V5 registration document

[joka250]

Doubt much doing there mate . I have a brand new bike sitting in the garage right this minute , only got 5 mile on the clock , in fact it's so new , i haven't ridden it , to bloody cold . Yet the log book list's me as the second owner , the reason . Well it seem's the good ole eu strike's again , moved the goal post's , so they did . As of christmas last year , i'm unsure of the exact date , the law was changed in that all new vehicle's must now be pre- registered by the dealer . This in effect mean's that any new vehicle is effectively now , a second hand vehicle . Warranty's and mot requirement's are unaffected .

What you say regarding pre registered vehicles I find interesting as I can find no reference to this, I have asked a main dealer, Fiat, who tried to sell me a pre registered car but appeared not to be aware of any change in the law. Are you sure, I can well believe EU law going that way.

 

[pappajohn]

all new vehicle's must now be pre- registered by the dealer .

I thnk what that means is they can't sell a NEW vehicle without registering it first....to the new owner, not themselves.
In other words, you can't buy a new bike still in it's crate as supplied by the importer.

 

[pappajohn]

Yes it's taxed until December. Why they taxed it god knows. Will be in their name as the bike is preregistered. I'll be the 2nd owner.

I would reject it as used but advertised new

Also

You can't insure a vehicle NOT registered to you so if you're using it you're using it uninsured.

 

[airwave]

I thnk what that means is they can't sell a NEW vehicle without registering it first....to the new owner, not themselves.
In other words, you can't buy a new bike still in it's crate as supplied by the importer.

Urrrrrr well , no Pop's , that's not how it was explained to me mate . I was told it was aimed at the dealership's , they are not allowed to keep an unregistered vehicle on their premises , ie show room , which i kinda guess mean's any stock piled vehicle's as well . The result is the dealer would have to register the vehicle , to be able to keep and sell it , making the vehicle in effect second hand .
Now i know what your thinking , i've got that wrong , well my motorbike was a stock piled machine . It was shipped from stafford , to milton keynes where i picked it up a month ago . It's on a 67 plate , and list's the stafford dealer as a previous owner , don't actually bother me that much . What was more important was the price , less than a grand on the road with a rack and twin mirror's , i know it's new and that good enough for me . The 2018 model's , only have a 3 speed box , and retail at over a grand , plus on the road charge's . I wanted a 4 speed box , and have one of the last , registration plate gonna get changed anyway .

 

[pappajohn]

Urrrrrr well , no Pop's , that's not how it was explained to me mate . I was told it was aimed at the dealership's , they are not allowed to keep an unregistered vehicle on their premises , ie show room , which i kinda guess mean's any stock piled vehicle's as well . The result is the dealer would have to register the vehicle , to be able to keep and sell it , making the vehicle in effect second hand .
Now i know what your thinking , i've got that wrong , well my motorbike was a stock piled machine . It was shipped from stafford , to milton keynes where i picked it up a month ago . It's on a 67 plate , and list's the stafford dealer as a previous owner , don't actually bother me that much . What was more important was the price , less than a grand on the road with a rack and twin mirror's , i know it's new and that good enough for me . The 2018 model's , only have a 3 speed box , and retail at over a grand , plus on the road charge's . I wanted a 4 speed box , and have one of the last , registration plate gonna get changed anyway .

The following quote was posted as a reply to me asking if the dealer had pre registered their new van in the dealers name....

@pappajohn V5 says:

Previous keepers “none” so we are good. And apparently not been collected from the Factory yet so need to get it tomorrow as running out of time.

@Ashypants

Ours is only 3500kg so not as cheap as one over 3500kg but still cheaper than one taxed by emissions output from what I understand

What has been posted about dealers having to register in their company name before selling to the public is rubbish.....

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[airwave]

What has been posted about dealers having to register in their company name before selling to the public is rubbish.....

Okay , well i've found where my information fall's flat , and it's due to the fact , i was not given the full information in the first place , so i concede the point .

I was wrong .

However there are circumstance's where a dealer will pre-register a vehicle , and as such does indeed make it a second hand vehicle . Now i'll be honest here , yes i was duped , however as i wanted this particular type of machine , it's brand new , and i got it for a good price , i'm still perfectly happy . In fact i'm more than happy , as it actually mean's , i didn't suffer the depreciation many people suffer with a new vehicle by driving it outta the showroom , i didn't pay full price in the first place , yet still have full warranty , and mot privileges . The fact remain's , the vehicle is new , and as i purchased the machine for my use , and not what it's gonna be worth in a few year's , it has very little , to no effect on me , personally .
I make no apology for the fact of not being a number plate chaser , it's gonna be changed shortly anyway , along with a few other bit's , when it's customised .

As for the new information i've gleaned , well i'm afraid i've decided to refrain from sharing , just in case i've still not got the full story .

 

[Jaws]

Well I bought the bike mid December and STILL haven't received the Registration Document. I've been ringing the dealership every week or so, a salesman has left and nobody knows what's happened to it. I don't even know if the bike is in my name.

I don't want to fill in a v62 as a £25 charge is incurred if you don't have the new keepers slip. I know it's not a huge amount but Why should I? It's their responsibility to let dvla know they've sold the bike. (pre registered by the way, I'm the second owner)

So what can I do? Anybody have any ideas? I've emailed the DVLA but I don't expect any useful outcome of that. I'll probably get some kind of platitude the computer spits out.

Thanks for reading

I bought the new Triumph in October.. and reading this I realised I had not got the V5 either !!!