Water filling woes

[Lenny HB]

Not so easy if it’s a push button tap, unless you’ve got really long arm.

You mean you don't carry re-leaseable cable ties for that event.
You are letting the Hymerites down.

 

[Landy Andy]

When you go to an aire, and you put a euro, or jeton in for 100 litres of water. How quick do you lot with watering cans then move?
Are you also able to “man” the tap to make sure another person doesn‘t pull up and connect his hose and fill his van, whist you are absent?

 

[steve 6644]

I have a 100 litre watering can, so no problem

 

[Landy Andy]

And a big arm?

 

[peterc10]

The Heos ones they sell two types one vented one unvented.
You just need to drill a hole for an air vent in yours.

Used to, but not anymore Lenny. Now they sell just the one that works with both. Comes with two alternative sealing washers you fit depending upon whether you have vented or unvented filler.

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[Jo662]

Also I have a 80mm elbow that fits in the filler for when I use a can.
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That's the way I always fill up, with the 90° elbow and a watering can. So much easier and quicker

 

[tonyidle]

I have a 100 litre watering can, so no problem

My 220 litre tank slides onto my fork-lift. Straight to tap fill, replace. No faffing with watering cans or hoses.

 

[Northernraider]

I get the dogs to walk back and forth filling it with their bowls .....kills 2 birds with one stone

 

[GWAYGWAY]

My biggest problem is finding water anywhere, if not a site you are stuffed, I tried a filling station at 50p aa session on the water outlet and it dribbles enough for a washer bottle the cuts off and took a long time.
finding a supply is difficult all over. So I now set out from home full.

 

[OldWomble]

Be very careful if you use the HEOSolution or anything similar. The air vent hole is not very big and if you are filling from a high pressure supply like many French/German ones, the inrush of water is much greater than the outflow of air. The pressure buildup is more than enough to blow pipes and fittings apart in you ‘van. Don’t rely on air vent pipes either. Much better to just use a hose so if you overfill it’s just comes straight out.

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[Northernraider]

My biggest problem is finding water anywhere, if not a site you are stuffed, I tried a filling station at 50p aa session on the water outlet and it dribbles enough for a washer bottle the cuts off and took a long time.
finding a supply is difficult all over. So I now set out from home full.

Every good FLT has a set of these

 

[Jonny1953]

But takes for flippin ever

I use a watering can too, 10 litre can and two fills per day, also a small amount of exercise walking to the tap

 

[XxAnthxX]

Be very careful if you use the HEOSolution or anything similar. The air vent hole is not very big and if you are filling from a high pressure supply like many French/German ones, the inrush of water is much greater than the outflow of air. The pressure buildup is more than enough to blow pipes and fittings apart in you ‘van. Don’t rely on air vent pipes either. Much better to just use a hose so if you overfill it’s just comes straight out.

The Heos filler cap doesn't have a vent hole, you remove the full face washer if you want it to vent through the filler neck as you fill, as shown in the images on the previously posted advert and in the instructions supplied with them.

Take a look at the images from the advert and you see which piece to remove for vented or unvented tanks....no hole drilling.

HEOSolution 5251 Water Connector with Gardena, Blue Amazon product ASIN B00NXYFC30

As I said I have the instructions if you need them.

 

[Jaws]

I use a watering can, no problems at all. Fits all taps and valves and goes any distance.

There speaks a man who has never been to Shell Island LOL !!

Where we ( the Funsters ) normally plot up, the tap is a good 150 yards away and involves a bit of a hill
We have the optional large water tank on our Chieftain.. Lord knows how big it is but it will take 4 x 40 litre barrels no problem !
Even with a hose it takes at least 10+ minutes to fill the water tank and at the rate SHE uses water I reckon it would be a Forth Bridge job to keep it topped off with a watering can !

Tried a Helos but gave up and just use a long pipe stuffed in the hole

 

[Ian Bosman]

I have a 100 litre watering can, so no problem

At 100 kilos that is some lift

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[XxAnthxX]

At 100 kilos that is some lift

And you haven’t seen how much water er indoors uses....anyway keeps me busy.

 

[steve 6644]

Yep, she does struggle sometimes

Actualy we bought a pack of these...
Amazon product ASIN B071GZ85PPAlong with a short and a long expanding hose and so far I have used those blue things more than anything else along with the elbow. The weight and space saving over a normal hose and the space taken by a watering can, is brilliant. One of the best bits of kit I have.

 

[Ian Bosman]

There speaks a man who has never been to Shell Island LOL !!

Where we ( the Funsters ) normally plot up, the tap is a good 150 yards away and involves a bit of a hill
We have the optional large water tank on our Chieftain.. Lord knows how big it is but it will take 4 x 40 litre barrels no problem !
Even with a hose it takes at least 10+ minutes to fill the water tank and at the rate SHE uses water I reckon it would be a Forth Bridge job to keep it topped off with a watering can !

Tried a Helos but gave up and just use a long pipe stuffed in the hole

Took me a while to figure out the Helios connector but not having got it sorted it works a treat on German sites at least.

 

[Barbie and Ken]

We use a aqua roll and sub pump no carrying phone

 

[Jaws]

Took me a while to figure out the Helios connector but not having got it sorted it works a treat on German sites at least.

Mine works ok(ish) but its just as easy to poke a pipe down the hole.. Mind you, I bought it off a Funster and I am pretty sure there is a bit missing LOL !!

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[Minxy]

Whats wrong with just holding the hose in the tank until its full 5 minutes or so works for me. No chance of overflow or flooding you out.

Only trouble with that is the hose won't stay in the filer neck once you turn the water on so if you are not within arms reach of the filler end and the tap you're likely to get a shower as you frantically try to grab the 'snake' it as it 'hisses' around spraying you with water.

Not so easy if it’s a push button tap, unless you’ve got really long arm.

You mean you don't carry re-leaseable cable ties for that event.
You are letting the Hymerites down.

I have a double sided hook/loop strap, works a treat.

When you go to an aire, and you put a euro, or jeton in for 100 litres of water. How quick do you lot with watering cans then move?
Are you also able to “man” the tap to make sure another person doesn‘t pull up and connect his hose and fill his van, whist you are absent?

Trouble is that some aren't based on volume but rather on time so if you are taking a while to do it you might only get 20 litres, same reason we don't like the 'narrow' hoses which restrict the flow thus take longer to fill the tank up.

Be very careful if you use the HEOSolution or anything similar. The air vent hole is not very big and if you are filling from a high pressure supply like many French/German ones, the inrush of water is much greater than the outflow of air. The pressure buildup is more than enough to blow pipes and fittings apart in you ‘van. Don’t rely on air vent pipes either. Much better to just use a hose so if you overfill it’s just comes straight out.

Or come out the fresh water tank screw cap as we had (hadn't been fitted properly by the factory).

 

[Lenny HB]

Only trouble with that is the hose won't stay in the filer neck once you turn the water on so if you are not within arms reach of the filler end and the tap you're likely to get a shower as you frantically try to grab the 'snake' it as it 'hisses' around spraying you with water.

I just put my hose in the pipe it has a hose fitting on the end, I push in about a foot never comes out. In fact it can be a pain to get out if the connector gets caught on the ribbed pipe.

 

[Minxy]

I just put my hose in the pipe it has a hose fitting on the end, I push in about a foot never comes out. In fact it can be a pain to get out if the connector gets caught on the ribbed pipe.

IMV that's not ideal Lenny as at least one funster 'lost' the end down the inlet pipe when it came off their hose and I believe was a pig to retrieve.

 

[Northernraider]

I just put my hose in the pipe it has a hose fitting on the end, I push in about a foot never comes out. In fact it can be a pain to get out if the connector gets caught on the ribbed pipe.

I do the same thing and the hose never falls out .....its a nice tight fit and there's no way the connector would fall off as the hose has been shrunk on to it ...would need cut off.


At £24 for one of those caps I'd expect it to be filling the van for me

 

[Minxy]

At £24 for one of those caps I'd expect it to be filling the van for me

Strewth ... they've gone up a bit then ... I wouldn't pay that for one!

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[XxAnthxX]

For me it’s all about options.....

I have a ‘new’ style Heos Universal, i have a colapz bucket/watering can and I have a 12v submersible pump with hose.

Depending on location and requirement.

I have never had any issues with the Heos, but I believe a lot of the criticism is from people who maybe only have experience of previous versions or they listen to people who have not read the instructions about the vent washer and fit It incorrectly.

The collapz bucket/watering can is also great....But it’s a full tenner more than the Heos filler cap

The pump works great from the likes of an Aquaroll......which can usually be borrowed from a friendly tugger.

 

[Jaws]

The pump works great from the likes of an Aquaroll......which can usually be borrowed from a friendly tugger.

If our hose aint long enough that is what I use

 

[Bigbass]

I use a 15litre folding water container from amazon with a short length of hose attached via a universal rubber tap connector, folds down to flat package so easily stored and saves space, cost £12. Whale inlet on elddis cv60.

 

[possar]

just stick the hose in the hole and let it fill up, as soon as the water comes out take the hose out

 

[pappajohn]

That's not your only problem. If the breather is blocked by the cap it will cause a vacuum in the tank when the pump is running either restricting flow or sucking the tank sides in.
Take off the green breather and extend it down and out the bottom of the van.

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