ownership and having a son in the garage/mot business. This was only a turbo failure job they had in would you believe. View attachment 307536
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You certainly know your stuff mate.

Yes I knew that you had to remove the body on Range Rover, Sport & Discovery 3 onwards to change a turbo.
I had a Vogue SE TDV8 & I have to confess that it kept me up at night worrying about some of the possible failures.
I don't rate the V6 or V8 engines & for that reason I wouldn't have another, oil pump failure & timing belt self destruction.
Its a real shame as they're lovely vehicles to drive & they're very capable off road.

I don't understand why they didn't design the engine to have the turbo in the V of their V6 & V8s as Mercedes have in our current 4x4.
 
As said before. Turbo can be removed with body on. Just need to cut through studs. I’ve done one.
 
Vw Touareg
4.2 V8 on auto trader. Only 5 seater, but a big boot ;)

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TeeMyob said:
Subaru Tribeca ?
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Now that's a rare beast ;)

There are some very helpful folk on here but what has not been discussed in detail is the hitch and towball capacity of the various cars being mentioned. IMO there is no point having a good engine if the rear axle and tow unit cannot cope with a large hitch weight.

This is where you really need to establish what van is good for you since in your opening post you mentioned that you are looking at anything from a 1.8T van to a huge 2.8T unit. This really does effect your choice and your wallet too.

I have a pal who has a 2.7T caravan and a Disco-4 with a 150kg hitch capacity but he'll be the first to admit that he had the wrong height ball on his Disco and it subsequently felt very dangerous to drive as it was lifting at the front - and this is with a heavy Disco and not something quite light like a Subaru Tribeca (by comparison).

Good luck,

Andrew
 
Blue Knight said:
Now that's a rare beast ;)

There are some very helpful folk on here but what has not been discussed in detail is the hitch and towball capacity of the various cars being mentioned. IMO there is no point having a good engine if the rear axle and tow unit cannot cope with a large hitch weight.

This is where you really need to establish what van is good for you since in your opening post you mentioned that you are looking at anything from a 1.8T van to a huge 2.8T unit. This really does effect your choice and your wallet too.

I have a pal who has a 2.7T caravan and a Disco-4 with a 150kg hitch capacity but he'll be the first to admit that he had the wrong height ball on his Disco and it subsequently felt very dangerous to drive as it was lifting at the front - and this is with a heavy Disco and not something quite light like a Subaru Tribeca (by comparison).

Good luck,

Andrew
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I have not checked the Tow hitch capacity. or Tow weight of the Tribeca.

I know the UK Dealers were installing LPG kits pre-purchase in a bid to woo buyers. The MPG is very poor.

Subaru did a big facelift to the Tribeca late in its life. But it was LHD only.

Built in the US I understand and none in Japan!.
 
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TeeMyob said:
I have not checked the Tow hitch capacity. or Tow weight of the Tribeca.

I know the UK Dealers were installing LPG kits pre-purchase in a bid to woo buyers. The MPG is very poor.

Subaru did a big facelift to the Tribeca late in its life. But it was LHD only.

Built in the US I understand and none in Japan!.
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For the smaller caravan how about a Subaru Forester 4x4 imported from Japan. You can get a very low mileage Grade-4 example for very little dosh and if you get it from the South of Japan then it won't have any body rust because they don't use road salt in the south.

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frogijock said:
Yirr definitely no fae Govan ( Glesga) then Jock
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Blue Knight said:
I have a pal who has a 2.7T caravan and a Disco-4 with a 150kg hitch capacity but he'll be the first to admit that he had the wrong height ball on his Disco and it subsequently felt very dangerous to drive as it was lifting at the front - and this is with a heavy Disco and not something quite light like a Subaru Tribeca (by comparison).
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I used one of these hitch plates from Dixon Bate, on my Isuzu Bighorn. It covered any hitch height. (y) There is a shock version too.

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 

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