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Wales isnt banning people from England they are banning people from high risk areas
According to todays Daily Telegraph yesterday Germany recorded its highest daily rise in infections since the start of the pandemic with 6,638 cases . Stay safe.
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If you comply with the social distancing rules and guidance, what difference is there being at home or being elsewhere? When I'm at home I still go out shopping, go out to eat, go for a walk, speak to other people etc.
Travelling in my motorhome, isolated from others, I'm as isolated as being in my home.
Travelling in my motorhome, isolated from others, I'm as isolated as being in my home.
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But the op was relating to travel in the UK, and as you have just pointed out in your above post, travel in the UK is not safe, and it would appear,neither is America.
But each to their own.
For the record, I am staying put!
Thanks
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I didn't say travel in the uk wasn't safe ...done properly its perfectly safe ...or as safe as it can be in the uk
Getting out the uk is even better
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I give up. I’m out, as the Dragons say.
Good luck with your travels.
Are you going to travel through “locked down” areas. I would think that you have to in order to complete your journey.
I understand that you are not intending to get out of the motorhome while en route. Just for information I sought advice on taking our motorhome from Vale of Glamorgan to Newport to have a problem with the Peugeot part fixed. I was aware that I would have to leave my county, travel through Cardiff, (another lockdown area), and then into Newport, another locked area. I was intending to go straight there and return, without any further mixing with people. I was told that it was not an essential journey so I could be fined just for passing through, according to the legislation.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have asked.
Your decision.
Just received a CMC email about using their sites. They are not accepting people from Tier 3 addresses and they expect you to have the NHS App and scan yourself in.
Then you are lucky.
In Wales it is almost impossible to do those things, although I agree with your summation. The rules at present are almost impossible to understand.
I am a supporter of the Government and think that they are doing a reasonable job, under the circumstances.
However, they are failing to explain the “science” that they claim to be following.
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If you become sick whilst away in a motorhome, what should you do?
If you were my neighbour, especially if we were living in a low risk area, I wouldn't welcome you home.
If you were my neighbour, especially if we were living in a low risk area, I wouldn't welcome you home.
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The problem with "the science" is that the science doesn't provide answers to complex issues like balancing economic prosperity (or disaster) in the future against predicted rises in cases, hospital admissions and deaths in the next few weeks or months. In my view, "the science" was initially a useful argument on which politicians could justify unpopular restrictions. As reality has dawned about the wider effects that restrictions create, the politicians are having to move away from relying on "the science". Andy Burnham's resistance to further restrictions in Manchester being a prime example - despite "the science".
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What amazes me about this is ........just how much people seem to know about whether we should or should not do something?
We/ I / You / all of us......really don't have a clue? Do we? What is it that says we should or should not do something when those who are in charge of us .......cannot come up with a suitable answer to make things right? Does anyone really understand the logic currently being used? Shut the country down and all will be well .........Or............Let it ride and be done with it all!
Personally..........Life IS too Short. Use common sense and take care with what you do.
Don't condemn any one for doing something....It's better than doing nothing at all surely?
Kev
We/ I / You / all of us......really don't have a clue? Do we? What is it that says we should or should not do something when those who are in charge of us .......cannot come up with a suitable answer to make things right? Does anyone really understand the logic currently being used? Shut the country down and all will be well .........Or............Let it ride and be done with it all!
Personally..........Life IS too Short. Use common sense and take care with what you do.
Don't condemn any one for doing something....It's better than doing nothing at all surely?
Kev
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when the rules say you should not enter or leave a tier 3 red zone, I don't understand the question
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ManTheVan
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Apologies. It was never my intention to cause offence, but I spend a great deal of my working life trying to ensure that information is as accessible as possible. Use of punctuation does make a big difference in helping others make sense of what a writer is attempting to convey; this was all I was meaning to express. Thank you for pointing out my mistake.Thought it was in the rules you do not pick up on people's spelling or punctuation on the forum
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I don't need to be a virologist or an epidemiologist to realise that if I contract Covid-19 I may not know that I have it for up to two weeks. If I socially isolate, using local facilities and shops as needed, then in the event that I WAS a carrier and was spreading the virus, the spread (from myself) should be (if others are following the same precautions) isolated to my local area, which the local and state governments can allocate resources to accordingly.What amazes me about this is ........just how much people seem to know about whether we should or should not do something?
We/ I / You / all of us......really don't have a clue? Do we? What is it that says we should or should not do something when those who are in charge of us .......cannot come up with a suitable answer to make things right? Does anyone really understand the logic currently being used? Shut the country down and all will be well .........Or............Let it ride and be done with it all!
Personally..........Life IS too Short. Use common sense and take care with what you do.
Don't condemn any one for doing something....It's better than doing nothing at all surely?
Kev
This is vastly different to not realising I am a carrier, going off in my van and only using the "local" facilities in multiple towns and possibly multiple countries, setting off a possible exponential rise in subsequent cases throughout my travels.
I absolutely agree with you that life IS short, the thing we all need to remember is that so are everyone else's. You can take whatever risks you desire with your own life, but you certainly don't have the right to make anyone else share that risk.
Will I still be using my van? Yes, I will. I will be using it to explore my local area. I will take with me enough food, water and fuel that I don't need to put anyone else at risk by coming into needless contact with them. The places I like, I will note to go back to at such time as it is safe to do so to spend my money there to support the local economy. If restrictions are such that I can do that when I am there, then of course I will do so at the time.
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I too had that email, but the "powers that be" designed the NHS app with disregard for people with older smartphones and mine won't take it. I am not spending ££££££s to upgrade my phone just to be able to install an app that appears not to work properly anyway!
It might be a bit of a rule break but I think a plea on behalf of those who are disadvantaged by reading difficulties is not quite the same sin as someone just being picky about other people’s grammar.
I think you will find from where I understand you live it is designated as essential travel only.
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Went to France (2 sites) in September. Both sites very COVID aware and at Saumur (first site) the gendarmes were ticking people off for not wearing face-masks in the street! Yes we had to quarantine on return but an excellent holiday. The virus is no more evil in France than UK and if you’re sensible with distancing and hygiene then there’s no more risk than staying at home. We have a trip planned for early December to Bristol Baltic Wharf fingers crossed. If you genuinely don’t feel safe then stay put for the next year or so until they get a vaccine.
Vaccines work best if everyone takes them because nothing in life is 100%. If we want to get back on the road without restrictions we need to do something about the misinformation being spread by the anti-vaccers .
PrettyandFluffy
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I'm repeating what I said in a similar thread: the more people choose to bend the rules, the longer this pandemic will continue.
Perhaps a cursory glance at Sweden and their non-use of face-masks, no social distancing and no lockdown rules, everyone carrying on as normal, and COVID infections and deaths no worse than ours might raise some questions regarding the efficacy of lockdown. The pattern of their infections is remarkably similar to ours. In 1968-69 there were 80,000 deaths from Hong Kong flu yet no lockdown measures put in place, economy still booming. All I’m saying is there is a hell of a lot of hysteria and over-hype out there and NO empirical evidence even surrounding our own death rates and our own perception of risk.
The Swedes stopped short of a total lockdown but they do have some serious rules and I believe they follow them. They also have more space, fewer people and not many large conurbations.
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glenn2926
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What’s this red zone? Is it something new or something made up? We, as far as I am aware have tier one, two, and three. None of this red zone stuff.
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I think you’re banging your head against the wall. To save your sanity, I think you should do as I do. If the punctuation or grammar are that bad e.g. of instead of have then I just either put the thread on ignore or just don’t read it.
We Live in Lancashire, We had a weekend trip to Dumfries planned for Friday to Monday, but on the Friday the tier3 announcement was made for lancs, coming into effect on the Friday midnight. Technically we could have shot up the M6 on the Friday breaking no rules, but we though it was not right to do so, so we didn’t go.
So, we thought ok we‘ll stay in lancs, but read the tier3 rules, which states “avoid unnecessary travel ? So we didn’t go & motorhome now back in storage.
But went for a drive in car yesterday, to take dog for a good walk in the hills & there were many motorhomes travelling on the roads in lancs + many of the sites near full !
So question, how likely is it police will stop motorhomes in tier3 areas & fine them for doing unnecessary travel ?
So, we thought ok we‘ll stay in lancs, but read the tier3 rules, which states “avoid unnecessary travel ? So we didn’t go & motorhome now back in storage.
But went for a drive in car yesterday, to take dog for a good walk in the hills & there were many motorhomes travelling on the roads in lancs + many of the sites near full !
So question, how likely is it police will stop motorhomes in tier3 areas & fine them for doing unnecessary travel ?
I was just pointing out that when ManTheVan got taken to task for suggesting punctuation would help dyslexics, he was doing so for the benefit of others and not because he was being picky himself. I can cope, many legal documents omit punctuation but it doesn’t make them easy reading.
For me it's not a point about getting caught more about doing the right thing. Following the guidance.
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