Tyre advice please.

daventess

daventess

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Agilis tyres are made for MHs so should be good. Why not phone them up and ask👍 Any 8 ply tires will be ok but yet again ask the fitting company
 
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Terry said:
Agilis tyres are made for MHs so should be good. Why not phone them up and ask👍 Any 8 ply tires will be ok but yet again ask the fitting company
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I did in fact just ring them, and they confirmed the tyres were suitable (quite a few to choose from actually).

So, now just down to WHICH ones I should buy - I really wish there was no choice :)
 
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daventess said:
I did in fact just ring them, and they confirmed the tyres were suitable (quite a few to choose from actually).

So, now just down to WHICH ones I should buy - I really wish there was no choice :)
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Just one comment to make.... these tyres are summer tyres...
Why not go for Agilis Cross Climate or Agilis Camping? Both are van tyres and therefore good for moho but both these tyres are M/S but more importantly akso have 3peak mountain symbol which IMV is better than summer tyres ( unless you are someone who tucks your moho up in bed when winter approaches 🤣)
 
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If you go abroad in Spring, winter or autumn you might find the weather dictates that you need snowflake/mountain peak tyres as well as the law in Alpine areas so worth considering. Worth covering them to protect them from direct sunlight though to stop them hardening and cracking prematurely.

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daventess said:
Is this tyre any good for an A class (4.4t) motorhome?


I'm trying to get a delivery fitter but my existing tyres show "cp" on them which I don't think these do, so I don't know ....

Are all tyres (that are the right size) suitable for motorhomes?
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I fitted Nexen Roadian CT8 tyres to my last van, same size and rating that you are looking at are £92 a corner at Camskill tyres. Several other Funsters highly recommend them too.
 
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bigtree said:
I fitted Nexen Roadian CT8 tyres to my last van, same size and rating that you are looking at are £92 a corner at Camskill tyres. Several other Funsters highly recommend them too.
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I was hopeful until I see they don’t fit them.
 
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poppycamper said:
unless you are someone who tucks your moho up in bed when winter approaches
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Nah, we've known nothing but subzero camping so far (as our gas bottle usage will attest to).

We will be going to cold places at some point (such as Scotland :) , but for the immediate future we are planning the hotter climes of Europe.
 
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bigtree said:
Find a fitter near you. :cool:
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I was looking at these £476 fitted local.
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Had my Michelin Agilis on for 10 years now and still performing really well. They’re 10 years old this month and have been brilliant in all aspects, less getting stuck on wet grass.

I inspect them regularly and no signs of cracking, deformation or uneven tread wear and taken the advice from Michelin who say around the 10 years mark, but if they’re inspected and in good order, there’s no need to change them for the sake of it.

These will be my next tyres on exchange 👍🏻

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PP Bear said:
Had my Michelin Agilis on for 10 years now and still performing really well. They’re 10 years old this month and have been brilliant in all aspects, less getting stuck on wet grass.

I inspect them regularly and no signs of cracking, deformation or uneven tread wear and taken the advice from Michelin who say around the 10 years mark, but if they’re inspected and in good order, there’s no need to change them for the sake of it.

These will be my next tyres on exchange 👍🏻

www.michelin.co.uk

MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE CAMPING - Camper - All season tyres tyre | MICHELIN GB

MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE CAMPING tyres - information & user reviews. See if it fits your car (browse by size or by vehicle). Get yours today at the nearest tyre dealer.
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Mine are 7 years old now with 12000 miles on so plenty of tread. Van is 6 years old, had it 10 months.

But will be changing to these too before driving to Spain in December.

Biggest decision though is whether to stick with the 215/70/15 or change to 225/70/15 which incidentally are slightly cheaper.
 
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BikerGraham said:
Mine are 7 years old now with 12000 miles on so plenty of tread. Van is 6 years old, had it 10 months.

But will be changing to these too before driving to Spain in December.

Biggest decision though is whether to stick with the 215/70/15 or change to 225/70/15 which incidentally are slightly cheaper.
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Mine are the 225/70/16 and I’ll go like for like for replacements 👍🏻
 
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BikerGraham said:
Biggest decision though is whether to stick with the 215/70/15 or change to 225/70/15 which incidentally are slightly cheaper.
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The only thing to do is to contact your insurance company in writing (email is fine) and get confirmation that they will accept the bigger width being fitted. There is a danger that if you don't get authorisation first that in the event of an accident that they would refuse cover.
I would certainly go for the bigger size if they agree.
 
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PP Bear said:
Had my Michelin Agilis on for 10 years now and still performing really well. They’re 10 years old this month and have been brilliant in all aspects, less getting stuck on wet grass.

I inspect them regularly and no signs of cracking, deformation or uneven tread wear and taken the advice from Michelin who say around the 10 years mark, but if they’re inspected and in good order, there’s no need to change them for the sake of it.

These will be my next tyres on exchange 👍🏻

www.michelin.co.uk

MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE CAMPING - Camper - All season tyres tyre | MICHELIN GB

MICHELIN CROSSCLIMATE CAMPING tyres - information & user reviews. See if it fits your car (browse by size or by vehicle). Get yours today at the nearest tyre dealer.
www.michelin.co.uk www.michelin.co.uk
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That’s what I’ve fitted max 76psi 3 peaks symbol 118 load rating and a ten year life. These are also quieter than Michelin Aguilas cp tyres.

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My van came with tyres load rated at 116, as it was originally max. 3.5T. It's been rerated to 4.4T now, so is the 116 still ok, given that they are for up to 1250kg?

If I understand correctly, that load is for each tyre, making 4.8T load possible.

edit - ah, its for the axle, so both tyre loads must be greater than the axle rating.
 
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daventess said:
My van came with tyres load rated at 116, as it was originally max. 3.5T. It's been rerated to 4.4T now, so is the 116 still ok, given that they are for up to 1250kg?

If I understand correctly, that load is for each tyre, making 4.8T load possible.

edit - ah, its for the axle, so both tyre loads must be greater than the axle rating.
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No you can only go to 4500kg
 
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daventess said:
My van came with tyres load rated at 116, as it was originally max. 3.5T. It's been rerated to 4.4T now, so is the 116 still ok, given that they are for up to 1250kg?

If I understand correctly, that load is for each tyre, making 4.8T load possible.

edit - ah, its for the axle, so both tyre loads must be greater than the axle rating.
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Yes.
 
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daventess said:
My van came with tyres load rated at 116, as it was originally max. 3.5T. It's been rerated to 4.4T now, so is the 116 still ok, given that they are for up to 1250kg?

If I understand correctly, that load is for each tyre, making 4.8T load possible.

edit - ah, its for the axle, so both tyre loads must be greater than the axle rating.
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Well the first question is, have you informed and obtained your Insurance company is ok with the 4.4T and that you are covered? I assume that you have.
Then you need to get their approval for the tyres and what load they will accept.
There is no problem ever with insurance UNTIL you have an accident. You might well get away with it. It depends on the Inspector and the Company but if you have uprated without telling them or the tyres are not exactly what should be on then they will refuse cover.
If you run into the back of a car and cause somebody serious whiplash you could end up losing your home and everything else that you have. I am not being alarmist but Insurance companies will not pay out unless they have to.

I will give an example. The case I am going to quote is about 20 years ago but I remember it well.
A guy hired a car for the weekend. He told the insurance company that he had a clean licence.
He ran into a car and wrote off the other vehicle and caused serious but repairable damage to the hire vehicle.
When he claimed the Insurance people examined his licence and he had a two year old conviction for speeding and three points.
They refused all cover so he took the Insurance company to Court.
The insurance company admitted that as there was only three points and one offence that they would not have raised the tariff to hire the car, it would have been the same price exactly.
Despite the above the Insurance company won the case and the guy was left with not only the cost of repair of the two vehicles but also the other drivers injuries.
He had to sell his house in order to pay.

As I say, you may never have an accident and if you do have a claim, you may 'get away with it'. But if not.............
The moral of the story is always get anything in writing from yoot insurance. NEVER rely on a conversation.
Happy motoring.
Paulus
 
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Paul and Val said:
Well the first question is, have you informed and obtained your Insurance company is ok with the 4.4T and that you are covered?
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Hi - yes, we bought it like that and the insurance company were fine with it.

Also, the factory fitted 116s are fine for the max. rear axle weight of 2.5T (they are 1250 each), though I'll probably get 118s when I replace those. Front axle weight is 2.1T.

Interesting that the max. load is 4.4T yet the two axle weights total 4.6T ...

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Ended up ordering 2x MICHELIN AGILIS CROSSCLIMATE

probably paid way too much, but until I get a little more knowledgable I thought I'd play it relatively safely for my first trip to France ...
 
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By Coincidence I changed my 2 Fronts TODAY on Autotrail Cheyenne 696SE.
I also noted that no one mentioned the 'CP' letter on the tyre. CP is especially for Motorhomes. Apparently, insurance may become invalid if you don't have a CP rated tyre....Hmmmm (not sure about that!).
My Tyres are Continental 225/75 R 16 CP £400 fitted for the 2 fronts.
 
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Calamaster said:
By Coincidence I changed my 2 Fronts TODAY on Autotrail Cheyenne 696SE.
I also noted that no one mentioned the 'CP' letter on the tyre. CP is especially for Motorhomes. Apparently, insurance may become invalid if you don't have a CP rated tyre....Hmmmm (not sure about that!).
My Tyres are Continental 225/75 R 16 CP £400 fitted for the 2 fronts.
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I just rang Comfort insurance to check, and they said as long as the tyres are road legal they're fine. By inference I would assume road legal to include the correct size and load rating, so I'm OK.
 
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