tyre inflator

[Fragle]

I remember some time ago some one asked what was the best tyre inflater to use on the motor home, ( cant find the thread) mine was supposed to be heavy duty but takes a long long time to inflate my tyres up to 65-70 psi any recomendations /suggestions? also the standard lead is not long enough to reach the rear of van so i extended it with a longer lead.?apart from the length of time the compressor works ok.

I bought a heavy duty from tool station when the last one packed up a Michelin

Ring Fast Flow Digital Tyre Inflator 12V​

by Ring AutomotiveProduct Code: 96258

so far excellent £56 Will easy do 80psi

 

[pandas]

It fits directly onto the high pressure valves. I have them fitted to my wheels, as an after service from Halfrauds and the pump fits straight onto them and puffs up the tyres nicely to 80psi/5.5bar.

This package is about the same as I paid for just the pump, which is very good. This is the smaller battery, but will keep the tyres at pressure no problem.

Amazon.co.uk

Just to confirm the valve is bigger than a standard car tyre valve.

 

[PP Bear]

Just to confirm the valve is bigger than a standard car tyre valve.

Hmmmm, in which case I’m sorry as I don’t know the answer to that then. It comes with adaptors but that’s usually for puffing up airbeds, balls and dolls etc, so I can’t answer that. Didn’t know they made a bigger valve, but live and learn. Don’t suppose you have a picture do you

 

[pandas]

For an A class 4.5 ton the valves are bigger than a standard car tyre. But thank you anyhow.

 

[ian27]

I just bought this Amazon Basics one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasi...-Battery-Carrying/dp/B074DD3NS5/?tag=mhf04-21 very impressed so far for the price. The fact it goes direct to battery is a good thing in my book - means its higher powered. pulls about 20 amps / 250watts, you can tell its completely unstressed at 80psi. whereas my previous trusty maplin single cylinder one was working really hard by that point.

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[tacr2man]

For an A class 4.5 ton the valves are bigger than a standard car tyre. But thank you anyhow.

Do you have a picture as I have never seen a tyre valve that does not terminate in other than the standard schrader end ?

 

[Grummyb]

I'm pretty sure all tyre valves are the same I've oy got 1 tyre inflator and it does cars and lorry tyres

 

[pappajohn]

Do you have a picture as I have never seen a tyre valve that does not terminate in other than the standard schrader end ?

They are the same diameter shrader end.
The difference is.....
#1 on HP the brass core goes all the way along the length of the valve.....on a regular valve its around ½ to ⅔.
#2 on HP the rubber part inside the tyre is far larger than a regular valve so needs a far higher pressure to blow it out and as the core passes right through its far more rigid and uncompressable than a regular valve.
Both fit in a standard 19mm wheel hole.
A standard pump will fit both.

 

[Ditcha]

I just bought this Amazon Basics one : https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasi...-Battery-Carrying/dp/B074DD3NS5/?tag=mhf04-21 very impressed so far for the price. The fact it goes direct to battery is a good thing in my book - means its higher powered. pulls about 20 amps / 250watts, you can tell its completely unstressed at 80psi. whereas my previous trusty maplin single cylinder one was working really hard by that point.

Cheers just bought one good reviews

 

[kelv]

I have a ring type tyre inflated only used once for sale going to put it up for sale on adds later

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[KiwiKev]

Milwaukee M18 Tyre inflator, no trailing leads all around, also use around the house, bike tyre etc, powerful. If you already have M18 !8V Milwaukee gear and batteries, just get the bare unit. As well as the Milwaukee tyre inflator in the van, I also have the Drill and a Milwaukee to Dyson Vac battery adapter, all running off the same battery.

 

[ian27]

Milwaukee M18 Tyre inflator, no trailing leads all around, also use around the house, bike tyre etc, powerful. If you already have M18 !8V Milwaukee gear and batteries, just get the bare unit. As well as the Milwaukee tyre inflator in the van, I also have the Drill and a Milwaukee to Dyson Vac battery adapter, all running off the same battery.

similar thing: I already have the ryobi batteries and all the usual tools, and their cordless inflator. It will pump up the motorhome tyres , its perfectly capable of the higher pressure, but its not anywhere near as fast as the amazon basics one I just bought, and it feels pretty warm when finished. you also have to sit there with your finger on the trigger. Given how wonderfully useful and convenient that cordless inflator is to me for my bikes, I don't want to risk burning it out doing the slog of high volume high pressure motorhome tyres, hence the dedicated wired one for the MH.

 

[SpeedyDux]

similar thing: I already have the ryobi batteries and all the usual tools, and their cordless inflator. It will pump up the motorhome tyres , its perfectly capable of the higher pressure, but its not anywhere near as fast as the amazon basics one I just bought, and it feels pretty warm when finished. you also have to sit there with your finger on the trigger. Given how wonderfully useful and convenient that cordless inflator is to me for my bikes, I don't want to risk burning it out doing the slog of high volume high pressure motorhome tyres, hence the dedicated wired one for the MH.​

My experience is that heat build-up will destroy any tyre inflater, cordless or 12v crocodile clip ones. My original Halfords compressor literally blew itself to bits.

I follow the instruction that says don't run it continuously for more than 2 minutes, and give it time to cool down between putting air into each MH tyre.

 

[ian27]

My experience is that heat build-up will destroy any tyre inflater, cordless or 12v crocodile clip ones. My original Halfords compressor literally blew itself to bits.

I follow the instruction that says don't run it continuously for more than 2 minutes, and give it time to cool down between putting air into each MH tyre.

true, if you overload anything it will die. but my point is that if you are running a heavy duty compressor at half load, it's much less likely to burn out than a medium duty compressor at 90% load.

 

[KiwiKev]

There are tyre inflators, and there are tyre inflators. I have found the Milwaukee M18 tyre inflator has easily handled anything thrown at it so far, with the 8Ah battery. Read the many reviews of it out there, offroading boondocking SUV owners in the US use them on their huge SUV tyres.

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[SpeedyDux]

true, if you overload anything it will die. but my point is that if you are running a heavy duty compressor at half load, it's much less likely to burn out than a medium duty compressor at 90% load.

The gas temperature when you compress air is the same in all cases, regardless of heavy duty load capacity, because gas pressure and temperature are directly proportional. The advantage of a bigger compressor body with a greater fin area is that it will dissipate heat energy more effectively, so it can run safely for longer than a smaller compressor body at the same pressure. Obviously a bigger compressor body can compress a bigger volume of air so it inflates tyres quicker. So that's 2 inherent advantages.

On the other hand it will draw a bigger current at 12v especially on start-up, so this heavy duty type compressor can't run off a dashboard 12v socket because it blows the fuse that is generally 10 amp or sometimes 15 amp. Hence crocodile clips to the starter battery are needed.

I am very happy with my Worx cordless inflater.

 

[ian27]

There are tyre inflators, and there are tyre inflators. I have found the Milwaukee M18 tyre inflator has easily handled anything thrown at it so far, with the 8Ah battery. Read the many reviews of it out there.

I am very happy with my Worx cordless inflater.

fair enough... not dissing yours, just saying that in my case I prefer to keep the smaller more convenient cordless one that I already own for the lighter more frequent jobs, don't want to risk cooking it on the MH tyres. And maybe the milwaukee / worxs ones are better than the ryobi one, who knows!

On the other hand it will draw a bigger current at 12v especially on start-up, so this heavy duty type compressor can't run off a dashboard 12v socket because it blows the fuse that is generally 10 amp or sometimes 15 amp. Hence crocodile clips to the starter battery are needed.

which in my book is a good thing: shows its got a motor big enough for the heavier job. I've owned several of the 12v cigarette socket 10amp ones, none of them in my experience up to motorhome tyres but fine for cars.

 

[ian27]

slight divergence but I figure people on this thread might know: I want to put a cordless combination jump-start and inflator box in my sons learn-to-drive car, for emergency use . A old 1 litre petrol hatchback so it doesn't need a lot of ooomph and doesn't want to be too big either (fit in glove box ideally), nor too expensive (not NOCO money - don't want it to be worth more than the car!). If it has a torch / flasher to warn traffic so much the better. There's loads out there, any recommendations?

 

[Ditcha]

I use a cheapo one of these for topping off the Moho tyres, scooter tyres and bike tyres works great but would take a age to fill a couple of tyres hence buying it the Amazon one for a proper job.

Amazon.co.uk

 

[SpeedyDux]

slight divergence but I figure people on this thread might know: I want to put a cordless combination jump-start and inflator box in my sons learn-to-drive car, for emergency use . A old 1 litre petrol hatchback so it doesn't need a lot of ooomph and doesn't want to be too big either (fit in glove box ideally), nor too expensive (not NOCO money - don't want it to be worth more than the car!). If it has a torch / flasher to warn traffic so much the better. There's loads out there, any recommendations?

What's wrong with a traditional footpump? Inexpensive and some have a built-in pressure gauge. No battery to go flat.

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[Ditcha]

What's wrong with a traditional footpump? Inexpensive and some have a built-in pressure gauge. No battery to go flat.

To much hard work that

 

[Tigger390]

I am currently using a J F Egwo jump pack and compressor as my tyre inflater, it does seem to struggle with the MoHo tyres if they need a significant amount of air but is ok for tyre checks and top ups. I am now looking at this Amazon Basics Tyre inflater but just wonder how people get on with battery clamps and a 5m lead. I have a Fiat Ducato based Burstner and the vehicle battery is under the floor and leisure battery under the drivers seat. I could change the clips to a 12v socket but then I would almost certainly be blowing fuses and extending the lead to reach the rear of the van would be easy. How do people connect the the battery, do you use the jump terminals under the bonnet?
Thanks
Nigel

 

[SpeedyDux]

I am currently using a J F Egwo jump pack and compressor as my tyre inflater, it does seem to struggle with the MoHo tyres if they need a significant amount of air but is ok for tyre checks and top ups. I am now looking at this Amazon Basics Tyre inflater but just wonder how people get on with battery clamps and a 5m lead. I have a Fiat Ducato based Burstner and the vehicle battery is under the floor and leisure battery under the drivers seat. I could change the clips to a 12v socket but then I would almost certainly be blowing fuses and extending the lead to reach the rear of the van would be easy. How do people connect the the battery, do you use the jump terminals under the bonnet?
Thanks
Nigel

The Ducato Owner's Manual tells you where to connect jump leads. You need to lift a small plastic cover for one of the clips.

I used to use the Ring RAC 900 but it takes much longer to use than a cordless inflater. It also takes up quite a lot of locker storage space.

 

[Ditcha]

I am currently using a J F Egwo jump pack and compressor as my tyre inflater, it does seem to struggle with the MoHo tyres if they need a significant amount of air but is ok for tyre checks and top ups. I am now looking at this Amazon Basics Tyre inflater but just wonder how people get on with battery clamps and a 5m lead. I have a Fiat Ducato based Burstner and the vehicle battery is under the floor and leisure battery under the drivers seat. I could change the clips to a 12v socket but then I would almost certainly be blowing fuses and extending the lead to reach the rear of the van would be easy. How do people connect the the battery, do you use the jump terminals under the bonnet?
Thanks
Nigel

Yeah just use the connections under the bonnet

 

[Tigger390]

Yeah just use the connections under the bonnet

Thanks, I thought so. Might invest in one of these then.

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[ian27]

What's wrong with a traditional footpump? Inexpensive and some have a built-in pressure gauge. No battery to go flat.

doesn't do a jump start. that type of combo device is was what I was asking about. In my use-case, does NOT need to pump moho tyres only small car ones.

 

[ian27]

Yeah just use the connections under the bonnet

works equally well off the leisure battery (and I'd argue better as no risk of flattening the starter).
I've got pos and neg terminal busbar blocks at the back of the underseat space that I can reach by just taking the plastic grille off, then put the croc clips on those, run the cable out through the door or a window. might run dedicated new cables for this to have 30amp capable terminals accessible more easily from outside, but that will do for now.

 

[KiwiKev]

Traditional foot pumps hmm. I'm afraid I am totally sold on battery/electric inflators. Along with the Milwaukee M18 tyre inflator in the van, I have a tiny 'Cycplus AS2 Pro Max' bicycle tyre inflator that I take out on bike rides. Had 3 punctures in one day on our tandem, mountain bike size tyres, reinflate, no stress. Apparently able to cope with motorbike tyres.

Connect inflator, check existing tyre pressure, set the pressure you want, push the start button, do something else, inflator turns off automatically when it reaches target, simples.

 

[Ditcha]

works equally well off the leisure battery (and I'd argue better as no risk of flattening the starter).
I've got pos and neg terminal busbar blocks at the back of the underseat space that I can reach by just taking the plastic grille off, then put the croc clips on those, run the cable out through the door or a window. might run dedicated new cables for this to have 30amp capable terminals accessible more easily from outside, but that will do for now.

Both our leisure and starter batteries are hidden away so pain to connect too, I would just run the engine if needed, the small rechargeable one I have will be used most of the time.

 

[Tigger390]

works equally well off the leisure battery (and I'd argue better as no risk of flattening the starter).
I've got pos and neg terminal busbar blocks at the back of the underseat space that I can reach by just taking the plastic grille off, then put the croc clips on those, run the cable out through the door or a window. might run dedicated new cables for this to have 30amp capable terminals accessible more easily from outside, but that will do for now.

Thanks, I'll have a look at mine.

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