Urgent Help Needed Regarding Tyres in France

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Hi gang! We are near Orleans in France and my tyrepal registered 59 degrees C on a rear tyre. Pressure about 0.5 bar higher than the other rear tyre. We stopped and are parked in an aire. The tyre seems to have ballooned, it’s still round but seems to be a bigger diameter than the others almost egg shaped in cross section. I think it’s delaminated. I have a spare, but don’t think I have a jack (it’s 3am not going to look right now). I can’t get Google to search for and find a tyre depot that will be open near me in the morning, do any of you have French tyre depot experience or suggestions bearing in mind its Sunday morning!!
TIA!
Russ
 
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If you have other campers on the aire, most are happy to help, so try them to see if anyone has a jack so you can change to your spare. Thank your lucky stars you are parked up safely. Hope it all gets sorted out ok
 
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RustyRuss said:
We stopped and are parked in an aire.
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Is there no one there you could borrow one to put your spare on?
If only French then here you go:
Avez vous un démonte pneu s'il vous plait ? J'ai un problème avec un pneu.
 
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yodeli said:
Is there no one there you could borrow one to put your spare on?
If only French then here you go:
Avez vous un démonte pneu s'il vous plait ? J'ai un problème avec un pneu.
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Sorry to correct you but a jack is un cric, un demonte pneu is a tyre iron for removing the tyre from the wheel

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yodeli said:
Is there no one there you could borrow one to put your spare on?
If only French then here you go:
Avez vous un démonte pneu s'il vous plait ? J'ai un problème avec un pneu.
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OOPS ... made a mistake lol.... tired me!
Avez vous un cric!! Cric is the right word , the other one is to take the tyre off the wheel! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Just point to tyre and do a jacking meme! :LOL: Have had to do similar this side of Mont Blanc when I had loose nuts (on the wheel) whilst wagon driving. Seriously better to ask anyone or be stuck!
 
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I am just hoping that Rusty has breakdown cover, as he seems to have dismissed that suggestion, as no way would I be changing a wheel with the stupid Fiat Scissor jack, that is supplied with the van, even on a flat dry smooth carpet!
Wish him all the best on Monday.
LES
 
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Garry - June said:
At 5 yrs old every single Michelin Agilis on my tag axle was cracking and one had a serious bulge on the inside wall.. never put them anywhere near my van again..
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The Michelin brand was always a respected make but now its rubbish. I've had Mitchelin tyres for over 50 years but never again. I can't believe funsters are still specifying them after all the problems posted on here.

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TinaL said:
I am just hoping that Rusty has breakdown cover, as he seems to have dismissed that suggestion, as no way would I be changing a wheel with the stupid Fiat Scissor jack, that is supplied with the van, even on a flat dry smooth carpet!
Wish him all the best on Monday.
LES
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I’ve used the Fiat jack quite a few times with no problem.
 
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Just a tip from having spent time driving in really hot countries. Increase your normal [UK ambient cold] pressures by 10psi at least. This will decrease the amount of wall and tread flexing, keep the tyre temperature down, help prevent tyre damage and delamination.
 
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Dorset Diver said:
Just a tip from having spent time driving in really hot countries. Increase your normal [UK ambient cold] pressures by 10psi at least. This will decrease the amount of wall and tread flexing, keep the tyre temperature down, help prevent tyre damage and delamination.
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According to the tyrepal they seem to increase themseves by almost that anyway when I drove from winter in europe to Morocco
 
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jongood said:
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According to the tyrepal they seem to increase themseves by almost that anyway when I drove from winter in europe to Morocco
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That's the problem when the OAT is high. Wall and tread flexing creates heat which degrades the tyre. Increasing the cold tyre pressure reduces the flexing effect and keeps the rise in temperature to a more manageable level.

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Are thier not mobile fitters in France who will change it on site?

Although it will cost you a premium I doubt you couldn't get a mobile fitter to change a premium tyre within half a day here in the UK?
 
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tkk said:
Likewise, on 4t plus Moho. Flat surface admittedly
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I had complete opposite. First time i jacked mine up it failed.Threads stripped on Jack.Luckily I had put axle stand under.Went out and bought a bottle jack.Fiat one went to scrap man.
 
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Widge said:
Sorry if it sounds a stupid question, but why have you got the sophisticated technology to tell you what your tyre temperatures are, but don't know if you have a jack?
Maybe you need to reassess your priorities? 🙃
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Not sure that such points are in any way helpful. It is easy to criticise but this is a fellow motorhomer in trouble and more positive points would be of assistance rather than such 'questions'.
 
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Blimey..... never heard of the 'tyre temperature' where do you get that from ??? lot of people on here seem to understand so must be right..... could someone please educate me ???
 
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Unless you are lucky you will not find motor home tyres in stock unless it is a business that specialises in such. Garages in France do not often use local tyre suppliers as their prices are far higher than the online retailers.
If you cannot drive far on your tyre then consider using the following online services. They will be able to fit a mobile fitting service but that may delay things. They will list local garages who will take delivery and then fit for you.

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Excellent prices and we use them all the time. They give delivery times against each tyre.

CentralePneus.fr : Pneu pas cher | Pneus en ligne à prix discount

Achetez vos pneus pas chers chez CentralePneus ! Tous les pneus été, hiver, 4 saisons en ligne à prix discount, livraison gratuite, montage à proximité.
www.centralepneus.fr www.centralepneus.fr
Can sometimes beat Allopneu above on price but are a little slower to deliver in my experience.

A final point. There always seems to be anti Michelin bias on this site. Perhaps because of genuine poor experiences or maybe as an anti-French thing.
We use Michelin tyres whenever possible and have always been very impressed. We have one motor home and seven cars (don't ask why!). The motorhome tyres are four years old and we drive quickly. 30.000km and very little wear, certainly no 'cracking'.
Of the other cars we have one on Goodyears where we got a fantastic deal and one where the Michelin brand is not available in that size. All the others are Michelin shod with zero problems.
I absolutely swear by Michelin tyres but choose any quality brand and you will be fine.
Good luck and please let us know how you get on.
Paul

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Paul and Val said:
Not sure that such points are in any way helpful. It is easy to criticise but this is a fellow motorhomer in trouble and more positive points would be of assistance rather than such 'questions'.
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As i mentioned earlier, i had already done some research and provided hopefully several usefull replys before i made this comment!
 
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Right then all you helpful souls out there! Firstly I thank you all for your helpful advice and suggestions during the course of the day. I phoned the Euro assistance cover people (CBC Euro Breakdown cover, cost me £98 for 12 months cover) at 7.40am French time. They were on the case straight away and advised that as we were in a safe car park location they would send a local firm out and they’d be with us in max of an hour rather than more or less instantly. I was very very pleased! We were near Orleans last night, a French guy phoned me about 20 mins after initial contact and in Franglais said he’d be 20 more mins. 20 mins later an anguished call from the same guy saying he couldn’t find me. A local spoke to him on my phone and the mechanic guy was in Lille! 200+ miles away! Something must have got lost in translation! Anyway more of the Euro rescue office bods phoned me…… But hang on a minute! There is more to this tale! I discovered that I DID have a 5tonne bottle jack after all! Must have bought it around the start of covidbollocks and forgotten about it! Even found the locking wheel nut socket! Vehicle duly jacked up, old, totally knackered tyre/wheel whipped off and new one installed. The remaining 3 are Kuhmo and the spare is a Continental max PSI 69-4.8/4.9 bar. The recovery office bod, Auberon (what a great name!) rang me back and apologised for confusion and said he’d started the process from scratch, we discussed it all and after a 3way consultation between him, me and SHMBO we decided to trundle down the road and see how far we got, keeping an eye on the Tyrepal temperature and pressure. Auberon said to make sure to ring him if we hit further problems. Well I have watched that Tyrepal like a demented being ALL DAY!! It consistently showed the spare to be at 5.8-5.9 bar (85+psi) so miles over 69psi and hovering around 49-51degrees C. Very scary! We stopped fairly regularly to let everything cool down, the tyre on the same, rear, axle was at a consistent 5.4-5.5 bar and 40degrees C. The air temperature here in France was always around 38-39C. After Clermont Ferand it gets super hilly and the temperature and pressure of the tyre would climb as we went up hill and drop a little but not enough on the brief downslopes. When we got to the eventual summit it was blowing an absolute whoolley and the air temp started to drop to around 28, the tyre pressure and temp dropped too, 5.6 and around 44C….. and we are now sitting in a campsite in Millau enjoying a cheeky beer! Happy Days! Next and final stop Beziers tomorrow. Once again thanks for all your support and suggestions people! Where would we be without MHF??

Cheers!

Russ & Kathryn xx
 
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Glad that you got going ok, hope you have a good time in Béziers, that's more our neck if the woods, we are about an hour nw of there.

If you have never been, it worth doing a trip to carcassonne, its a reasonable day trip from Béziers.

Hope you have an uneventful last leg of your journey.

Dave
 
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Gus yes it was on the sunny side. Too difficult to swap it to the other side. However it’ll be on the shady side on the way home in about 2 weeks time. 👍

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Widge said:
I found this i think they do roadside assistance but whether they are open on a sunday, or how much they might charge i dont know
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Thanks Widge! See my later post for an up date. REALLY kind of you to take all that trouble to look. Pint owed I think?! 😉🍺👍
 
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Jamesh said:
Do you have ramps?

Drive up the ramp fit jack and let down tyre.

Remove ramp and fit tyre and release jack!
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Now that’s what I call lateral thinking!! Thanks man!
 
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Widge, Carcassone, we booked the Best Western for a night mid holiday before we left GB. Kathryn & I went to Beziers on our 2nd holiday together in 2016 (I think?) and had a fab time in Carc. We decided that if we ever went down to Bez again we’d stay for at least one night. Carc is fab and as a history buff I love all the medieval features, murder holes, logs used to lock doors, right handed staircases, poop shoots down the outside walls, (make sure you don’t get an arrow in your Arass!) portcullises (portcullii?) draw bridges, and fab restaurants.

Cheers! Russ n Kathryn. XX
 
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RustyRuss said:
Widge, Carcassone, we booked the Best Western for a night mid holiday before we left GB. Kathryn & I went to Beziers on our 2nd holiday together in 2016 (I think?) and had a fab time in Carc. We decided that if we ever went down to Bez again we’d stay for at least one night. Carc is fab and as a history buff I love all the medieval features, murder holes, logs used to lock doors, right handed staircases, poop shoots down the outside walls, (make sure you don’t get an arrow in your Arass!) portcullises (portcullii?) draw bridges, and fab restaurants.

Cheers! Russ n Kathryn. XX
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If you like indian, the taj Mahal, 8 boulevard de strasbourg, is pretty good, a young Bangladeshi guy is the owner who speaks good english, you can get him to do it as hot as you like.
He is not open on a monday, it is not far from the theatre in the center of town, you wont get the camper there, but public transport isnt too bad.

If you have any other queries or questions message me and i will try to help if i can.

Dave

Sorry i am talking about Béziers not carcassonne regarding the Indian.

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Dave/Widge that’s Friday night’s dinner sorted then!!

Cheers,

Russ
 
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