Wet belt change interval.

[Aly1]

I would be interested in knowing where/who that is if it is east of you and thus in my direction. I am not expecting such big bills on my Duratorq but it will need an MOT and a service come next March. Currently I plan to use Motorsave in Swinton who are Ford Agents.

I’m sorry but it’s actually west of me in Little Hoole so a long way for you.

 

[Sandancers]

I have heard of a Ford trained mechanic around Tyneside who has set himself up to be a mobile mechanic specifically to do wet belt changes. Apparently it takes him 5 to 6 hours to do the job, but he make a canny living out of it.

 

[Silver-Fox]

So am I missing something here.

The manufacturer makes a crap decision to fit a wet cam belt.

The customer can keep paying through the nose to keep having them changed or pay extra and pay for a conversion kit.

Talk about taking the p**s out of customers.

Personally any vehicle I was looking to buy I’d be asking wet belt?
If yes bye bye.

For as long as customers accept being treated like a plonker nothing will change

 

[CAB96]

So am I missing something here.

The manufacturer makes a crap decision to fit a wet cam belt.

The customer can keep paying through the nose to keep having them changed or pay extra and pay for a conversion kit.

Talk about taking the p**s out of customers.

Personally any vehicle I was looking to buy I’d be asking wet belt?
If yes bye bye.

For as long as customers accept being treated like a plonker nothing will change

Ford Transit Custom was apparently the best selling vehicle in Britain last year, I seem to recall.

Not just best selling van, but vehicle.

There's a lot of chickens going to be coming home to roost over the next few years.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Ford Transit Custom was apparently the best selling vehicle in Britain last year, I seem to recall.

Not just best selling van, but vehicle.

There's a lot of chickens going to be coming home to roost over the next few years.

That would mean buyers are either accepting inferior vehicles or not showing due diligence.

Looks like some have more money than sense

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[neilydun]

That would mean buyers are either accepting inferior vehicles or not showing due diligence.

Looks like some have more money than sense

Im not sure if that is really the case.
I have found most Diesel Euro 6 compliant vehicles are rubbish
I run 6 small commercials, 5 of them are compliant. All 5 are all trash.
Peugeot, Vauxhall, Citroen, Vw and they all have adblue/emission issues.
So, I am not sure if Ford would be any better/worse.
I am considering one, as the cab is far superior to any other comparable vehicle. If they all are rubbish, might as well be comfortable in it when it breaks.
I would have gone for electric, but the range would not work for us.
There is an option on a PHEV, which I would also possibly consider. I believe the Petrol is wet belt too.

 

[jockaneezer]

We have an Amazon warehouse a few miles up the road from us, whenever we're headed out that way, we see convoys of 20 to 30 transit vans heading out from there. I'm guessing they'll mostly be leased and will be sold on before they need any wet belt changes ?a
ps, don't think I've seen one that hasn't got a dent or gouge somewhere on them ?

 

[Guigsy]

We have an Amazon warehouse a few miles up the road from us, whenever we're headed out that way, we see convoys of 20 to 30 transit vans heading out from there. I'm guessing they'll mostly be leased and will be sold on before they need any wet belt changes ?a
ps, don't think I've seen one that hasn't got a dent or gouge somewhere on them ?

The Amazon vans around us are a mix of Mercedes and Ford. But they're all electric.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Im not sure if that is really the case.
I have found most Diesel Euro 6 compliant vehicles are rubbish
I run 6 small commercials, 5 of them are compliant. All 5 are all trash.

Not all run wet belt though

Pug, Cit and Fiat are all effectively the same vehicle.
Has anyone noticed the Vaux Movan, it’s another Fiat

 

[Silver-Fox]

We have an Amazon warehouse a few miles up the road from us, whenever we're headed out that way, we see convoys of 20 to 30 transit vans heading out from there. I'm guessing they'll mostly be leased

All leased as do BT, Water boards, Gas and Electric.

Mostly self serviced as well I’m told.

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[PlacidoD]

" ... Pug, Cit and Fiat are all effectively the same vehicle.
Has anyone noticed the Vaux Movan, it’s another Fiat"

So they will all suffer from periodic limp mode then!

 

[Silver-Fox]

" ... Pug, Cit and Fiat are all effectively the same vehicle.
Has anyone noticed the Vaux Movan, it’s another Fiat"

So they will all suffer from periodic limp mode then!

Probably.

What caused that, I forget.

 

[raysalaugh]

" ... Pug, Cit and Fiat are all effectively the same vehicle.
Has anyone noticed the Vaux Movan, it’s another Fiat"

So they will all suffer from periodic limp mode then!

Apparently if you use adblu i.e viagra it cures it.

 

[gus-lopez]

Not all run wet belt though

Pug, Cit and Fiat are all effectively the same vehicle.
Has anyone noticed the Vaux Movan, it’s another Fiat

& mercedes small vans are renaults As is the Vito engine ,I believe?

 

[Aly1]

There is a FB group for Transit Mk8 owners. On there you can find lots of recommendations for Transit specialist garages doing wetbelt changes for less than £900. Low mileage Motorhomes with annual oil changes (correct oil) don’t seem to suffer with the wet belt problems that higher mileage vehicles do. I asked the garage to keep my old wet belt for me to look at and as said it was like “new”. The main problem for low useage motorhome users seems to be fuel injector failures.

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[Guigsy]

There is a FB group for Transit Mk8 owners. On there you can find lots of recommendations for Transit specialist garages doing wetbelt changes for less than £900. Low mileage Motorhomes with annual oil changes (correct oil) don’t seem to suffer with the wet belt problems that higher mileage vehicles do. I asked the garage to keep my old wet belt for me to look at and as said it was like “new”. The main problem for low useage motorhome users seems to be fuel injector failures.

I wonder if its entirely due to wear? Or because it's more likely that a thrashed work van Tranny had the wrong oil?

 

[neilydun]

I wonder if its entirely due to wear? Or because it's more likely that a thrashed work van Tranny had the wrong oil?

My understanding, is that if the oil is not changed on time (or wrong type of oil used), this causes the belt to wear early.
The belt then shreds, and causes the pick up pipe to block, or the belt can snap.
I know a guy who had an engine fail at 150,000 but he never changed the oil on time. A new engine was around 9k
I also know a guy on over 300,000 who has had no problems, with regular servicing.
I normally do an oil and filter every 10k, so I would like to think that would be ok

 

[ontheroadagain]

I have never heard of a wet belt failing on a Ford motorhome. I suspect with motorhomes generally doing a low annual milage and perhaps being serviced more often it is less of a problem.
The typical cost to replace it appears to be about £1500 at a Ford service centre. Yes, this is very expensive, but a Fiat Professional garage will charge £900 the change the belt on a Ducato.