What jacks people carrying

[3crispies]

Just tried and need a new trolley or bottle jack, went to motorhome earlier and tried our 2 tonnes and doesn't go high enough. Forgot to measure jacking point to floor height ours lifts to about 350mm so need small light weight one with saddle extension. What does everyone use as a locator into oem holes too.

 

[Two on Tour]

poppycamper Levelling system nearer £6,000

And worth every penny.

 

[L' Hobo]

And worth every penny.

If only, I had £6000 and the spare payload I could afford to use!

 

[Two on Tour]

If only, I had £6000 and the spare payload I could afford to use!

A bit of a battle to get Yvette to open her purse, and as for the spare payload ............... there as never any spare beforehand.

 

[PP Bear]

I used to carry trolly jacks, but luckily I also carry quite a stash of wooden blocks and thank goodness I do. When you’re faced with this, in Northumberland, and you live in Kent, you’d be pretty stuck with bottle jacks and trolly jacks. My only solution here, was to drag the rear up on the ramps and get the issued scissor jack under it, then by combining the blocks of wood, building up the rear and then getting the jack onto the wood, you’d be lost. Don't even consider trying to use the useless gunk that the manufacturers want to fob you off with, just so that they don’t have to provide a spare, save weight and money, as it ain’t gona work.

Posted these before, but worth a repost, especially with the topic of jacks.

Also worth a look…talks about attempting to change your wheel, in the comfort of your home, as a trial. Incidentally, I’ve arranged my belly lockers, so that the kit I need is kerb side on the van.

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[Lenny HB]

A bit of a battle to get Yvette to open her purse, and as for the spare payload ............... there as never any spare beforehand.

I have a wife like that.

 

[GAVLAD]

8t bottle neck

 

[Verteuil Man]

None.
1 we have no spare and I am not physically capable of changing a wheel anymore.
2 we have hydraulic levelling which picks the motorhome up so a mobile tyre fitter can change the tyre.

 

[Badknee]

E&P leveling system, a jack in each corner.

#MeToo

 

[Aji]

5mt bottle jack.

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[autorouter]

Don't forget when picking up a corner to change a wheel you are normally only picking up 1/4 the total weight so a 3.5 ton sprinter just round it up to 4ton so a 2ton jack should be more than capable to change a wheel

That's not the whole story. If for example you lift one wheel far enough, the opposite corner stays on the floor but the other two wheels will be in the air. So the weight is divided between two wheels, each taking half the weight. What happens in reality is that it starts off taking 1/4 of the weight, and this gradually increase to 1/2 of the weight as the suspensions of the other two wheels relax. So a 2 ton jack might get quite near its limit. Especially if the weight was not evenly distributed.

 

[Tom Simpson]

Small block of wood to stand your existing jack on!

I call the RAC I’m too old to be changing wheels, get into the van and make a cup of tea and wait

 

[Chris RJ]

Our two ton only just lifts ours. Need a 3 tonne to be safe. Then stands.
I personally wouldn't trust a 2 ton jack. The one under the seat that came with the van is better.

You are only lifting one wheel and that no where near 2 or 3 tons so a one ton jack would be ok

 

[PeterCarole29]

I used to carry trolly jacks, but luckily I also carry quite a stash of wooden blocks and thank goodness I do. When you’re faced with this, in Northumberland, and you live in Kent, you’d be pretty stuck with bottle jacks and trolly jacks. My only solution here, was to drag the rear up on the ramps and get the issued scissor jack under it, then by combining the blocks of wood, building up the rear and then getting the jack onto the wood, you’d be lost. Don't even consider trying to use the useless gunk that the manufacturers want to fob you off with, just so that they don’t have to provide a spare, save weight and money, as it ain’t gona work.

Posted these before, but worth a repost, especially with the topic of jacks.

Also worth a look…talks about attempting to change your wheel, in the comfort of your home, as a trial. Incidentally, I’ve arranged my belly lockers, so that the kit I need is kerb side on the van.

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The level ramp what a good idea

 

[PP Bear]

The level ramp what a good idea

Was the only way I’d have gotten the small scissor jack in. Carrying bottle jacks and the like, just wouldn’t have fitted under it. Mind you, if that’s all I had I’d have dug a hole to start with and then worked my way up on the wooden blocks.

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[Colin McCourt]

Just tried and need a new trolley or bottle jack, went to motorhome earlier and tried our 2 tonnes and doesn't go high enough. Forgot to measure jacking point to floor height ours lifts to about 350mm so need small light weight one with saddle extension. What does everyone use as a locator into oem holes too.



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Don’t carry a jack. Just keep the breakdown number handy. At 4.2T I wouldn’t trust the supplied scissor jack and don’t want anything bigger as payload is always at a premium.

 

[Abacist]

5 Ton bottle jack, a pair of axle stands rated at 5 ton each and levelling ramps and the odd lump of wood!

 

[Squeakin]

As pappajohn has already alluded to, a block of wood, I have a 9” long piece of 8” x 4” railway sleeper, it also saves winding the bugger up so much

 

[68c]

We just carry the standard Peugeot scissor jack. It will just do the job, I have used it in anger. But the problem I find with them is the effort to raise the van changes depending on how low or high you start the jack. If it will only just fit in the gearing effect of the scissor makes it hard to turn the shaft, once the jack is around half way up it gets a little easier, despite the extra weight as the suspension unloads, but it also means it lifts less for each rotation of the shaft. So I use various blocks under the axke to try and keep the jack about half way up. Also gives me a little safety.

 

[VXman]

I've used the scissor that came with ours. It wasn't easy and didn't feel safe but it worked.

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[PP Bear]

We just carry the standard Peugeot scissor jack. It will just do the job, I have used it in anger. But the problem I find with them is the effort to raise the van changes depending on how low or high you start the jack. If it will only just fit in the gearing effect of the scissor makes it hard to turn the shaft, once the jack is around half way up it gets a little easier, despite the extra weight as the suspension unloads, but it also means it lifts less for each rotation of the shaft. So I use various blocks under the axke to try and keep the jack about half way up. Also gives me a little safety.

I used this method with the scissor jack and worked well, while utilising more blocks of wood. I’d have never lifted it with the standard tool supplied for the job.

 

[Northernraider]

I carry 3 bottle Jack's, one 2 tonne ( came with the van ) one 5 tonne and a 10 tonne . And a few blocks of wood

 

[Ditcha]

I just carry a spare 9v battery for my E&P remote

 

[bobnick]

I have absolutely no idea what, even if there are any jacks in our MH. Don't remember seeing any. If a jack is needed it's a phone call.

 

[Jaguarcat1]

Good qaulity Bottle/trolley jack circa &100.... E&P Leveling System.... Oh I don't know.. how about circa £2000
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More like£5000 for E&,P level system

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[Boaty]

E&P is £6k, so money cost doesn't equate.

Likewise, E&P space saving (all underslung), performance and convenience.

With the amount of forestry products being carried, multiple jacks and tools the E&P might even be lighter .

The other factor is dropping the spare and getting the flat stored away. Height and lifting capacity issues disappear with the E&P.

And I don't need a spare battery because my remote lives in it's docking station, ready to go.

Ignoring the above, you'd not find me playing in the dark with bits of wood, mud wind and rain to raise a 3.5t vehicle on any mechanical jack.

Me a .

 

[68c]

How about an air jack. Connects ti the exhaust pipe.

 

[Ditcha]

How about an air jack. Connects ti the exhaust pipe.

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Could double up as a water barrel as well saving payload

 

[Conal]

Whilst the hydraulic levelling system is fantastic, they come with a safety warning not to use them as the sole method of ”jacking” the vehicle up when changing tyres.

 

[L' Hobo]

How about an air jack. Connects ti the exhaust pipe.

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Now, if only someone would make a stronger air bed?

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[Ditcha]

Whilst the hydraulic levelling system is fantastic, they come with a safety warning not to use them as the sole method of ”jacking” the vehicle up when changing tyres.

That's the same with mechanical jacks and other lifting devices.