Tyre's again (sorry)

[Lenny HB]

Camper tyres may have a slight advantage with their stiffer sidewalls if you are going to leave the Motorhome sitting around unused for months, if you are going to do that not much point in buying a Motorhome.
I only have camping tyres because they came with the van new certainly won't get replaced with them.

 

[allsong]

Your replacement tyres, 225's, will throw your speedo out. 60 mph reading will actually be 65.4 mph. Hi to tyresize.com/calculator and plug in your sizes to compare.

 

[Lenny HB]

Your replacement tyres, 225's, will throw your speedo out. 60 mph reading will actually be 65.4 mph. Hi to tyresize.com/calculator and plug in your sizes to compare.

What you meant to say is it will make a Fiat speedo almost accurate.

 

[StephDeLux]

My MH was delivered with Continental 4 seasons, not specific for motorhomes. Needless to say, all is good.

Michelin tends to be insistent on recommending CP tyres for motorhomes, apparently because many customers let theirs vans idle the whole winter and that could damage regular tyres. Maybe, but for people who use the motorhome all year round, it is not a concern.

I have read so many good things on the Agilis Crossclimate, they look like my next summer tyres.

 

[StephDeLux]

True

Your replacement tyres, 225's, will throw your speedo out. 60 mph reading will actually be 65.4 mph. Hi to tyresize.com/calculator and plug in your sizes to compare.

On the continent, you´d need a COC modification and re-registering of the vehicle. Isn’t it the case in UK too? On the other hand maybe that size is already mentioned on your COC.

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[Hettie's Crew]

Your replacement tyres, 225's, will throw your speedo out. 60 mph reading will actually be 65.4 mph. Hi to tyresize.com/calculator and plug in your sizes to compare.

Going from 215/70 to 225/70 on our 15 inch wheels made the speedo more accurate. It read about 4-5mph slow prior to the change then about 3 mph slow, measured by sat nav.

 

[poppycamper]

My MH was delivered with Continental 4 seasons, not specific for motorhomes. Needless to say, all is good.

Michelin tends to be insistent on recommending CP tyres for motorhomes, apparently because many customers let theirs vans idle the whole winter and that could damage regular tyres. Maybe, but for people who use the motorhome all year round, it is not a concern.

I have read so many good things on the Agilis Crossclimate, they look like my next summer tyres.

Yep I got them.. no problems at all.. great on wet grass.
Yes officially a summer tyre with all season abilities as apposed to other manufactures who's all season tyres are a winter tyre with all season abilities.

 

[Garry - June]

Doing well !! .....2 pages of replies and not one mention from anyone yet of the good old "If you don't fit CP marked tyres your insurance will be invalid" nonsense.... ...oh blast Ive just done it..

 

[poppycamper]

Insurance....wot insurance....

 

[Lenny HB]

On the continent, you´d need a COC modification and re-registering of the vehicle. Isn’t it the case in UK too? On the other hand maybe that size is already mentioned on your COC.

The specialised engineers like SV Tech who issue uprated plates never mention it. I assume it is OK providing you don't fit lower spec tyres than those mentioned on the C of C.

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[Bobby-gg]

The specialised engineers like SV Tech who issue uprated plates never mention it. I assume it is OK providing you don't fit lower spec tyres than those mentioned on the C of C.

Yeah, in the UK we're free to change things, (well, at the moment we are) without having to register or anything.

Anyway, the deed is done, pushed the button on the tyres and the alloys, so I'll report back in a week or so when they've been fitted

Thanks for all the replies

Rob

 

[The Coops]

It stands to reason a 10 ply tyre will be stronger than an 8 ply tyre! and in the main a van tyre is designed for a heavier loading than a m/home tyre . Its all down to tyre rating , personal choice and suitability!

 

[dunnah01]

It stands to reason a 10 ply tyre will be stronger than an 8 ply tyre! and in the main a van tyre is designed for a heavier loading than a m/home tyre . Its all down to tyre rating , personal choice and suitability!

The USP of CP tyres is more sidewall plys for sustained maximum loading

 

[ManTheVan]

Fitted Agilis Cross Climates 215/70 r15 C 109 last week, having had 5-year-old Vanco CPs previously. Utterly staggered at the difference in ride quality. Perhaps the old tyres were getting...old...and stiffer, but they felt every stone in the road. The Michelins are just a dream to drive on. V quiet as well, despite their 73db rating.

 

[stevewagner]

Yeah, in the UK we're free to change things, (well, at the moment we are) without having to register or anything.

Anyway, the deed is done, pushed the button on the tyres and the alloys, so I'll report back in a week or so when they've been fitted

Thanks for all the replies

Rob

Can yo u tell me where you're getting the alloys from - thanks.

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[Bobby-gg]

Can yo u tell me where you're getting the alloys from - thanks.

The alloys are coming from these guys over in Ireland

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And can't pass comment until they've arrived

But these guys had a good range too, amongst others

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[Vipar]

I am tyred of this post

My tyres are dark grey ( PC ) and round they will do me

 

[Nexie]

Well I had four new tyres fitted to my van when I uprated to 3850kgs. The tyre house told me that normal van tyres would be fine and fitted a set of Rapids. They were fine till last year when we left Spain after the van hadn’t moved for five weeks and one of the rears began to degrade causing the van to vibrate badly. Apparently it was because most van tyres have some steel in the side walls and long periods standing cause the steel to distort which leads to the degrading. Camper tyres apparently don’t have steel in the side walls. This is how it was explained to me by the lovely french tyre fitter who relieved me of 280 Euro for a pair.

 

[movan]

Well I had four new tyres fitted to my van when I uprated to 3850kgs. The tyre house told me that normal van tyres would be fine and fitted a set of Rapids. They were fine till last year when we left Spain after the van hadn’t moved for five weeks and one of the rears began to degrade causing the van to vibrate badly. Apparently it was because most van tyres have some steel in the side walls and long periods standing cause the steel to distort which leads to the degrading. Camper tyres apparently don’t have steel in the side walls. This is how it was explained to me by the lovely french tyre fitter who relieved me of 280 Euro for a pair.

So could you avoid this by moving the van, say 6inches forward or back, once a week, please?

 

[Lenny HB]

The USP of CP tyres is more sidewall plys for sustained maximum loading

Then why do CP tyres have few plys than standard van tyres?

On another point its generally recommended you have a 10% load margin on tyres but Motorhome manufacturers tend to run them at the limit.

So could you avoid this by moving the van, say 6inches forward or back, once a week, please?

It wouldn't really help tyres need to be used to keep the rubber supple better to go for a 20 mile drive every few weeks. Also starting the engine to move the van a few inches is not good for the engine.

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[poppycamper]

Well I had four new tyres fitted to my van when I uprated to 3850kgs. The tyre house told me that normal van tyres would be fine and fitted a set of Rapids. They were fine till last year when we left Spain after the van hadn’t moved for five weeks and one of the rears began to degrade causing the van to vibrate badly. Apparently it was because most van tyres have some steel in the side walls and long periods standing cause the steel to distort which leads to the degrading. Camper tyres apparently don’t have steel in the side walls. This is how it was explained to me by the lovely french tyre fitter who relieved me of 280 Euro for a pair.

I would be more inclined to think you had a dodgy tyre (not unknown) fitted.
Any tyre should be able to sit for 5weeks without self destructing.
PS. What are Rapid tyres. Don't think I ever heard of them... they would not be budget or God forbid retreads by any chance.

 

[Nexie]

My story doesn’t end there. As I like all the tyres the same I got the garage I use for servicing etc to order two more Michelin Agilis to match the back ones. When they arrived I noticed that they were marked “ camping” and had a higher max pressure. So to stick to my ethos of all the same I ordered two more. So counting the four originals before my uprate my van has had 14 tyres on it and it’s only done 22k.

 

[Nexie]

PS got a nice pair of 225 x 70 x 15 Michelin Agilis van tyres done less than 1k miles sitting in the garage.

 

[Ian Bosman]

My MH was delivered with Continental 4 seasons, not specific for motorhomes. Needless to say, all is good.

Michelin tends to be insistent on recommending CP tyres for motorhomes, apparently because many customers let theirs vans idle the whole winter and that could damage regular tyres. Maybe, but for people who use the motorhome all year round, it is not a concern.

I have read so many good things on the Agilis Crossclimate, they look like my next summer tyres.

Took my van to have the balancing done on the rear wheels as it was shaking badly above 50mph. Bad News! Both have structurally failed possibly due to be being stood for too long despite me a couple of time rotating them by jacking up, turning through a right angle. So they have sourced two Pirelli Vanlife C rated tyre for fitting tomorrow. One tyre was on the wheel I bought as a spare with a C rated tyre and the other was bought two years ago, a Hankook C rated tyre. Having just had 4 Pirellis put on my Corsa (205/45 17 inch) earlier this week my credit cards is feeling the pinch

 

[Ian Bosman]

Unless things change so we use the van during the winter I will be investing in 4 axle stands rated at least 2 tonnes each to get the load off the tyres over the winter. I will need to also get a better trolley jack jack as mine is only rated at 1.5 tonnes and really struggles lifting the back end. Will sort these nearer the time.

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[Bobby-gg]

Unless things change so we use the van during the winter I will be investing in 4 axle stands rated at least 2 tonnes each to get the load off the tyres over the winter. I will need to also get a better trolley jack jack as mine is only rated at 1.5 tonnes and really struggles lifting the back end. Will sort these nearer the time.

Good security deterrent too

 

[BILL 875]

You need a 3 tonne jack from SGS trolley jacks spot on for the job made in uk if i remember correctly.

 

[Wellington]

At the prices you pay for the tyres, I'm surprised people don't nick the wheels!

Wellington (who is not at all bitter about having to spend the price of a week's holiday on tyres come Monday! )

 

[Ian Bosman]

Well, got the tyres fitted, just over £250 the pair of Pirelli Camper tyres fitted, not van tyres. The fitter said that they will wear out as the sidewalls are that much stronger than the van tyres and will be able to withstand long periods of standing. Anyway the plan is to jack it up when off the road.

 

[poppycamper]

Well, got the tyres fitted, just over £250 the pair of Pirelli Camper tyres fitted, not van tyres. The fitter said that they will wear out as the sidewalls are that much stronger than the van tyres and will be able to withstand long periods of standing. Anyway the plan is to jack it up when off the road.

Sorry I could not be bothered to jack van up every time I leave it. !!!!!

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