What are you paying to use a 5-van sites now?

[L' Hobo]

Anybody here who would love to visit but staying away purely because we have no EHU?

If I'm honest, the lack of EHU has caused me to find an alternative, nearby, site in the colder months if only to charge my batteries.

 

[Nanniemate]

Anybody here who would love to visit but staying away purely because we have no EHU?

Not me your site is great, and I have solar so summer at your place is great see you at Easter (if not before) my problem is if I'm working, I need more electrics, however stopping work is now the best option I did buy a cheapy inverter from lidl but that didn't work so looking at other options, but no EHU will not keep me away but would make life easier

 

[hja]

Anybody here who would love to visit but staying away purely because we have no EHU?

Hi quackers, as our van stands at present we wouldn’t stay for more than one night because of no ehu. But we are not likely to be in your area as far as we know anytime soon. Sorry.

 

[Pausim]

Anybody here who would love to visit but staying away purely because we have no EHU?

Not keeping me away, just not yet fitted in with my travel plans. Happy to camp without ehu.

 

[Quackers]

The advantage of being a large field is we can allow generators as long as it does not annoy any other guest.

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[rod_vw]

It's certainly time that we could buy electricity by the kWh on camp sites in the UK. It's my understanding that there are rules/laws that prevent the re-selling of electricity for domestic purposes here in the UK. No doubt there are complications with the VAT rate - domestic @ 5% commercial @ 20% - and of course the present cap on domestic prices but not commercial ones.
However I am sure that if there was the will amongst the two major clubs and the leisure media it could be made to happen.

But I suspect there is too large a financial gain in charging a flat rate to change things!

I've been on foreign sites & Aires where it has been possible to buy by the kWh and always been able to satisfy our power needs for 24hrs for a Euro or two at the most.

 

[Pausim]

It's my understanding that there are rules/laws that prevent the re-selling of electricity for domestic purposes here in the UK.

Selling on electricity is allowed but there are strict rules. You can only sell on at the price you have paid for it i.e. no profit. Basically the site owners need to cover the costs of the installations in the site fees because they can not charge extra for the electricity.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2005/10/11782-resaleupdateoct05_3.pdf

Edit.
Apologies that information may be out of date, I think the Government may have relaxed the controls (i.e. made it more complicated).

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2020/02/selling_energy_to_consumers_what_are_your_options_feb_2020_final_v0.23.pdf

 

[MisterB]

Currently on a site in Essex (Thorpe Le Spoken) BUT it's not limited re the number of units on site. We are paying £20 Inc EHU and it has toilets, showers, emptying points and water. There are 6 units currently on site

 

[loulabelle]

I get all the facilities i need (fresh water and drain disposal) for £5 a night , now charges £7 fri and sat. He's open all year and very few nights less than 3. One problem with this site is too picturesquew with trees shading my solar (Hampshire). One other at £8.Hereford
£10 a night in Pembroke

Hi there could I ask where the Hampshire one is please thanks

 

[the1andonly]

Ccc site in Denmead
Pit Hill Farm
Do not follow twat nav from Hambledon if on/in any thing bigger than a pushbike

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[loulabelle]

Thanks, twatnav

 

[ChrisL]

Ccc site in Denmead
Pit Hill Farm
Do not follow twat nav from Hambledon if on/in any thing bigger than a pushbike

I just checked that site out on Google Earth, I really wouldn't want to go there in anything larger then a PVC, although one reviewer said he has an 8.5 mtr motorhome, the roads leading to it are exceedingly narrow, I can't see how you could get to it in an A class without scratching the sides of your van on foliage and the entrance is fairly tight.

 

[Folkranger]

Potentially in the winter I would want electric if staying more than 2-3 days.

Having EHU and paying per unit has to be the fairest way. All these “I don’t need it, so sites shouldn’t have” are just being selfish to what others want or require.

I've been paying too long for facilities that I don't use. Maybe the other facilities should be pay as you use. Or have good cls without facilities for those that don't need them.

 

[minesapint]

and you call my comment, ridiculous!
Very few traditional VW Campers have a shower/loo, or solar, and I would not consider them the smallest when compared to a Romahome, Kangoo and other Micro-campers

Well said, most camper van occupants and many PVC users need on site facilities.

 

[Lenny HB]

Well said, most camper van occupants and many PVC users need on site facilities.

I don't see the problem when we used 5 van sites with a tent in the back of the car or a trailer tent we carried a toilet tent and small porta pottie.
If you need full facilities go to a site with them don't destroy 5 van sites by insisting they have full facilities.

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[the1andonly]

I just checked that site out on Google Earth, I really wouldn't want to go there in anything larger then a PVC, although one reviewer said he has an 8.5 mtr motorhome, the roads leading to it are exceedingly narrow, I can't see how you could get to it in an A class without scratching the sides of your van on foliage and the entrance is fairly tight.

There is one prefered route, but i dont have any problem with a 6m coachbuilt and Up toad. I did go up the wrong way first time (even though advised by the owner as to direction to use) and yes both sides were "caressed" by green stuff. Having said that i have seen 8m plus A class vans there.

I've been paying too long for facilities that I don't use. Maybe the other facilities should be pay as you use. Or have good cls without facilities for those that don't need them.

This type of site is perfect for my style of camping even with the Bongo and previously with tents and trailer tents we even had a shower for the 3 boys to be used in a toilet tent.
Pherhaps i'm a snob i dont want to camp where people need ehu, ive been generating my own since the 90s.
Let them eat cake, there are more cake shops than bread shops.

I don't see the problem when we used 5 van sites with a tent in the back of the car or a trailer tent we carried a toilet tent and small porta pottie.
If you need full facilities go to a site with them don't destroy 5 van sites by insisting they have full facilities.

Totally agree lenny

 

[BikerGraham]

I don't see the problem when we used 5 van sites with a tent in the back of the car or a trailer tent we carried a toilet tent and small porta pottie.
If you need full facilities go to a site with them don't destroy 5 van sites by insisting they have full facilities.

Totally agree with you Lenny.

In the past when I caravanned with my first wife. We used CL’s frequently. Perfect.

My current wife likes to have more facilities so even though the motorhome has everything and is perfect for me. We use sites for SWMBO. Keep life simple and happy.

 

[dulvil]

Just paid for the last 2 nights at a c.l. In Maryport
£9.00 per night with electric, it’ll have to go up a bit soon she said
10 minute walk to town centre.15 to the port

 

[davidroxburgh]

No - the lack of EHU is a plus for us now with lithium. A house move rather messed up travelling plans but you are definitely on the future list!

 

[Landy Andy]

I've been paying too long for facilities that I don't use. Maybe the other facilities should be pay as you use. Or have good cls without facilities for those that don't need them.

People who go to hotels don’t need cls at all so do away with them all. Stop being selfish.

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[Nanniemate]

People who go to hotels don’t need cls at all so do away with them all. Stop being selfish.

I need both work rest and play

 

[L' Hobo]

As a generalisation, I find it's mainly C & M/HClub 5-unit sites that have forced, payable EHU rather than C&CClub 5unit sites!

 

[Folkranger]

People who go to hotels don’t need cls at all so do away with them all. Stop being selfish.

Rather unusual answer, however nobody is being selfish, The motorhomers who like to feel self sufficient are simply stating the worsening situation for their requirements as prices are being pushed up by the installation of facilities that they don't need.

 

[Wildbill]

£17 a night at Jasmin camping
Bill

 

[Camper Sue]

We are quiet at the CL this October and only seeing non Funsters this month. Someone mentioned to me last week that they nearly didn't visit as they were only expecting a muddy field with long grass for the price. Always nice when guest ask to stay another night and tell us they will return.

The field currently looks a lot bigger, we have just cut our nature reserve at the far end, ready for new grass next year. Received quite a few protests from our resident field mice, stopped the mower many times waiting for them to move out of the way. That grass was above waist height, so it took some time to cut and collect and has left us with a mountain of grass. If anybody wants some grass, please bring a truck.

Thank you all for your input on this thread, we are not going to go into detail about our expenses but anybody who has visited us will fully understand our small price increase for next year. And for those who have never been to Woodside Field, we are a large open field surrounded by woodlands and hedges with taps, elsan point, grey sink and drive over emptying point. Not a white peg in sight, park where you like, but all this has to be maintained. Servicing costs on equipment has shot up along with black tank emptying costs, fuel, advertising, grass seed, insurance, the list goes on. And has anybody noticed what we provide at the Fun rallies?

We are closing for the winter in a few weeks and looking forward to welcoming a lot more Funsters next season. We already have several Fun rallies booked in for next year and more to be announced soon. If you are unable to make a rally date, please visit the CL if you are down this way. You know what they say, use it or lose it.

And on the subject of rallies, Motorhome fun is incredibly lucky to have so many unsung heroes organising rallies around the country for you benefit. Please support them and help out If you can.
Safe travels everybody.

Just got back from a wonderful long weekend at Woodside. How fabulous. A superb site with as many mod cons as I want. How can you put a price on beautiful field set in woodland and spectacular countryside. Walking on footpaths into fabulous surroundings. Thank goodness people like Quackers are happy to share their little bit of heaven with others.
We had a personal visit from the Quackers who were able to make us feel welcome as females on this very safe site. Nothing was too much trouble and included a delivery of fresh eggs! Millionaires can't get that in a posh hotel. Thank you Quackers and yes I see why the price has to go up to cover the time and effort spent keeping the site as it is.

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[Andacami]

... just wondering what you have been paying this year at the smaller 5-van sites if you visit them?

I spent last weekend back at Rutland Water, love it there, do the cycle route around the reservoir and Hambleton Penisular, two decent pubs, and Oakham has some good pubs and restaurants.

Usually, pitch up at Lyndon Top at £15 p/n 1 unit, 2 adults, no EHU no toilets but water, and Elsan. Closed now (normally open year-round I believed). Agree it's not a "small 5 pitch" site but offers the same amenities. The view and access are great so worth the money.

The next nearest place, The Paddock, offers the same and is affiliated with one of the Clubs I think. It was also closed too but looks to be about £25 p/n 1 unit, 2 adults, with EHU, water, and Elsan, no toilets. Again, agree it's not a "small 5 pitch" site but offers the same amenities as Lyndon but smaller, a little more ordered, but without the view.

We got on a CCC CS at The Horse and Jockey down the road in Manton; £25 p/n (£20 without EHU) 1 unit, 2 adults, with EHU, water, and very basic Elsan, no toilets, and no bins when were there. This is probably the nearest to a small site and at £25 was a punch in the face, but it seemed to be the only place open.

We have done the odd CS / CL this year and have paid around £15 inc EHU or £10 without either directly to the owner or into the honesty box and I think for me, that's about right.

 

[Pausim]

The next nearest place, The Paddock, offers the same and is affiliated with one of the Clubs I think. It was also closed too but looks to be about £25 p/n 1 unit, 2 adults, with EHU, water, and Elsan, no toilets. Again, agree it's not a "small 5 pitch" site but offers the same amenities as Lyndon but smaller, a little more ordered, but without the view.

There are also pitches without ehu for which we paid £17p.n. I like having a choice. Has a view of Rutland water and the landlord has built a nice viewing platform at the end of the field. RSPB nearby where we watched Ospreys tending their nest.

 

[busbuddy]

You cant please everyone

Some want the old style cl/cs at £5 a night for a grass pitch with water and toilet emptying
Some want hardstanding, ehu and an underfloor heated toilet block with radio 2 piped throughout
Some want a layby

I do all 3 so no ehu wouldnt be a problem

 

[Pausim]

I am guessing the electricity supplied to EHU s is often charged to the landlord at commercial rather than domestic rates. Historically business electricity has usually been cheaper than domestic electricity. When we discuss site fees and EHU s perhaps we should be watching the commercial charges rather than domestic ones.

Edit. I have just noticed there may be a different VAT rate for business electricity of 20%, that would make a difference.